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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

another topic ...

becoming the ultimate MTT killer

i have a pretty decent understanding of mtts and the changing conditions + some icm skills from my former sng times. however, i think i need to get my skill to another level to become the ultimate mtt killer.

some questions for the mtt pros here:

basically i want to establish 2 mtt days per week. rest i play cg. sunday is pretty obv as day1, but whats day2?
i guess friday and saturday are good options, but since fr and sat is usually party time thats a prob. what about thursday? or is there any other special mtt day?

start of sessions will probably be 6pm CET.

which sites should i play? i have accounts on all sites, but are there any special mtts i need to know? is there any interesting mtt on microgaming, ongame, pacific, cake?

dunno which buy-ins i will play, but for the start i will basically play everything from 22R - 500. if i play many sites, i might concentrate just on 100$+, but i doubt that are enough trnys.

i already started watching many mtt vids and also got some late game coaching. early stages i can pretty much outplay everybody with my cg skills, but late game there is a lot to improve still. will work on that hard the next weeks.

upcoming sunday i will play my first big mtt session with my newly acquired skills. let's see how that goes :f_biggrin:

and yeah, if u have some special must-see mtt vid advise for me, pls tell me :f_grin:


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Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008

I know Phil Hellmuth's book: 'Play Poker like the Pros' is very good :f_p:.

Only $5


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Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

Hey TT

Im not a mtt pro, since my main profit comes from sng. But last month i made 6 final tables from big mtts, so i must be doing something right. :f_biggrin: So here we go:

I play mainly at stars, so the result could be different in another site.

About day2: monday sucks and wed has lower traffic than the usual. I would go for tuesday or thursday.

I would suggest you to start your sessions at 1~3pm CT. Thats because there are no good mtts running after 10pm, and thats pretty bad since a good mtt session should be really long to worth it the $/hr.

About the bi: I would suggest to play all the mtts you think you have an edge, and put a limit for max bi and min bi. I would suggest to play more lower bi's, to increase your volume and $/hr. Even for you i think the $3r at stars is good enoguh for the profit/game, esp if the field is huge and its a turbo structure. And be very careful about big mtts, cause 200bi is kinda standart.

I wouldnt play the deeps stacks tourneys, they last so long that ruins your $/hr and your playing schedule. If you do play, just stick to the $50+ deep tournies.

About what sites to play, i dont know how to answer. I just play at stars, and i will start to play at full tilt, and i hear UB has good mtts too. But i dont know how i will mass multitable with different sites at the same time. How will you manager to play more than 20 tables?


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TT get in touch with Boku87 if you haven't done that yet. He may be interested in coaching. He has made 10 -> 100k in a year. He plays 50 tables .


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opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008

Originally posted by roswellx
TT get in touch with Boku87 if you haven't done that yet. He may be interested in coaching. He has made 10 -> 100k in a year. He plays 50 tables .

is it level? ;)


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Originally posted by opal99

Originally posted by roswellx
TT get in touch with Boku87 if you haven't done that yet. He may be interested in coaching. He has made 10 -> 100k in a year. He plays 50 tables .

is it level? ;)

Its not, boku could use some mindfucker coaching :f_p:


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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

thnx4info alverine!

i have enough buy-ins for any limit, so thats ok.

so is there than any difference between tue and thur or are both days equally cool for mtts?

no good mtts after 10pm u said ... but SM is 11pm so there must at least be some, right?

hm, i guess i rly need to have a deeper look at the mtt lobbies of all sites and decide which trnys to play.

on sunday, i will def. start 6pm cuz 6:45 the first majors start. probably buy-ins till midnight so i should get some mtts running during this 12 hour session.


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Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Perhaps start untill a bit longer, Sunday 2nd chance and Sunday Mulligan start after midnight and are very soft.

On sunday you can stick to the bigger ones ($55+) and have more than enough tables to play.


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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

yeah, i should probbaly also play 2nd chance and mulligan.
will probably be a long grinding day on sunday.

today i pwned plrs in nl with my overbets on flops and turns bigtime.

here one example from nl200 where sb freaked out a bit. i shiped more 1k pots today on 200 than on 400 and 600 haha :f_grin: . gotta love nl200, like printing moniez :heart:

TT PokahRoom $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em

CO: $1004.80
Hero (BTN): $1579.35
SB: $565.70
BB: $200.00
UTG: $248.55
MP: $201.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with T♠ K♦
3 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero calls $11

Flop: ($34.00) Q♥ J♣ 4♥ (2 players)
SB bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($78.00) 9♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $154, SB raises to $527.70 all in, Hero calls $373.70

River: ($1133.40) J♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $1133.40
Hero shows T♠ K♦ (a straight, King high)
SB shows K♥ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Hero wins $1130.40

tomorrow im going to do some sports and easy grinding in the afternoon to be in perfect shape for the evening action.

