I respectfully disagree
Because of the variance? It's so strange for me since you kind of demonstrated you can make enough money so you don't have to work...
The numbers i gave are real, they reflect the reality of what is outside my door.
Over 2k salary is for me clearly worth whatever effort you need to make, and screw poker. But i think under 1.5k it has no point to work.
I don't know anybody, ANYBODY, except my uni teachers and members of the Parlament who make 1.5k+
Originally posted by andreibalint
I respectfully disagree
Because of the variance? It's so strange for me since you kind of demonstrated you can make enough money so you don't have to work...
The numbers i gave are real, they reflect the reality of what is outside my door.
Over 2k salary is for me clearly worth whatever effort you need to make, and screw poker. But i think under 1.5k it has no point to work.
I don't know anybody, ANYBODY, except my uni teachers and members of the Parlament who make 1.5k+
Where do you live, sir?
Just gonna throw this in the mix:
Isn't "You're Fired!" three words, not two.
I'm not sure though!
Over 2k salary is for me clearly worth whatever effort you need to make, and screw poker. But i think under 1.5k it has no point to work.
Are you telling us about people receiving 2000$ monthly in Romania?
I think you are joking.
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Are you telling us about people receiving 2000$ monthly in Romania?
I think you are joking.
No he was saying that for a 2k$ salary he would work but not for less then that. Here is the salary in Romania:
Let's make the math. In this country (funny it's in the EU) the minimum possible salary is
very close to 200$. Let's say you work as a student. How much more can you expect to make? (after finishing uni you might have a shot to about 400-500$).A pizza and a beer in a nice place (in the center of the city) is around 7-8$ and a beer about 2.5$. So yeah i was wrong, you can actually eat 200/11= 18.18 pizzas+1 beer per month, which is like 0.6 pizza+beer every day.
So conclusions: having a job beats playing poker when you live in a developed country and do something well paid, otherways it's worth the risk!
Let's see poker: 6$ turbo sng (no rakeback) for 5% roi, 9 tabling. 20sngs/hour so 30c*20= 6$/hour. 6*6 hours/day *20 = 720$. Lol. Average salary around is about 450$.
Poker can be a nice second incomeif you don't earn much. MY other half works part time and earns £400 a month, but my little micro stakes boost that by twice the amount. This alows us to buy a fe things for the house and for SWMBO.
Just a point, I don't need to gamble, 'they' do. 
Originally posted by Atoks
consider the fact, that a young person in (most) developed countries has a very tough road ahead.Why? Well it all starts in the education system which is simply horrible. Very few young people come out of high school knowing exactly what they're good at and what they want to do. On to college/university/w.e. (if ur lucky and got the grades earlier) where most people tend to find out they still have very little idea of what they want to do and how they want to do that. By this time they're very often 22+ yrs old, facing an existential and personal crisis, when they in fact should be starting their respective careers.
ok thats me right now, and im slightly scared about the rest of your post. LOL (but really scurred on the inside)
part time job and training poker it is 
Maybe I should have worded my post differently... I didn't want to scare people in any way. Fact of the matter is that things aren't exactly peachy when young people look to the future, regardless of the path we choose. I guess we could say that life itself is a gamble. Just remember, to always face the future with courage, faith and a firm belief, that there will always be a desire to improve and better yourself. If u achieve that, ur likely to have a great life regardless if u decide to be a lawyer, butcher, doctor, trash man, manager, vagabond, stay at home parent ... Who cares what u are as long as u are comfortable and proud of what u do (and not hurting others in any way of course).
is it weird that when u say butcher, i immediately think your talking about a killer hacking limbs off people, and take a good 5 seconds to realise u mean a meat cutter guy : /
Originally posted by Atoks
(and not hurting others in any way of course).
poker plyers do hurt others but not nealy as much as tobaaco, alcohol execs, casino owners, bookies and many other professions.
Originally posted by fun101rockets
Originally posted by Atoks
(and not hurting others in any way of course).poker plyers do hurt others but not nealy as much as tobaaco, alcohol execs, casino owners, bookies and many other professions.
Poker players don't hurt anyone, losing players hurt themselves (they should know the risks they are taking). Say I own a penut company and someone that is allergic to penuts buys my penuts, eats them and then dies is that my fault?
i think what he means is, that a problem gambler with a wife and kids who blows alot of money on poker when they cant really afford it is hurting their family. and i would have to agree with that
@ ip: thnx for posting, great article. 100% agree
@ emi: u're gonna be the richest romanian student soon 
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Originally posted by TwiceT
@ ip: thnx for posting, great article. 100% agree@ emi: u're gonna be the richest romanian student soon
hell yeah sir
Author of article lacks basic understanding of microeconomics. Also lacks brain.
"Why is getting a job so dumb? Because you only get paid when you’re working. Don’t you see a problem with that, or have you been so thoroughly brainwashed into thinking it’s reasonable and intelligent to only earn income when you’re working?"
Well, you only earn income for actually performing a service or producing a good that people are willing to pay for. If someone is paying you to sleep then somebody out there is wasting their money.
While I agree that being self-employed is particularly advantageous at times, if slightly risky, I don't think the article is even slightly accurate. It misrepresents working culture and is probably just designed to make American college dropouts feel better.
What he means when he says you are earning income when you are not working is running a business that can make money 24/7 even though you are not actively working all the time eg still take orders whilst you are sleeping. Take a look at Pokerstrategy it is making money 24 hours a day 365 days a year, even if they closed their offices right now and sacked everyone they would still be making money 24/7 for years although it would slowly decrease.
That is why this article isn't even "defending" poker most of the points he makes are arguing against poker. Poker is the worst job you can have in regards to this point. You only make money when you are playing, if you are sick, dont play, retire you are out of luck there are no benefits waiting for you.
Poker is a "gamble" in the short and long term. Short term for obvious reasons and in the long term because the environment in which we play is constantly changing. Players that were crushing 5 years ago aren't able to do so now. There is always news of new legislation that may prevent certain people from playing poker. Sure you can win a good amount of money now but what about in 10, 20, 30 years? If the day ever comes when you can't win or you are so sick of poker you want something else what then? Finding a normal job is going to be extemely difficult so you will probably have to be self employed ie your options are limited.
Poker is by far one of the biggest gambles out there and it's no surprise alot of successful players are always looking for alternatives to making money and its mostly the micro/newbies who look at it as a dream job.
I see it as a dream job. However I don't want to have to play poker to make my next rent all my life. I want to play at the highest stakes and play like 300 hands a day like Phil Ivey. Or basicaly play whenever i want. So when im 30 years old, i pretty much want to be able to retire for life and live good. And play some poker while i do.
If i'd have to grind my ass off to earn 50k a year with poker i will just become a game programmer and have poker as a nice bonus income. It's always good to have alternatives though. And i can see why people are looking for other ways to make money.
In the end.. poker is just a game. Perhaps it's a bit silly to devote your whole life into mastering a game?
