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[Closed] R/F ATo

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kiromanAAKK
Joined: 08.10.2009

Should I call this push?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $100(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($975)
BB ($1,320)
UTG ($2,745)
UTG+1 ($1,230)
UTG+2 ($1,250)
MP1 ($1,060)
Hero ($1,400)
BTN ($3,520)

Dealt to Hero A♠ T♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $250, fold, SB raises to $975 (AI), fold, fold

Thx :heart:


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Don't know, but I think when you raise from late position with a small stacked small or big blind, you need to decide whether you're going to call his shove before you raise. If you're not sure, I think you should either push or fold. Looks marginal to me, but I'd be inclined to push.


GunFlavoured
Joined: 19.10.2008

Easy call but you really need to decide that before you raise. R/F really sucks with this stack size since you lose a large percentage of your stack if you fold.


Proky11
Joined: 05.10.2009

Arrgh, I hate spots like this, as played I d make crying call


veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello,

Sick spot ye, have had such spots also. Against very tight opponents I am folding because I see myself very often dominated, against some aggressor or loose opponent I am going broke, stats would be useful here.

Best regards,
Rensu


IMHO ATos is too weak to be raising with from the cutoff especially with those stacks behind you.

I think this is a push first to act and I know some people will say you are losing value etc but I think that applies to AK or AQ type hands.

I hate folding this hand from the cutoff and If I was raising I would only call a push from the SB with it. So I say push this preflop.


raise/call the SB and raise/fold the rest.

you should always have a plan before making your raise. and raise/folding getting 2:1 is not a good idea unless you know the SB is an ultra-nitty player.

unknowns can definitely re-push worse hands than AT so im happy r/c the 10bb stack getting these odds.

open shoving 14BB is a bit of an over-shove. and my reasoning above is exactly why i would not be open shipping this. we can definitely get re-shoved by a lot worse hands.


But open shoving is not a mistake.


Originally posted by 8979687
But open shoving is not a mistake.

correct. it is +EV.

However, there are bigger +EV ways of playing it. :)

example:

AK in the SB 15bb eff. its obviously +EV to open shove. but raising to 2.5 is better because you get worse hands to re-shove you that would have folded.

we should always look to squeek out a little more profit when we can as the edge in SnGs is always very small compared with cash.