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No Limit Holdem Tournament
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (8,073)
UTG+1 (25,308)
MP1 (8,980)
MP2 (25,420)
MP3 (4,965)
CO (4,243)
BTN (4,268)
SB (13,962)
Hero (24,115)

Blinds: 150/300 Ante 25

Pre-Flop: (675, 9 players) Hero is BB K♥ A♠
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 700, 6 folds, Hero calls 400

Flop: J♥ A♥ K♠ (1,775, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 1,234, Hero raises to 3,468, UTG+1 goes all-in 24,583, Hero calls 19,922

Should his huge shove be treated as draw more often than a made hand?


6 replies
TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

:f_confused: what draw do u mean, he will want to continue with after u check raise him on that flop? flush draw is not possible imo u have K :heart:??
imo i go for a made hand AJ,AK, JJ,KK,AA, and QTs (if he is agro loose opener).
and btw i dont like that c/r on flop i will play this hand pasivly all the way, and after that huge shove i go for fold couse i have big stack and there is not much that i can beat with mine T2P


+111 totally agree I don't know what I was thinking, autopilot FTL, just want to hear thoughts/ideas of how to properly play this, I think check/calling it down seems like the best play, I guess my raise achieves absolutely nothing. More input would be appreciated.


budzior
Joined: 26.02.2009

Originally posted by TheRebuz
:f_confused: what draw do u mean, he will want to continue with after u check raise him on that flop? flush draw is not possible imo u have K :heart:??
imo i go for a made hand AJ,AK, JJ,KK,AA, and QTs (if he is agro loose opener).
and btw i dont like that c/r on flop i will play this hand pasivly all the way, and after that huge shove i go for fold couse i have big stack and there is not much that i can beat with mine T2P

thiiiiiiiiiiiiiis


larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

Originally posted by TheRebuz
:f_confused: what draw do u mean, he will want to continue with after u check raise him on that flop? flush draw is not possible imo u have K :heart:??
imo i go for a made hand AJ,AK, JJ,KK,AA, and QTs (if he is agro loose opener).
and btw i dont like that c/r on flop i will play this hand pasivly all the way, and after that huge shove i go for fold couse i have big stack and there is not much that i can beat with mine T2P

#2

less weaker hands pay ur c/r but some better hands, u get stacked with
I think a passiv downcall is the best line ... at all its a WA/WB spot


Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

you guys are right about him not really having draws here,but that doesn't mean C/R is bad, it just means C/R/call is bad.

he can easily bet/flat draws or pairs+draws, and of course he can bet/flat worse made hands, so i think C/R/FtoOverbet is best here

although then again his shoving range is actually slightly problematic, as a) he can't really have the nuts (QT doesn't raise UTG), and b) non-nut made hands that beat you, i.e. sets, may well overbet shove hardly ever and far less often than AK and maybe AJ (a kind of confused desperation shove with two pair, doesn't feel very comfortable with big stacks and 2 pair vs C/R, but feels obliged to get it in, so just jams), so i suspect we're folding splits quite a lot, which sucks


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

@Kruppe why QT dont raise utg?? ?(