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[Closed] [NL100 sh] JJ when fold?

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($118)
BB ($268)
Hero ($127)
BTN ($182)

Dealt to Hero J :diamond: J :club:

Hero raises to $4, fold, fold, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

FLOP ($24.50) 2 :diamond: 7 :heart: 5 :spade:

BB bets $15, Hero calls $15

TURN ($54.50) 2 :diamond: 7 :heart: 5 :spade: Q :diamond:

BB bets $29, Hero folds

BB wins $52

Villains is a good reg, he plays 20 15 ; 5 in 3bet and 2,2 in AF on 1k hands

I think I played bad this hand but I don’t see a better one!

Préflop villain 3bet not much but in front of his 5% 3bet there is, definitely, a lot of bluff in his range. Is the position Call ok?

The flop is very good for me, villains cbet 75% in the 3bet flops, call’s ok ?

More complicated at the Turn, the Q bothers me and in front of his 2 barrels there’s not much bluff left in his range imo and I’m beated. His aggressivity turn is limited (2 af), I doubt that he second barrel a lot on bluff in his 3bet pot. Is fold better? Or a line call and call on the blank river is preferable?

Thanks!


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VzLOM
Joined: 23.12.2007

i like it


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by MadameSiegrist
Préflop villain 3bet not much but in front of his 5% 3bet there is, definitely, a lot of bluff in his range. Is the position Call ok?

I suggest you open up the equilator and look at how a 5% range actually looks ;).

You'll find that actually there arent any bluffs. This is a 5.3% range:
88+,AJs+,KQs,AKo

However, I still think the call with JJ IP is fine.

Originally posted by MadameSiegrist
The flop is very good for me, villains cbet 75% in the 3bet flops, call’s ok ?

I think it is. Raising doesn't make much sense as there are almost no worse hands in his range (even 88-TT might not automatically stack off) and if we fold on a flop like this we should definitely rather muck it preflop.

Originally posted by MadameSiegrist
More complicated at the Turn, the Q bothers me and in front of his 2 barrels there’s not much bluff left in his range imo and I’m beated. His aggressivity turn is limited (2 af), I doubt that he second barrel a lot on bluff in his 3bet pot. Is fold better? Or a line call and call on the blank river is preferable?

This depends on whether he is capable of 2ndbarreling AK, but I think the fold is the best play on the turn.

There are 6 combinations of AA and KK each, 3 combinations of QQ, 3 of AQs and 3 of KQs, so a total of 21.
He could even 3bet more preflop, given the positions.
If we include AQo and KQo in his range there are 9 additional combinations of AQo and KQo each, so the total number of valuecombinations is 39.

AKo has only 16 combinations and he is probably not even betting those 100% of the time.

Our equity isn't that great:
Board: Qd 7d 5h 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.252% 72.25% 00.00% 10491 0.00 { QQ+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 27.748% 27.75% 00.00% 4029 0.00 { JJ }

So while we have a close call equitywise, 29/(54+29+29)= 0.259= ~26% he might be bluffing less often on the turn (therefore our equity would be worse) and additionally we might not be able to see a SD sometimes when he decides to bluff again on the river (we can not call a riverbet).

So nh!