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[Closed] sh 2/4 $: 5 hands vs. unkown

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ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

1) would you downcall in this case vs. unkown ?

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (4 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4♦, 4♥
2 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 5♠, J♠, 3♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB.

2) cap flop vs. unkown ?
PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (4 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BU with K♣, 7♦
1 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) K♦, T♦, J♦ (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) Q♠ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 4♣ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB.

3) would you try this move vs. unkown ?
PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (5 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is SB with T♦, A♠
3 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 3♦, 3♣, Q♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) 7♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.00 BB.

4) do you give up at the turn (to a bet) ?

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8♦, 8♣
UTG raises, MP calls, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3♥, 9♣, J♦ (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A♣ (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.75 BB) K♣ (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB.

5) do you value bet here vs. unkown ?

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (5 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with J♠, J♦
MP calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero raises, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 3♦, Q♥, 4♣ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 5♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB.


3 replies

sorry for answering that late but a lot of good things are going on at PokerStrategy at the moment ;)

1) sounds hard but i cap here and bet the turn and fold to a raise. You fold the best hand here so often.

2) This is somehow a WA/WB situation. He is playing OOP. So every weaker hand will almost fold directly on the flop and a lot of better hands will raise here. Of course you think you have to protect your hand here because of the draw heavy board. But i would simply call down here.

3) no move here please. To obvious, just play check/fold. And especially against unknown no move here. If you know he is a PS player perhaps you can make it but even then he will call down almost any hand, his went to showdown after 3betting preflop will be almost 80% or something like this ;)

4) yap i do, but i would bet the turn by myself if checked to get a 9 pr perhaps even a Jack to fold.

5) Value bet river, of course he will show you sometimes a queen but i didn't calculated it yet but i think you have to be here up front perhaps about 40% of the time, because often you will get two weaker calls from both opponents.


ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

thx stefan so far.

Originally posted by Stefan1000
sorry for answering that late but a lot of good things are going on at PokerStrategy at the moment ;)

1) sounds hard but i cap here and bet the turn and fold to a raise. You fold the best hand here so often.

5) Value bet river, of course he will show you sometimes a queen but i didn't calculated it yet but i think you have to be here up front perhaps about 40% of the time, because often you will get two weaker calls from both opponents.

hand 1) why you don't rate this also as an wa/wb situation ?
Most of the time I'am against overcard or an overpair, which would be eihter wa or wb. Could you please explain the difference.

hand 2) I don't bet this situations because I'am not sure how to proceed against a raise and I hope to incude a bluff. I suppose you fold against a raise here?


Both players 3bet preflop.

It is just the board at hand nr 2 is much more dangerous so when you are ahead here he will so often fold his weaker hand but he will punish you if you raise here with his better hands.

But with the first hand you just hold the best hand here so often PLUS he won't fold his Overcards.

It is more likely that he is holding overcards like AT,AQ+,KQ+ perhaps also KT

In both situations we think we hold the best hand. The difference is just that at hand nr2 the possibility that he is holding a better hand is bigger plus he will fold weaker hands more often so try to induce the bluff here.