vonki - The return of the Queen

Originally posted by vonki
How big parts of your sessions do you play A-game?
How often do you catch yourself making mistakes during sessions?
How do you react to it and how do you deal with it?
What is your oppinion on the subject?

@ a,b,c,d,e,f ... game:
my take on it: fuck off b,c,d .... game
a-game always or dont play. my definition of a game is the following:

given all your poker skill & all the information on surroundings you have, you try to play the best game for given conditions.

meaning when u have some rl issues but need some disctraction and want to make some moniez, u play 2 limits lower than usual and enjoy the "easy" game. ofc, this playing style is not "a-gamish" for your standard limit, but given the situation, u are playing a-game.

playing your home limit it means you are taking the game serious, playing focused and concentrated and do whatever u think makes u win longterm (like u might not analyzing hands in play but afterwards in hem, thats ok ofc. i personally like to analyze in game as often as possible)
just saying its "b-game" cuz u made 4 - given all the information - longterm ev- mistakes is totally wrong imo.
we are not playing b-game here. we are making wrong decisions cuz we still have many fishy tendencies in our play. dont find excuses like "b-game". we are making these mistakes even in your a+ game cuz we probably didnt study the game enough and still are fish in this spot. only solution: dont blame b-game, but blame your overall poker skill and improve, improve improve ....

mistakes are key and most important (!!). @ life, business, uni and poker tables. mistakes let u improve. learn from them and dont to them again. thats what makes us pro.

to sum it up "learn to lose, and u will be rdy to win"

btw: aaaah, i expected some life changing philosophical 2k post lady

thanks for your input sir.

Hmm, yea I was thinking about making a post but then I thought: What is there to write about? I already posted quite some interesting and nice stuff over the last couple of months and I've pretty much run out of things to say.

Therefor, I chose not to. 2k posts is nothing big anyways imo, I'll wait until my 5kth post and by then I should have plenty of things to say

I did however start thinking a bit and, the more i grow the more I can actually see it. I mean, I did get a far way since Nov last year when I was still playing NL25 FR and just basically didn't think much or know much at all really.

It feels like ages ago, and the more I change the more different I feel from most others. It's like you outgrow people in a way. It struck me the most when someone posted that I should post hands "even tho I play them wrong" and might be embarassed about posting hands etc. I mean yea, that was me in Nov 2009, that is not me now.

But then even tho I see myself having grown alot, I just feel like you know... I didn't really put in enough effort. I didn't work hard enough (I seriously didn't.). I could put in so many extra hours per day analyzing, learning and improving. Yet I dont. It's my biggest current issue.

But, I started reasing leatherasses book and it might help. I hope so. I am still working on putting in more volume, learning more and all that and I think that in my own way I'm making progress. For now ♦

xx vonki

WTf.. so sick..

I just love reading whatever TT has to say abt everything..
So many wise words again...

Btw.. vonki.. stop chilling around a ship some moniez!
Havent u heard abt October party time ?

Go go girl!

I would say I shipped more moniez this month in CG then any month so far and my MTT cash will attribute to it aswell

But my chillout is soon to be over, my last day in Holland today and tomorrow I fly back to Sweden. Monday damn school starts again...

My baby sister (4 yrs) had a concussion a few days ago, god bless her. I was thinking about bringing her something nice, just to cheer her up a bit.

W00tey!

So my damn luggage is still somewhere between Munich and Stockholm I guess, my flight was delayed to Munich and my bag didn't make it so I'm still waiting for them to call me and let me know my bag is on my way to be delivered to my house.

Almost all my clothes, my makeup, MY CHARGER etc is in the bag so I kind of want it asap. ♦

On a sidenote, I have taken on a new student: nathanrenard - 3F - Focus, Fun and Flexibility - check out his blog!

He seems like a very dedicated and serious player and I enjoy teaching others what I know so far. I always had a helping hand by more experienced players which did me alot of good so I'm giving back to those I feel deserve it.

I think "coaching" him will actually inspire and motivate myself too. Not to mention it's always useful to put our thoughtprocesses into words. The more we talk/do/read/watch about poker the better! It will be great fun I think.

So uhm. Keep your fingers crossed for my damn bag! ♦

Oh yea, and my headset is in the bag too I'm waiting to get it back so I can schedule a coaching with Bierbaer! After that I hope we will evaluate how well I'm doing and fix some small leaks before it's time to start thinking about stabbing at NL100. Weeeee!

Over and out.

xx vonki

Well, i won't talk much, but i have to say i'm pretty thrilled to have vonki helping me out there.

