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DukeFreedom
Joined: 07.04.2008

Originally posted by taavi1337
Had a nice session of 276 hands

:evil:

How many tables do you play at once actually?


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

4 tables. This session lasted 44 minutes, then I had to go.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Graph since May 1st.

I have only one question: WTF??


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Dude, that just sucks.

You know what the real answer is. It doesn't matter. The last hand doesn't matter. All that matters is playing all future hands as best you can and keep trying to improve.

Now, having said that, 800BB to the bad is pretty WTF? But that's the game. Those results are all just a combination of how you've played each hand, how your opponents played their hands (table/seat selection impacts this), and natural RNG variance.

No matter what the graph looks like, this is the reality.

So, can I suggest a few days off. I tend to play every day, so when I have had enough I've taken two or three days off and I usually feel way better (I tend to get my 1 FTP to get the 15 bonus medals at the end of the month). Depending on your usual volume I can strongly recommend a break for at least a couple of days.

Otherwise you start looking for the beat rather than looking for the opportunities.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Originally posted by Waiboy

You know what the real answer is. It doesn't matter. The last hand doesn't matter. All that matters is playing all future hands as best you can and keep trying to improve.

Yeah, but it feels good to sometimes make other people tell me this wise cliche instead of constantly repeating it by myself. Thanks buddy, I've always admired your attitude and excellent English skills.

So, can I suggest a few days off. I tend to play every day, so when I have had enough I've taken two or three days off and I usually feel way better (I tend to get my 1 FTP to get the 15 bonus medals at the end of the month). Depending on your usual volume I can strongly recommend a break for at least a couple of days.

Otherwise you start looking for the beat rather than looking for the opportunities.

First I have to get one. Maybe I should take a break of not playing poker. Maximum of 2 hours a day is just ridiculous. The main motivation for me so far has been $$$ (sad, I know), now I need to find something else. I don't want to grind emotionlessly like a robot. I want to enjoy the game, not to become its slave.

I think it would be pointless to abandon FL. This is the home of my skills.

My mindset has become sooo strong. I just need the passion what I had when grinding FL FR 0.10/0.20 six hours a day... that was almost a year ago.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Tried to 4-table Rush $0.25/0.5 FL SH. That's pretty sick and exhausting, but I had some nice heater of 4 BB/100 (30 mins of play).


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Normal tables sucketh IMO at the moment. Fish all at $.25/$.50 SH Rush obv.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Yep, almost no traffic at $0.5/$1, that's why I searched for alternatives. No SnG traffic either, so I tried Rush

edit: of course, there's never any traffic at FL SnGs


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I tried FL SnGs 5$ & 10$ before Rush week so there was some traffic at 6max.

Also tried NLFR Rush good traffic and nitty style pays off good.


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ZhiCheng
Joined: 04.10.2008

Originally posted by taavi1337
Graph since May 1st.

I have only one question: WTF??

not FL player..

Does this mean u r up 4k on rakeback ?

nah.. sucks rly!
When u fall, get up eyo eyo!
More luck sir!


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Originally posted by GooRukYONG
not FL player..

Does this mean u r up 4k on rakeback ?

nah.. sucks rly!
When u fall, get up eyo eyo!
More luck sir!

Thanks!

Nah, I guess it's like $300-$400 rakeback.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Grinded till the early morning last night . Started a new session 2 o'clock at night cause I couldnt sleep. The tables were awesome, mostly like this:

That guy on the BU was a huge maniac, I 3-betted him with almost any ace, then he capped and bluffed down with any two. Just had to pray he wouldnt hit anything :f_biggrin:


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DukeFreedom
Joined: 07.04.2008

You gotta love those guys...

...or you hate them, if you loose like 100 BB to their lucky *** over a bunch of hands. ;)

But yeah, maniac + 2 passive fish + LAG + unknown is a pretty good table.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Siiick grinding night again. Longest session ever, 5.5 hours. Made some tiny breaks of course. I also 6-tabled instead of usual 4-tabling and took some shots at $1/2 again. Volume = profit, I ran 3 BB/100 during these 2,6k hands and even 14 BB/100 at $1/2 for 145 hands.

I guess it was the opposite day, that is, the opposite night.

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:c, T:d.
Hero raises, 4 folds, BB 3-Bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.5 SB) A:d, 5:c, J:h (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q:c (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K:h (2 players)
I hope he has aces...

BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB.

Results follow:

Hero shows a straight, ace high(A:c T:d).
BB shows three of a kind, aces(A:s A:h).

Hero wins with a straight, ace high(A:c T:d).

