vonki - The return of the Queen

@ Toby: well, you should know I don't think like that. I know it's not the best starting hand preflop but seriously, It was the worst hand of all hands i played in the session, and I'm not defending the hand as a preflop starting hand. But I do on the other hand only pay 0,5bb to see a flop, and against players who are willing to bluff away 50bb with J high and who plays 90% of his hands, I don't think it's all that wrong to experiment with it, as long as you know how to handle the situation and go crazy with the hand in the wrong spots.
If they catch me playing such a hand they're more inclined to think of me as a loose player too obv, and give me less credit then if I was to play as nitty as the other regs on the table. And like I said, I never planned to go crazy with the hand in the wrong situation.

Don't get me wrong, your comments are welcome, but preferably only if you bother to read the whole story, otherwise such a comment isnt very useful imo.

@ jmackenzie: No, I have in fact not played any live cashgames at all, execpt for some homegames with friends. I do want to play more live however, I just need the roll for it first

xx vonki

Isnt live poekr or poker in general actually banned in Sweden?

You can play at the casinos runned by the state... there are like 4 casinos in Sweden I think

The dealers arent even allowed to take any tips, I heard. So I might give it a try sometime soon. ♦

*EDIT* You can also play on their online pokersite, also runned by the state... ♦

Dno about playing on other sites, I think it's legal tho tbh

vonki is a good poker player

Originally posted by supeyrio
vonki is a good poker player

are you mocking me?

dont play live in sweden, casinos close already at 5 o clock

muahahhaha

regarding the K6 hand: like someone mentioned already the situation was pretty similar to a typical live cash game situation.
whole table limps and u can overlimp basically any2. in this case u only had to pay half a bb to see a flop.
true the hand itself is pretty crappy, but we will hardly get into trouble spots with described opposition. if we would, than we might wanna work on our skills ;
the goal is just to catch a piece of the flop and just stack off most of the time. implieds in such games are just to huge to give em up.

thanks for clearing that out ash

So I was gonna update on sunday with a graph and stuff and look at my cashier for the first time of the week.

But then, on saturday I ran rly bad, and on Sunday I ran pretty bad aswell. It did in fact affect me, I tilted a bit and when I had finnished the session I thought to myself:

"Why would I check the cashier now, for what good? The only thing that will happen is that I will think like - oh If I had'nt gotten sucked out I would be up this and this much- etc, and there is no real reason for me to actually check my cashier because I have a steady roll for NL50 and I consider myself to be a winning player not at risc of moving down. So why look?"

And I am right. There is no reason to look, as I feel it does affect me in some ways to check my results. The only thing that should matter is the quality of my play, and I don't need my results to see that.

So then I thought, how about trying to upgrade my discipline and mindset? How about testing myself, and take it one step further? Instead of allowing myself to look at my cashier once a week, how about making it once a month? Yea, I'm in!

So.. No updates (or well, reading a "I ran pretty good today"-post is kind of boring so... rather not, right?) about poker until the end of the month. The end of the month is when I will have a look at my cashier, graphs etc again. Not until then. I just ask myself if my discipline is good enough, or if my curiousity owns me bigtime.

Wish me luck people! ♦

xx vonki

kudos to u. i couldnt pull something like this off.
u saw me, i checked cashier or HEM every 3 minutes ♦ hahahha

haha yea ash, if not more often imo... ♦ You're a curious little thing!

Greetings to the wifey from me! I miss ya'll Will plan to come back to Austria as soon as I got time and money left over... ♦

Help Needed!

So, lately I've been finding myself beating myself up after finnishing a session with a couple of bad moves. Either the session ends well or not (I wouldn't really know since I dont check my balance but I still have a general idea) I find myself beating myself up for making bad mistakes.

This means, my motivation to play another session kind of dies because I'm worried that I might continue making bad moves. It's not like I always make a whole lot of bad moves, but still some.

At the same time, I can't remember having many "in the zone" sessions where I make very very few mistakes. And making mistakes is a part of a pokerplayers (at least for my level) reality. Or am I wrong?

I need you guys to answer some questions that might make it easier for me.

How big parts of your sessions do you play A-game?
How often do you catch yourself making mistakes during sessions?
How do you react to it and how do you deal with it?
What is your oppinion on the subject?

Any answers would be helpful, no matter who you are, just answer away!

Thanks in advance,

xx vonki

Sounds like me. I am ready to kill myself when I make a big mistake. Bad beats doesnt bother me at all but those bad plays tilts me. ♦

I absolutely have the same problem. I was winning last month with 5bb/100 in 60k hand. Started this month terribly with the wrong mindset, payed off my opponent when I knew I was beat. Still have to get into green numbers.

