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in a way you were pretty unlucky to be playing the hand this bad, so i guess you could put this one on variance too

how do you mean i played bad? is not it correct to shove KK on 552 board, either 2 or 5 should be in anyone hand range. of course it is possible that he hit something like this, but then on what board would you shove KK. I win against all pairs except 5 and 2. which i was putting him on.


NightFrostaSS
Joined: 25.10.2008

Put him on AK


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

3bet flop is horrible


meh flop is ok it's NL10 will prob stack off any pocket pair on that board but might not on a later street when an overcard comes.


did not won any decent hands lately. everything i play goes wrong.
here is another hand.
fire on me how bad i played you fishy fishes

Known players:   
[tg]MP2$10,60:///////;CO$11,33:///////;Hero$10,30:///////;[/tg]
0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with K♥, A♥
MP2 raises to $0,35, MP3 folds, CO calls $0,35, Hero raises to $1,40, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1,05, CO calls $1,05.

Flop: ($4,35) T♥, T♣, Q♦ (3 players)
MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4,35) J♦ (3 players)
MP2 checks, CO bets $4,35, Hero raises to $8,90 (All-In), MP2 folds, CO calls $4,55.

River: ($22,15) K♦ (1 players)

Final Pot: $22,15

he had KT


lol the solution is . never raise with AK . just call if they raise.

See flop , decide if its worth playing on

Or gamble and lose lose lose lose lose over and over


Rakoth666
Joined: 01.01.2009

Raising with AK preflop="gambling"

wow


Originally posted by Rakoth666
Raising with AK preflop="gambling"

wow

lol ok seriously how does this guy lose with 3 jacks here?

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]SB$1.22:///////;BB$5.46:///////;MP2$6.46:///////;MP3 (Hero)$5.00:///////;CO$13.96:///////;BU$4.94:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8:h, 7:h.
MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 2 folds, BB calls $0.04.

Flop: ($0.26) J:d, T:c, 4:d (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($0.26) 6:c (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.12, BB folds, Hero calls $0.12.

River: ($0.5) 5:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.48, CO calls $0.48.

Final Pot: $1.46.
Results follow:

Hero shows a straight, eight high(8:h 7:h).
CO shows three of a kind, jacks(J:c J:h).

Hero wins with a straight, eight high(8:h 7:h).


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

Originally posted by Grailer
lol the solution is . never raise with AK . just call if they raise.

See flop , decide if its worth playing on

Or gamble and lose lose lose lose lose over and over

you're full of golden advice aren't you :f_biggrin:


Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Grailer
lol the solution is . never raise with AK . just call if they raise.

See flop , decide if its worth playing on

Or gamble and lose lose lose lose lose over and over

you're full of golden advice aren't you :f_biggrin:

maybe rank AK where it belongs ...

suited face cards or offsuited face cards


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

have you ever read a book or talked to someone who's better at poker than you? :)


NightFrostaSS
Joined: 25.10.2008

Originally posted by ihufa
have you ever read a book or talked to someone who's better at poker than you? :)
the bolded part is literally impossible


Originally posted by ihufa
have you ever read a book or talked to someone who's better at poker than you? :)

AK is a drawing hand

thats what the best player in the world says .

If you over play AK then you need to realise you are probably going to lose more than 50% of the time with it.


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

Originally posted by Grailer

Originally posted by ihufa
have you ever read a book or talked to someone who's better at poker than you? :)

AK is a drawing hand

thats what the best player in the world says .

If you over play AK then you need to realise you are probably going to lose more than 50% of the time with it.

yea durrrr and ivey never raise AK preflop, they limp and if an ace or king comes they consider betting or calling


Rakoth666
Joined: 01.01.2009

I think when he says "the best player in the world" he means Hellmuth :f_biggrin:


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

exactly my thought too


Originally posted by ihufa

Originally posted by Grailer

Originally posted by ihufa
have you ever read a book or talked to someone who's better at poker than you? :)

AK is a drawing hand

thats what the best player in the world says .

If you over play AK then you need to realise you are probably going to lose more than 50% of the time with it.

yea durrrr and ivey never raise AK preflop, they limp and if an ace or king comes they consider betting or calling

those guys would raise with 79 they raise everything.

the difference is at small stakes there are more showdowns so you actually need to show a hand to win .

I mean im going to win more money with suited connectors than AK . If you raise before flop Ace comes the players will fold and u win blinds. If the flop a set and u hit your ace you lose alot of money.

But hands like this , are money makers :)

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$1.90:///////;SB$7.74:///////;BB (Hero)$5.15:///////;MP1$5.00:///////;MP2$4.01:///////;MP3$5.00:///////;CO$4.40:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with T:s, 9:s.
MP1 raises to $0.16, 2 folds, CO calls $0.16, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.5) 8:s, 7:c, 5:d (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($1.46) 6:c (2 players)
Hero raises to $4.51(All-In), CO calls $3.76.

River: ($9.73) Q:h (2 players)

Final Pot: $9.73.
Results follow:

Hero shows a straight, ten high(T:s 9:s).
CO shows a straight, nine high(8:d 9:h).

Hero wins with a straight, ten high(T:s 9:s).


Here is a prime example of why AK sucks ..

I really just wanted to win this hand before flop but like I said , these guys at this limit wont lay down any pair.

Fatal mistake to check flop here but I wanted to see if he wil bet the flop , when he checks I think Im probably ahead so I make another mistake and bet turn ... now ive made 2 mistakes and he doubles up .

What I shouldve done

A) is gambled and move all in on the flop , he calls with 1010 cause hes a donkey and I still lose :)

or B) check turn , he obviously is going to move all in or bet then I fold

I can expect he has (AA KK unlikely he would just call with these pre flop but u never know) [QQ JJ or 10 10 highly likely] ( KQ K10 99 66 Ah Jh unlikely but like I said at this limit you never know ) only 2 of those hands I can beat so easy laydown on turn -- wow alot can beat AK , maybe if I had KK not AK i wouldnt be in this situation

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]SB$4.72:///////;BB (Hero)$9.50:///////;MP2$4.47:///////;MP3$6.01:///////;CO$1.99:///////;BU$4.79:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with A:s, K:s.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.56, CO calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.14) 6:h, Q:s, K:h (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($1.14) T:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.54, CO raises to $1.43, Hero calls $0.89.

River: ($4) 4:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $4.
Results follow:

CO shows three of a kind, tens(T:h T:c).
Hero shows a pair of kings(A:s K:s).

CO wins with three of a kind, tens(T:h T:c).


Rakoth666
Joined: 01.01.2009

slowplaying tptk is the way to go! Brilliant!


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

do you go a little something like this?

1) play a hand in a random way

2) did it go well? if yes move on to point #3

3) draw conclusion that this play is good

4) post on pokerstrategy to inform the masses

?