MWAHAHAHA, THE OPPOSITE NIGHT :f_biggrin:

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Found another nice hand:

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5:d, J:h.
2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 7:d, 6:h, 4:h (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (2 BB) K:s (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (4 BB) A:h (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB.

Results follow:

Hero shows high card ace(5:d J:h).
SB shows high card ace(T:d 8:d).

Hero wins with high card ace(5:d J:h).

On the river I knew he would try to induce bluffs from busted draws, so I made a valuebet.


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tomzyb
Joined: 02.08.2007

Originally posted by taavi1337

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5:d, J:h.
2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 7:d, 6:h, 4:h (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (2 BB) K:s (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (4 BB) A:h (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB.

Results follow:

Hero shows high card ace(5:d J:h).
SB shows high card ace(T:d 8:d).

Hero wins with high card ace(5:d J:h).

On the river I knew he would try to induce bluffs from busted draws, so I made a valuebet.

Ok, this river play really doesn't make any sense at all.. If he was trying to induce bluff on the river by a busted draw, he suceeded, but obv this was not this guy's intention (he is obv just a huge fish).
Pls tell me about how many times will you get paid of by a WORSE hands on the river with J-high LOL,1 in 100 times maybe? You just got lucky huge here again to get paid by T-high.

Hand is pretty much set for a standard line: call flop, raise turn, and probably check river because there arent enaugh Qhigh strightdraw combos (better hands that you make to fold).

Don't be too angry at me but with your spewiness no wonder you are down 800BB - it's not a bad luck, you are getting beat. I have never got in a downswing bigger than 350BB or so and i have quite some chunk of hands behind me from 1/2 to 5/10 all tipes of FL (FR, SH and HU). Even the 350BB were not just bad luck but getting beat my ass off on higher limits by better plrs.

The thing is the bigger your edge, the smaller the downswings.

Stop making silly moves as they are so costly especially on such low limits where rake is so high.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

hahaha, I must really look like a huge fish :f_biggrin:

Ok, I try to explain it better. The reason why I didn't raise the turn was that this guy had 50 WTSD and he wouldn't have folded anything there. When the river came he _instantly_ checked it so I thought maybe he is capable of folding a better hand there, like Qx or Jx. Yes, it doesn't seem to be a profitable bluff at all, but the reason why I bet there was the timing tell. But you're right, it's probably a spew.

I added this hand for entertainment, right after my bet, he thought a little and called. I was like: "Oh, what a silly bluff attempt from me, I won't do it again", and then the chips were slided to me. Sweet emotion, positive WTF.

Don't be too angry at me but with your spewiness no wonder you are down 800BB - it's not a bad luck, you are getting beat. I have never got in a downswing bigger than 350BB or so and i have quite some chunk of hands behind me from 1/2 to 5/10 all tipes of FL (FR, SH and HU). Even the 350BB were not just bad luck but getting beat my ass off on higher limits by better plrs.

TerrorBlade moved from 5/10 down to 1/2, probably another fish around: TerrorBlade's Poker Career

Ah, I can't convince you anyway. I'm a fish forever, and you're the shark since you were born (no offence). :f_love:

Thanks for the criticism, always appreciated.


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Originally posted by taavi1337
TerrorBlade moved from 5/10 down to 1/2, probably another fish around: TerrorBlade's Poker Career

The only thing I'd say about this, is if you ask TB, he'll tell you he was a terrible player at this time, and now he is way better (LDO).

Still, as long as we're all trying to play each hand better than the last we're on the right path.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Originally posted by Waiboy
The only thing I'd say about this, is if you ask TB, he'll tell you he was a terrible player at this time

Still much better than me at the moment I guess.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Sweet hand from last night's session:

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K:h, Q:h.
CO posts deadblind, CO posts deadblind, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO checks, BU calls, Hero raises, BB calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, BU calls.

Flop: (10.5 SB) K:c, 2:d, 9:d (5 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, BU folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 8:c (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 9:h (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB.
Results follow:

Hero shows two pairs, kings and nines(K:h Q:h).
BB shows two pairs, nines and eights(7:d 8:d).
CO shows two pairs, kings and nines(7:c K:s).
MP3 shows two pairs, jacks and nines(J:s J:d).

Hero wins with two pairs, kings and nines(K:h Q:h).

Hehehe, value town 3 people with just top pair, sounds like micro stakes.


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Man, tables were a happy place today! Except for this one annoying TAG who kept snaking my action. :f_p:

I :heart: Sunday mornings at FTP!


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