ASH's BDAY PARTAAAAY.

_love: BBQ and strategy talk first, club w/ crazy vodka and dancefloor action afterwards :f_love:

also practicing some king julien moves for the clubbing action tomorrow. its gonna be legendary!!!

edit: def also gonna try the advanced moves :f_grin:


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Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

Originally posted by TwiceT
thnx4info alverine!

i have enough buy-ins for any limit, so thats ok.

so is there than any difference between tue and thur or are both days equally cool for mtts?

no good mtts after 10pm u said ... but SM is 11pm so there must at least be some, right?

hm, i guess i rly need to have a deeper look at the mtt lobbies of all sites and decide which trnys to play.

on sunday, i will def. start 6pm cuz 6:45 the first majors start. probably buy-ins till midnight so i should get some mtts running during this 12 hour session.

sorry, i got the wrong time zone. 6PM CET is very good, perhaps a little later is better. The tournies go dead around 3~5am, so enough time for sick grind. Sunday you should be starting when the sunday warmup begins.

Could you answer it my qustion about multitabling diiferent sites? :f_p:


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supeyrio
Joined: 11.11.2009

LOL..... king julian! are you going to do that in bangkok? you're definitely gonna be the chick magnet sir! :f_biggrin:


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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

@ alverine: i dont plan on super multi tabling since i wanna soulread ppl in early stages. i guess thats not rly possible with more than 14 tables
i will just start up any good-looking mtt today on all sites. will see how that goes. on smaller sites i guess there are just one or two good trnys, so most will be on ftp and stars anyway.

ok, now let's turn to some serious stuff:

PARTAAAAAY

i rly had many great parties last weeks all over europe .... but yesterday was kinda .... let's call it REMARKABLE :f_biggrin:

just a short sidenote: tln and silent didnt join. i actually wanted to sidebet on their cancellation. seems they had some rl issues again. whateva.

it was ash's bday partay. mindfucker crew started off at his place with some nice asian food + absolut + some special xxxgrass vodka + beer + whisky + cant remember
was a rly cool warmup with a lot of ps3 action while drinking monkeystyle and listening to some great house tracks

however, one guy of the crew, marky84 aka thaPsychoOnWhisky overplayed basically on every single street ... i dont wanna go into detail, maybe ash wants to explain what marky said/did :f_biggrin:

thats marky before going to the club: :f_grin:

at ~ midnight we decided to go to the club. whole crew was in super party mode, also brody (friend from usa) was on fire which should be of interest just some minutes later hahahah.
so we took another bottle of vodka for our way to tha club. on our way, we tried to calm the group down (esp marky ) to make sure, we get in. ash reserved places in the club so we could enter through the vip entrance. hence, we only had to look sober for around 15 seconds to get in.
however, that's easier said than done, cuz mr whisky himself didnt rly understood anything we told him about "looking sober when getting in". marky and me went first, the others followed us and so we tried to enter the club (where 3 girls where already waiting cuz i told them im hitting this club with a party crew)

to make it short ..... we didnt get in hahhaahha. marky as the drunken group leader didnt make the impression of being sane.
so after some arguing with the doormen my girls came out and tried to convince the guys, that we should get in cuz we are not rly drunk

anyway, plan b was to go away and try to enter the club some mins later but not as a whole group, but everybody on his own. obv marky failed hahahaha. but smush got in first, brody was following him. but brody didnt get in. for no reason they said "no man, u're out". that was enough. now the real game started. brody totally freaked out "u fkn sun of a b, he gets in but not me? cuz im black and from america or what u mothaf**. i kick your ass you !%"&%$§&/§%%"§!&(/"!&%§"!%§%$"&"
well, that was just the short story .... def. epic!
but at the same time, also rly bad, cuz we rly wanted to party hard with all our friends and celebrate ash's bday ....

