How to play online poker according to a software algorithm - iPoker, Red Star Poker room

Colleagues, language difficulties cause some problems of understanding the video.

I will try to comment shortly and the most easy way for players of any level:

Ipoker's software constantly alternates "clean" and "trapped" strong preflop hands.

It's not important what game type you play - cashe, tournaments, headsup games - after two/three 70% all ins you got dealt premium hand/top pair flopped (especially if you "checked" in position of a big blind)/pocket top pair/several Aces High in a row - this hand should be folded.

Software does it to equalize a positive player's efficiency with other players on the table. So that, the game will last long enough to convert players deposites into a room's commission. This is especially actual for cashe games.

Exactly cause of this system of hands dealing it appears especially difficult to overplay a player, who goes allin on weak hands. In the next game cones right after this move of a weak or "having fun" player he gets the best on the table hand. And this game cones should be "skipped" by other players.

The most easy example - heads up game.

After an unprofitable call of the opponent on a very weak hand, right in the next headsup game against this opponent iPoker's software generates a hand like - "Pocket 99 vs pocket QQ for your opponent".

You can check this pretty fast, 15-30 minutes of playing any game type is enough.

In the second half of the video I show what Red Star's software does on a postflop in case all the cards are opened and we just "check" until a showdown to watch how hands are dealt. I demonstrate that the software's behaviour is not only submits to a contrete logic (the bigger my stack is the more often my opponent hits the flop), but - being an expert level professional in the sphere of stat. analysis - I show that it's possible in a random game only once in 8, 5 trillion games.

This is how i can explain you the most easy way. I can't know, if we will manage to forbid iPoker gaming officially, but you are notified about the fraud starting from this moment.

I'm pretty sure that's not true about iPoker. I've been playing on iPoker for many years and can't confirm that at all.
If what you're saying were true, then big win rates wouldn't be possible.

Besides, it would be so obvious and easy to uncover that there would have been statistical proof via a large database a long time ago. But there wasn't.

Your anecdotal evidence is not proof.

You can check this pretty fast, 15-30 minutes of playing any game type is enough.

If this statement was true, you would think this would have been uncovered long time ago

Originally posted by Paxis
I'm pretty sure that's not true about iPoker. I've been playing on iPoker for many years and can't confirm that at all.
If what you're saying were true, then big win rates wouldn't be possible.

Besides, it would be so obvious and easy to uncover that there would have been statistical proof via a large database a long time ago. But there wasn't.

Your anecdotal evidence is not proof.

I wouldn't say it was obvious to uncover. Pretty hard task.
Thank you for an opinion.

Do you mean that 0,0000000035% chances for the software behavior is too high probability to consider? It happens once in 8,5 trillion hands approximately. Too often?

Originally posted by Erakko

You can check this pretty fast, 15-30 minutes of playing any game type is enough.

If this statement was true, you would think this would have been uncovered long time ago

Do you mean you checked that and it didn't work for you?
You play a highly profitable allin, or win a huge pot and the next hands you keep winning same often as usual, nothing changes?

Guys, i mean, i can predict my hands best/or not the best on the table without watching my opponents decisions and that is known for hundreds of players on Red Star Poker because i have shown every hand after each game cone for 1 year ) Many people have already known what i'm sharing with the society now.

If it so clearly obious that client is rigged, how come you are the only one who has figured this out?

Why is it possible to generate high win rates when the rigged hand distributor should prevent this?

Well that is a new twist on the age-old "IT'S RIGGED!!!" post

If you have actual evidence involving reproducible data, report it to the authorities.
If not, get such data.

Hey guys!
I have the ultimate proof, that my soil is rigged! It shifts the odds towards the peppers!!! While the white cauliflower won´t germinate, I have now plenty of peppers and chilis! Should I report this to the authorities?`:f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly:

Guys, look, I don't argue with anyone's position.
This is easy:
1. "Man, I played in iPoker, and after 2-3 profitable allins 70%+ the game goes the same way, as it's goes before winning it. I don't see that unprofitable situations come more often after these allins."
2. "I got your point. Yes, it looks like we can predict the next premium hand to be dominated by other players if we just played several profitable hands - preflop/postflop."

If you didn't check, or you didn't get my point at all. You didn't read a description of the algorithm. You didn't watch the video. No need to discuss "mate, i don't understand your point but you are wrong".
I don't ask you to watch my video, i just inform you. It's your right to ignore this!

Regarding high winrates. I answer you my point of view, i can't prove this statistically, but in my opinion, regular players, who play several tables simultaneously generate a high activity in a poker room and a casino can't "refuse" to allow them winning. Why some players got higher winning rates then others - I don't know this.

Why didn't you answer: do you mean that 0,0000000035% chances for the software behavior is too high probability to consider? It happens once in 8,5 trillion hands approximately. Too often?

You say that my evidence is not convincing. Why? Distance+chances are too low (1to100 000 000 obvservations)? - you know, you can't comment distance without discussing the case specified. What can you say about clear opponent's flop hitting dependence on my stack size?

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Well that is a new twist on the age-old "IT'S RIGGED!!!" post

If you have actual evidence involving reproducible data, report it to the authorities.
If not, get such data.

