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[Closed] How to play turn VS compulsive C/raisers

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Confeti
Joined: 02.04.2008

Hi again!, and thanks for the lastest evaluations :)

There's a lot of this type, with a high C/R turn.

This guy have 53% C/R turn :O

On the one hand I have to protect vs FD, Qx, Kx, etc. But on the other hand I don't know if I can do a calldown or not. In this situation I call turn for odds & outs .

Can play check behind, call any river? As my equity is below the media (42%), will it be a good option?

CB river: 75%

Regards!.-

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;MP3$131,00:250/48 /37 /2,0/47 /56 /31 /43 ;Hero$104,37:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♦, K♦
MP3 raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7,50 SB) 9♠, 6♥, J♠ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4,75 BB) T♣ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

River: (8,75 BB) 3♠ (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9,75 BB


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Confeti
Joined: 02.04.2008

2) This other guy have FCB turn: 33%, and C/R turn: 30%.

As I don't have to protect, is it ok CBehind to call any river in this tiny pot?

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$29,75:584/21 /17 /2,3/30 /30 /67 /53 ;Hero$229,88:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♥, 8♠
2 folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4,50 SB) 3♣, 3♥, 6♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3,25 BB) 4♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3,25 BB) 6♠ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 5,25 BB


OlivierLu
Joined: 17.11.2007

hand 1 is a call. This guy is not serious enough. He will c/r turn with made hands, small pocket pairs, gutshot, flush draws, OESD.
The river is obviously not the best card for a call but regarding pot odds, I do call.

hand 2 is a turn bet. In a BB defense situation, such an A-high is still a favorite on the turn. I would bet to chase out potential 6-outers then take a free showdown if I wish.


Hi Confeti.

1) I check this behind on the turn. You don't want to get check/raised here and he will do it very often.
The turncard has hit him very often as well so you aren't that often ahead anymore as well.

Board: 9s 6h Js Tc 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 18.305% 16.95% 01.36% 50 4.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 81.695% 80.34% 01.36% 237 4.00 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, A5o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

If he's betting the river his his whole range you can make a crying call after your check behind.

As played I fold the river. don' think that he would play enough worse hands that way to justify a rivercall.

2) I like a bet for free showdown here more. If he check/raised a lot in your session a check behind with a rivercall is no bad either to stay out of expensive ugly spots.


Confeti
Joined: 02.04.2008

Thanks for your replys.

In the hand 2) how to react against a C/R on the turn?

He will fold all his worse hand and C/R a 5 may be, a bluff or a made hand (with made hands he plays C/C C/R a lot), but I can induce a bluff on the river with these worse hands.

Do you really think that B for free SD have more value that check behind call any river?

Besides, I don't want to enlarge the pot with my hand with SD

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows dos pares, seises y treses (Ah 8s)
BB shows dos pares, seises y treses (Kc 8c)

Hero wins with dos pares, seises y treses (Ah 8s)


He has indeed a very low wts so a check behind becomes better but I think he could call a lot overcards on this flop which have 6 outs against you and he may fold even a bad A-high which may split if ou check behind and the river is a 6 or 4.

It's close and both it probably totally fine here.