[Closed] Is playing poker against any religion?

Originally posted by bohemiagrove

Originally posted by OZSA

Originally posted by MatejM47
I think you should ask your priest this question. I doubt you'll find many experts on religion here

I'm no expert of religion, but I can say what its for. Giving hope for the non-thinker, strength for the ignorant... for the rest of the ppl, its just bullshit

Saruniks, I say you should just play poker till christ or god (whoever you believe in more) will come after you, hey he might sit down on ur table once... ♦

You are idiot and I can prove you worng in 1000 ways.
KGB Brain washed thast what you are.Ask me if you need to know how wrong are you and how bad are you for humanity...mr.IDONTLIKE to read books.

woohooo man, you are really young, or just too old to think rationally... whatever, god will forgive you for saying these words to me, also, will forgive me, because he forgives everyone, isnt that nice ?:) lovely

btw there's something really funny about those people who defend their own religion and their god's existence.. they always get mad,angry when they cant prove their point.. nonbelievers are so much chillaxed, relaxed, they never get angry about such things...i say dont overkill your heart dude, its not gonna help

Originally posted by Saruniks

Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
Be pagan, back to our roots goddamit

Ten, kur saulė leidžias vakaruos, kur Prūsų giminės
Pavargusios kovot su kryžių nešančiais šunim,
Krito Pamedė, Galinda, Barta, gynės Semba
Ir Notanga sukilimais šlavė vokiečių pilis.
Penkiasdešimt metų kovės narsiai, nenurimo
Karo būgnas, plakt širdis, kerštu liepsnojantys ginklai,
Teks palikt tėvų žemes ir pažadą sugrįžt, ugnim
Išdegint tai, kas svetima, į pelenus paverst.

Prūsus ir Jotvingius, Kuršius, Sėlius ir Žiemgalius
Lietuva priglaust suspėjo, ginklą galinčius laikyt,
Geležinės valdė rankos, kautis troško ir atkeršyt,
Už tėvų mirtis krikščionims galą padaryt.
Niekšai, jūs svajojat eit toliau, anapus Nemuno,
Ir žemę Lietuvos grėsmingais kryžiais nusmaigstyt,
Mes vergaut nepratę, mūsų laisvė - tai kova,
Mes visi numirsime mūšyje laisvi.

Pralaimi tie, kurie nebetiki,
Nustoja plakt širdis, įpuolusi į neviltį.
Sudėt ginklus - pasmerkt gyvenimą,
Iškeisti laisvę į beviltišką vergavimą.
Kas drįsta pult į priešų begalę,
Suklupęs kumštyje suspaudžia savo pergalę.
Visai arti, anapus Nemuno,
Laukt pasiruošę dieną naktį priešo svetimo.

Ryt sudrebės dangus, prapliups lietum, pažadins vėjus,
Sūkuriais audra pakils ir juodu vandeniu patvins,
Nemunas galingas siena stos ir nei vienas išpera
Nė kojos kelti Lietuvon nedrįs.
Matos iš toli grėsmė, dangus ugnim kraujuoja,
Kitame krante jau girdis atžygiuojantys būriai,
Rytą jūs vaitosit, jeigu Nemuną įveiksit,
Ir gailėsitės, kad jūsų dievas siuntė jus čionai.

Does poker have god too? what is name of it? lol

My name is Almantas, pleased to meet you

The youtube link is freakin hilarious and all true anyways so who can be mad about it

I'm an atheist, so being religious is against my religion.

And if it was infact tasteless then im sure god will punish him when the time comes

and me too

Originally posted by bohemiagrove
I think that if you put to much bad beats you will go to hell....or just get bad karma .But if get bad beats you will go in heaven or fix your karma =).
If you bluff you basicly lie and it is a sin ! ahahhahah
Thank for your nice post real fun

Are you aware of the fact that there is no karma in Christianity?

Anyway my only goddess is Shana Hiatt and im pretty sure she doesnt mind me playing.

Originally posted by OZSA
btw there's something really funny about those people who defend their own religion and their god's existence.. they always get mad,angry when they cant prove their point.. nonbelievers are so much chillaxed, relaxed, they never get angry about such things...i say dont overkill your heart dude, its not gonna help

well I don't get angry, dunno why, you believe what you want, that's all, I don't see problem.

only one thing I don't like is people wearing cross and saying they believe in God and don't want to know anything about Jesus or Church and so so. It's like they do that to get good girls notice them...

well, I don't think that even good girls don't like religious boys, so I don't get it anyway...

Originally posted by Saruniks

Originally posted by OZSA
btw there's something really funny about those people who defend their own religion and their god's existence.. they always get mad,angry when they cant prove their point.. nonbelievers are so much chillaxed, relaxed, they never get angry about such things...i say dont overkill your heart dude, its not gonna help

well I don't get angry, dunno why, you believe what you want, that's all, I don't see problem.

only one thing I don't like is people wearing cross and saying they believe in God and don't want to know anything about Jesus or Church and so so. It's like they do that to get good girls notice them...

well, I don't think that even good girls don't like religious boys, so I don't get it anyway...