Well, totally agree with you. I'm not sure, many guys are actually ready for this information.
I informed players, and I move forward, you know, it's more about a time waste arguing about this. I can answer questions of people. But proving this is not necessary. The video is more then enough. I have already spent pretty much time to prepare it

Yeah, i have sent this to gambling supervision authorities of 10 countries. To let them know the situation. But, again. I don't ask anyone anything. It is not my problem, you know. I'm not even aiming to earn money online.

Originally posted by Primrose6789
Hey guys!
I have the ultimate proof, that my soil is rigged! It shifts the odds towards the peppers!!! While the white cauliflower won´t germinate, I have now plenty of peppers and chilis! Should I report this to the authorities?`:f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly:

I can't skip this one )))
Could you provide the evidence? I got an experience in growing vegetables, can be actual for me too.
Thank you!

If everything was true what you said, there is still the issue of tiny sample size, 454 played flops.

Also you seem to miss that players play weak and strong hands differently, and they play differently with big stacks compared to short stacks. And this research looks like you got tilted and are try to blame the poker client for your losses, creating hypothesis why that happens and then trying to find evidence for it, not seeing the woods from the trees.

Originally posted by Erakko
If everything was true what you said, there is still the issue of tiny sample size, 454 played flops.

I see, you talk about a statistical part of the video.
Yes, i got you, you mean, that 454 sample size is a too short distance.

Is it important, that the behavior of the software we observe on this 454 flops distance happens in a random game only once in 8,5 trillion flops in average? Or it shouldn't be considered, since the distance is too small?

Originally posted by Erakko
Also you seem to miss that players play weak and strong hands differently, and they play differently with big stacks compared to short stacks. And this research looks like you got tilted and are try to blame the poker client for your losses, creating hypothesis why that happens and then trying to find evidence for it, not seeing the woods from the trees.

Well, look. The first part of the video is about "illustrating" how it works. Because if i just type a text "guys, you need to fold here and call there" - it will be too hard to understand.

So, i had to open a hand replayer and comment some of my games. This is just an exhibition games where we can see some of opponents cards. I just illustrate the logic there, Erakko.

If you are an experienced player - yes, you don't need to watch the first part of the video. It's enough to say that the software alternates "clean" and "trapped" push-fold hands. So, your point - there is not any logic in "folding a strong hand after winning of a good pot"?

(You have already said, that you played in iPoker, and there are no such kind of any dependencies in card dealing.
I got you actually. I just mean, that it's not a question of "gameplay" or "tilt". I just fold or push hands in some order. And i played like that thousands of tournaments, to check the software logic, and to check if i "read" the software the right way.)

Originally posted by Johnmir

Originally posted by Primrose6789
Hey guys!
I have the ultimate proof, that my soil is rigged! It shifts the odds towards the peppers!!! While the white cauliflower won´t germinate, I have now plenty of peppers and chilis! Should I report this to the authorities?`:f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly:

I can't skip this one )))
Could you provide the evidence? I got an experience in growing vegetables, can be actual for me too.
Thank you!

How about this?

..and even more peppers

Just two cauliflowers Romanesco and no cauliflower "Snowball" :f_cry::f_cry::f_cry::f_cry::f_cry:

The soil is rigged!! Or the growth lamps are rigged!!! :f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly:

Originally posted by Primrose6789

Originally posted by Johnmir

Originally posted by Primrose6789
Hey guys!
I have the ultimate proof, that my soil is rigged! It shifts the odds towards the peppers!!! While the white cauliflower won´t germinate, I have now plenty of peppers and chilis! Should I report this to the authorities?`:f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly:

I can't skip this one )))
Could you provide the evidence? I got an experience in growing vegetables, can be actual for me too.
Thank you!

How about this?

..and even more peppers

Just two cauliflowers Romanesco and no cauliflower "Snowball" :f_cry::f_cry::f_cry::f_cry::f_cry:

The soil is rigged!! Or the growth lamps are rigged!!! :f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly::f_ugly:

In fact, really awesome, good job ♠_thumbsup:

They don't look any rigged, Rose! The evidence shows they do feel pretty comfortable!
Time to check this is coming though... Spring is close enough ))

Guys, I don't think it's really valuable, since we talk about statistics.

But it took some time to realize why it's not that obvious for many players.
Yes, the game looks random, and after several profitable all-ins it's normal to get an unprofitable all-in. The problem is that it can be 90%+ predicted that the hand is "trapped".
You start MTT with 2-3 profitable all-ins - you fold the first premium hand dealt on a buble, and on a final table (not exactly like that, but this is the logic).

I described it more detailed in the file.
But yes, if you are a regular player, you win due to a huge activity in the room. You do not need that. You will be against any information that says "the game is not random".
And of course you will ignore questions like "is it really important that i see something that happens once in 8,5 trillion hands? Or only the distance counts?". In case Playtech PLC CEO provide an official statement on TV "the game is not random", players who earn money will say "The speech was fake, the video is not true!".

That is why, arguing is simply senseless. The only way is to make the organization (iPoker, Playtech) illegal.