My biggest problem is that my C-game is absolutely terrible. I attribute that to too weak fundamentals that together with my stabby style are a receipt for disaster. At least I usually manage to stop playing pretty soon but it interferes with my volume. For me this is the single biggest thing I need to improve with, but it should also be the hardest since I don't know the reason why it happens.

I guess the best way to avoid this is to review each session, think in depth about the mistakes, so the next time you react better. Only problem is that when I play bad I'm also not in the mood for session reviewing.

Originally posted by vonki
no matter who you are, just answer away!

You asked for it!

Originally posted by vonki

How big parts of your sessions do you play A-game?

6max i mostly auto-pilot and play my so called A game very infrequently, probably less than 40% of the time. Not a good thing I know, but as long as you recognize that you aren't playing your best you can just play solid TAG, straightforward poker and playing such style is completely enough to beat SSNL.

How often do you catch yourself making mistakes during sessions?

Very often! But everyone does it, if you aren't making mistakes you are either god or you aren't recognizing what you do wrong and won't improve IMO.

How do you react to it and how do you deal with it?

Mark the hand and review it later. Well mostly i don't review it but that's just because i'm a lazy bum.

What is your oppinion on the subject?

????

xx vonki

keep on trucking!

Exactly the same as 2 posters above me ♦ I ahv e the same problem, I wanted to put sick volume this month but I jsut cant play much after I find myself doing a mistake, and I do them
therefore I will experiment with playing lot of 1 hour seassions from friday and I will tell u how it goes

1) from 2 hours like hopefully lie 1hour 20min
2) I would say on average 1 every 30min but sometimes even more
3) I react to it really badly, liek FU, it was so fkcign obvious, or I know he has it why do I call him? jsut to be sure he has it? etc. I usually take a break in next ten minutes, not instantly but I will take a break to clear my head
4)I imagine lots of players on NL25-100/200 has the same problem

EDIT: I failed :f_eek:, started to write it liek hour ago so by posters above me I mean Vonkis Orig post and the guy after her

Making a habit of not looking at the cashier is a bad habit imo unless you never plan on moving up limits anymore.

This is because when you decide to take a shot at a new limit you'll have the added pressure of having to check your balance every now and again.

I personally feel that not having constraints at all to when you look at your bankroll you dont feel anywhere near as bad as when you decide to wait a week but you hit a bad last session that destroys your winnings.

About making big mistakes it's good that you've spotted it in the first place, mark the hand and decide how you would personally play it. If you have any sort of hesitation as to how to play it, even if you think the way you did it was clearly wrong post it in the forums. If your too embaressed to show what you actually did change it to hero???

I have the same problem. As others as said its that our B and C game are really bad! Although people say you should improve them but I am not really sure how? I suppose just study more and it means that all your games get better.

hmm, I think some of you understood me wrong, some might have gotten the point.

It's not really that I'm unaware of what the bad plays are, and why it happens. I know it's perfectly fine when I'm not 100% focused anymore. Therefor, reviewing my mistakes won't help, because I already know I'm making them. It's more the fact that I beat myself up FOR MAKING mistakes and what the reaction of that leads to that is the issue for me.

@ Night: keep on trucking? That's a new one to me. What does it mean?

@ THEShade: Let me know how that works out. Tried it myself many times too though.

@ jmackenzie: Thanks for the effort of the reply but I don't think you know me well enough hihi. Why would there be added pressure by looking at your cashier when you move up a limit? That's not pressuring at all imo. It's just a safety precation About the "hit a bad last session that destroys all your winnings" ehm. Well that's all about being able to handle it yourself? By not looking for a whole month you'll be able to grind it out. One bad session at the end shouldnt affect a whole month's profit, unless you tilted away endless stacks and then it's justified to feel bad imo

And like I wrote, it's not about the big mistakes. I do mark hands and I do post hands, but like I said it's sooo not about that lol. Sounds like you think I'm a little novice I'm the last person to be "embarrassed" about bad plays You got it all wrong! Anyways thnx tho I guess

@ Toby: Yea, well my B-game is decent I think, I found ways to work on that in the spring. To me it all came down to being aware of that I'm not playing my best, and still try and try my hardest to improve my B-game. Aka make smaller mistakes and eliminate the bigger ones. Worked out good for me.

I just really think I pressure myself too hard not to make mistakes at all. I've always been a bit like that, aim for the stars and don't settle with hitting the tree tops. I think it's my way of always trying harder or not settling for what is next best.

I mean sure it sucks to beat yourself up and feel bad over something but as long as it's not to the extreem that it does drive me to work harder.

Hmm.

Oh well, I'm all confused now

xx vonki

On a side note don't waste your 2000th post

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