So church is more important than just having your relationship with god? I never really understood what the function of church was other than crusades, money collecting, child abuse and lobbyism

In Orthodox Christianity, gambling is a sin. Not a mortal sin, but against God's will. But it's not clear whether the Orthodox Christians would consider poker to be gambling.

The long post quoting extensively from the Bible laid it out pretty well. You're okay as a poker player as long as you don't let it consume your life and make you violate _other_ rules of morality, such as knowingly playing against drunks and problem gamblers. (Note I say "knowingly" because, in online poker, it's often impossible to tell. Live poker is different.) Of course, winning players tend to violate those rules all the time, so you be the judge.

When you make money from poker you are profiteering from the misfortune of others. This is considered un-christianlike and therefore against the teachings of Christ. It falls under the "Love your neighbour" category.

For those that don't believe, fine, that is your choice, but I am answering this question for the person that wants to know, not for those who want to take the ****. <---(Swearing is also against the christian teachings) ♦

imo it's not against any religion as long as you remember on co/bu/sb "You shall not steal"

Originally posted by Vildcz
imo it's not against any religion as long as you remember on co/bu/sb "You shall not steal"

this

Originally posted by rtrtrtr
When you make money from poker you are profiteering from the misfortune of others. This is considered un-christianlike.

I am certainly aware there is an argument for this. However I am not sure I fully agree.

A professional poker player is not looking to profit from the "misfortune" of others but rather through his skill edge. It seems that all people who sit down at the table are fully aware of the risks and can be considered bound by a non-verbal agreement.

A lot of the time villain will still have some equity in a pot, and it's unlikely they will feel bad for you should they end up winning any given session. Granted problem gamblers do exist, but this is not the fault or the problem of the professional poker player.

I fully see why some people may consider winning money from someone not "showing love for your neighbour". I think it depends on your perception though. I have never had gambling issues and frankly see poker as an innocent pasttime. As I'm sure most of you realise, to play a decent game vs good opponents, play-money tables are pretty much out of the question.
From the things I see in chat it is evident that some people see poker as a huge pissing contest and take pleasure in insulting one another and generally being disrespectful. If this is how you perceive poker then perhaps it is "un-Christian".

However, I personally do not see anything ethically incorrect about profiting from game as a result of your skill, where all parties are aware of, and accept the rules of the game. The bigger ethical issue seems to be that while you are playing cards you aren't really giving anything back to society.

Originally posted by w34z3l

.........The bigger ethical issue seems to be that while you are playing cards you aren't really giving anything back to society.

This was actually another point I was going to add. Working is encouraged in the scriptures. I can't remember exactly where this comment is but I do know that God Himself says that if a man does not work then let him not eat. We are also counselled to go and "take a look at the ant" and imitate the way it works i.e. both hard and incessantly.

I still feel that poker exploits a weakness in your opponents and, scripturally, we are encouraged to aid people who have weaknesses, not fleece them.

There is nothing there in black and white that says we can't play poker. However, the christian teachings sure do make it morally wrong. People who claim to be active christians, yet also play poker, need to have a word with their own conscience concerning this matter. If their conscience allows them to do it then I will not argue. After all, it's not me they have to answer to later on, is it?

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I did my part educating the history newbs around here .

The bigger ethical issue seems to be that while you are playing cards you aren't really giving anything back to society.

Here I can contradict. We do give something to the society.

I can start by asking what does a musician give to the society? How about a professional football player? They offer entertainment and emotions. So what we do is the same, this: we sell emotions, good and bad, to those that choose to play. We entertain and we are payed for that.

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by bohemiagrove

Originally posted by OZSA

Originally posted by MatejM47
I think you should ask your priest this question. I doubt you'll find many experts on religion here

I'm no expert of religion, but I can say what its for. Giving hope for the non-thinker, strength for the ignorant... for the rest of the ppl, its just bullshit

Saruniks, I say you should just play poker till christ or god (whoever you believe in more) will come after you, hey he might sit down on ur table once... ♦

You are idiot and I can prove you worng in 1000 ways.
KGB Brain washed thast what you are.Ask me if you need to know how wrong are you and how bad are you for humanity...mr.IDONTLIKE to read books.

You can't prove god exists neither can we prove that it doesn't exist. However why should we provide proof for something that has never been proven to exist?
It's like saying the flying spaghetti monster is real.. Prove me otherwise..

I'm not looking for an argument.. I just think it's strange for you to get so mad when you know you can't prove what you believe is real. Just let it rest.

watch the video or start to read books.you know is not my fault that you guys don't read.....

Originally posted by bohemiagrove
Give 7 min of your time and get educated i hate to see people who don't think before they go against religion.You need to read books guys realy...7 min and YOU WILL SEE.

I watched the video, and i have read multiple books including big parts of the bible and i don't see your point. Your argument is "read a book guys really..."

typical religious nutcase