after flaming the doormen some mins, we decided to leave and get into another club in the city .... so we took some taxis and drove there. before entering, we had some strategy meeting. marky was still overaggro drunk, but he didnt want to go home. he didnt understand that he was the main reason we didnt get in ...well, ash and marky tried to get in first, 2 mins later the rest of the group wanted to join. but yeah, as excpected, marky didnt get in again
meanwhile, i wrote my 3 girls that we were switching clubs ... some mins later they also arrived in front of the other club. but since we also didnt get in here, they were also a bit pissed. plan d was that marky tried to get in with the girls ... but also this attempt failed bigtime
after some more strategy talks outside, we decided to force marky to go home, ash was pissed bigtime and so some of us decided to enter the club with the girls who were still waiting for us (and getting more pissed cuz of this lame saturday night so far hahah )
but when entering, muahhahahaha, the doormen didnt let one girl in (the one marky wanted to enter before)
lols, so we were in, but 1 girl missing. .... so again ... back out and hit some kebab man in fornt of the club for some beer and discussing what to do now .... while drinking, brody (2m guy) accidently destroyed a table :f_biggrin:
long story short: we also got kicked out of the kebab man lol

but i mean most of us were poker plrs, so we're used to badbeats. easy game, gonna find another solution. we then decided to go to a club in the city centre where we know the doormen, so getting in should be possible even with marky :f_biggrin:

so we took taxis again and drove there .... now i need to shorten the story a bit, cuz im still so drunk, typing is rly not easy and i already wrote so much

finally we had a ton of fun. i mean yeah, we expected bigger clubs for ash's bday party, but what can u do. i had a ton of fun and from what i can remember, the otherr crew members had as well. after marc ordered another bottle of vodka everybody was basically in super monkey dancefloor mode. we crushed the dancefloor bigtime and danced all night long till 6 or so ... dunno.

when leaving, it was so fkn bride outside that it rly hurt in the eyes. but yeah, meanwhile all our crew members were gone and lena, drunken marky & twicet were the last party ppl standing. last challenge of the day was to get to my ap and then getting marky to the metro. he was so fkn drunk, i've rarely seen something like that before. hahaha, i mean he was sooooo drunk from 10pm - 6am. usually ppl calm down a bit .... but yeah, vodka and beer in between probably helped him to keep his level

im pretty sure, he has almost no idea what happened yesterday, so i guess i will link him to my blog and let him read what happened hahahahahahha

@ ash: im still in vienna till july 3rd, so let's plan another party next week or so where we hit one of the bigger clubs together ;)
since u still have vodka left, pre flop action @ your place again

k, plan for today: get breakfast, coaching at 4pm and from 6pm - 6am hardcore mtt grinding night + maybe some cg in the end when i dont have many mtts left.

payce out


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Great action, good story! :f_biggrin:


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jhustincase
Joined: 27.04.2010

so fu##*##**#* nice read!write a bibliography book ...also using pkr terms rulls!are native english tt or dutch one!pretty nice english skills!mine sucks but 4 understanding def no problem! Gl


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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

NEW ZEALAND!!!!!!!!!goooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal.

new zealand vs ivory coast final! what are the odds?


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FORZA ITALIA.

N-Z gets my respect unless they're playing vs Italy. Italy wins now, N-Z beats Paraguay and everyone is happy.

Great party story btw couldnt stop laughing while reading :f_biggrin:


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Marky84
Joined: 11.07.2007

hahahahaha, sry guys... no more pre-flop whiskey for me, i kinda open shoved this evening. but yeah, nxt weekend i'm in... DEF


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TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

Originally posted by Marky84
hahahahaha, sry guys... no more pre-flop whiskey for me, i kinda open shoved this evening. but yeah, nxt weekend i'm in... DEF

w00000t? u're in next weekend again!??!?

holy shit


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still lots of vodka and beer left, and im gonna buy some more from my dealer marky the whiskeyman hahhahaha

looking back i had some really great laughs. but yesterday i played the sore loser card and just fucked myself up. sry for that boys.

marky was teh shit
everybody was like, ok, in 2 minutes we are in the club, we just need to calm down, and shut up. everybody nodded silently, except marky he was like: BRAAAAAAAAAAAA, BRAAAAAAAAAAAA, ...

he said that gizillion times yesterday, lol. bouncers could here us from 1km already. wtf. he also shouted that into the face of the bouncer, while i was talking to him in normal mode.
i was like, hey come on, i want to celebrate my bday, i invited people from all over the world, and we are not to drunk promise. marky stood behind me and supported my genious freestyle speech, with a subtle: BBRAAAAAAAAAAA MOTHER FUCKER BRAAAAAAAAAA, BRAAAAAAAAAAA


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sidenote:

i talked with marky today, one of the first things he said: yeah bro club couture was great!!!
lol, we wasnt even in there


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