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[Closed] 0.10/0.20 SH 2 hands vs. ps.de TAG

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bobbel
Joined: 06.07.2006

1) What would be your line in this spot?

edit: What would be villians line with KQ?

Villian ps.de TAG (he knows i'm a ps.de TAG too)

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♦, A♥
UTG raises, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T♠, K♦, Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero ?

2)

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Limit Hold'em (5 handed) HandRecorder

Stats
BB same as above
MP (75/19/1.43/44)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♣, A♥
MP calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3♠, 2♦, 8♣ (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) K♦ (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB raises, MP folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 8♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB.


5 replies

1) well, if he's a pokerstrategy member, he'll probably raise according to SHC, so that gives him a probable range of AQs, AJs, KQs, and the same ones off suit. I would 3-bet the flop and if he caps, check/fold turn ui.

2) I think you played it ok, 8 is little scary but I think the valuebet is ok.
If villain would've capped turn then I would check behind.


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

1) its sh so he can raise a lot more hands
i would 3-bet here and call down to a cap (ui)

i think KQ would call the flop and raise the turn because he is ahead of many 3-betting hands like AT, AQ, AK or some pairs.

for me it looks a bit like a free card raise with a J or something. maybe KJ ? but i think in this case he would call the flop and raise the turn also.

2) i like it too

imho ;)


bobbel
Joined: 06.07.2006

Originally posted by frzl
1) its sh so he can raise a lot more hands
i would 3-bet here and call down to a cap (ui)

Problem with this line: When a TAG in this spot caps the flop, I think most of the time for freecard. If we play cd to the cap, he can easy cb the turn and we loose value against his draw. I would prefer b/3-b, b and if he caps, donk the turn. But what to do against a turnraise in this spot?


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

you are right but imo many players don´t have the balls to cap for a free card. especially at lower limits. after the 3-bet many players think that their free card raise failed and just get passive with their draws. (just my experience).

after a turnraise i call ^^. the pot will be about 10bb big after the turn raise and we have at least 4 clean outs for our gutshot and even more against two pair or something + the possibility that we are still ahead (maybe )
a turncard would be helpfull but i think you are talking about a blank


1) PS.cc TAG at these limits often doesn't know the call flop, raise turn line so it can be with stronmg hands as well... anyway it doesn't change our line. 3-bet flop, calldown to cap and else bet/call turn and river.

Maybe many TAGs cap here for a freecard but they don't do it very often and a raise for freecard is much more likely.

2) I don't like the 3-bet here. Better just call. You are in position so you can get in at least one BB in on the river.