Maybe in a not so far away future we can grind together on the same stakes and discuss the session with a cold beer

Originally posted by nathanrenard
Maybe in a not so far away future we can grind together on the same stakes

i doubt thats what she wants

Originally posted by opal99

Originally posted by nathanrenard
Maybe in a not so far away future we can grind together on the same stakes

i doubt thats what she wants
Same stakes, not the same tables (:

- "Hey vonki, i played this guy already, man what a fish!"

hihi, no offense but I think it will take some time before we reach the same level But if we're not gonna play the same tables anyway then what stops us from grinding and drinking a cold beer? ♦

So uhm anyways, I woke up a while ago... my phone went off. My first though was "bloody idiots, people know not to wake me up at this time! ... since I didn't fall asleep until after 2 o clock because I don't have to go to school until thursday. Then my second thought was "ooo, maybe they don't know, maybe it's my bag!". I wasn't gonna pick up at first but then I did anyway and it indeed was my bag on the way!

But I got slightly surprised as the man went like "Yea I'm delivering your bag, can you come outside? I'm there in 2 minutes". I was like have no clothes on, just stumbled out of bed to pick up my phone but uhm... yea! Didn't tell him that ofc, god know what kind of perv it could be ♦

But I quickly got dressed and brushed my hair and now I have my bag again so my headset, charger, clothes and makesup is baaaack!

And this is me going back to bed. Cy'all in a couple of hours!

xx vonki

lol ♦

at least you got your samba sauce now

YES!! ♦

soooo. I am running quite sick lately (or so I think, by the action on the tables and the stacks flying my way).

Yesterday I won my biggest pot ever, 420bb pot which equals to 220$. Wow, it was... exciting. I mean, it did affect me. Like, I got excited and a bit shaky so that makes me think... that perhaps, I am not ready for NL100 yet for some time. I mean on NL100 I will be shipping and loosing 200$ pots constantly...

Before yesterday I was excited and felt like I would be ready for NL100 soon, as soon as I fixed some things in my game. Now, I'm not sure anymore. But then again, it's only about getting used to it and I have always been one to adapt to situations rather quickly.

I guess I will just take it easy. Play some more hands, then get my coaching and watch the results after the end of the month. After that I will evaluate if I am ready for a stab or not. Feels exciting though.

It has never been that important to me to move up as soon as I have the bankroll for it, but more whenever I feel ready for the next step. And in a way I do, I feel like my game is solid, and that I am one of the better regs on NL50. Although, I still have quite some errors in my game obviously.

So uhm. Yea. Play more, coaching and re-evaluation ftw!

Stay tuned!

xx vonki

it might not just be the money. I get all shaky (well, a little) if i play a massive pot at nl50, but then I don't care about winning or losing a 2k pot at nl2k, let alone a 200$ pot at nl100; it's all about BB's. But maybe that's just me.. i stopped caring about money a long time ago.

If that's not it, then you could always do what I did when I first took shots at nl400 (back in the day when even I could win at 200 ). I chased a fish up to nl600, played a couple big pots (felt super scared) and quit, then nl400 seemed like low stakes in comparison ♦

(disclaimer: I don't recommend this approach. seriously, don't do it.)

good luck when you do decide to move up

Nh!

Gl for that, I'm also stabbing NL100 at the beginning of the next month.

swissmoumout I agree about the BBs. If I lose a 400bb pot at 25NL I will be more annoyed than a 200bb pot at 50NL even though they are the same pot size in $.

Also if I can beat 50NL for the rest of August and some of September. I might takes some shots at 100NL, although I am already rolled for 100NL I don't want to take shots yet because i'm definitely not good enough. cu @ the big tables! ♦

oh ffs, I accidentaly got a glimce of my bankroll today when I wanted to register for a tourney I didn't wanna know that.

But that being said, unless I go on a loosing streak I am now rolled for stabs at NL100. Hmm hmm. ♦

do it! and crush it!

gl and post some graphs since you know where you are now

well since you asked for it...

This is what august looks like, since I came back from my trip.

With rakeback I'm almost up 1k$ this month, in roughly 9k hands.I do run 300$ above EV, but that doesnt say much. I surely have been running quite well, but even if you would withdraw the 300$ or more from it, it would still be a decent result for NL50 imo.

Overall though, I am only up about 700$ on NL50, in about 45k hands or something. I did not really play that well when I moved up, and tilted and ran bad so uhm... I'm not quite sure where I stand to be honest.

On the other hand, I have felt that I play as well as I ever have since I got back from my trip, and that I have improved alot. So what do you guys think, should I take a stab at NL100 soon and try to improve further there, or stay within my comfert zone for another 10-20k hands and see if it's not just imagination?

Hmm, guess I have better schedule that coaching with Bierbaer soon. Any comments are aprechiated.

xx vonki

Go for it, comfort zone is recipe for stagnation in your game imo. And less fun too.

xxx NightFrostaSS

Maybe take a really conservative shot like only a couple of buy in stop loss. You can get a feel for NL100 without risking too much. Go for it!