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Originally posted by dangermowse
Since the day I posted this thread:
115 buy-ins and not the tiniest sign of stopping there.
I like how you lose 115 buy-ins in 57 tournaments. You must be running really bad.
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Originally posted by dangermowse
Since the day I posted this thread:
115 buy-ins and not the tiniest sign of stopping there.
I like how you lose 115 buy-ins in 57 tournaments. You must be running really bad.
Lol either posted wrong graph or more likely so frazzled from this life that I added a digit somewhere.
Originally posted by Genkidesuka
Originally posted by dangermowse and yet my overall ROI is perfectly ok, way above the average rakeback reg.
So wait.
You're making as much money, in the long run, as you'd like to, but short term swings are a problem for you? Even though to run at good roi you need to have some pretty sick upswings to make up for the downswings?
I dun ged it
No I'm not making anywhere near as much money as I'd like to. I have already emphasised how I have no clue how my ROI evens out because I almost NEVER have upswings. By and large I think most of it has been made up in 18 and 180 mans I've played in the last 12 months. I am 35% over my last 1k 18 mans which you could say is running fairly well, but they're so spread out with other games it's hardly been noticable. Obviously 1k over a year is sweet fa and isn't going to be noticable. And for the 180's, every single set I've played I've suffered the sickest beats say 21 out of 22 games or something, but I've WON the 1 remaining. Not just FT's but won. When I do get to a FT my rate of getting in the top 3 or heads up is damn good, but it comes with a million beats on all the other tables, so it is REALLY hard to see you're winning. Today I've had a little half arsed attempt at some MTT's, entered the $22 SCOOP and was playing very well when this hand occured:
The 9 was a great card cos with likely hands of T9, JT and QJ calling that flop bet, then the 9 increases the chances he's drawing with his stupid donk bet and is still likely to call my shove getting no odds at all, which he does, and well hello river not seen the likes of you before 
Poker Stars, $20 + $2 NL Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds, 10 Ante, 9 Players
MP1: 9,630
MP2: 9,251
CO: 9,478
BTN: 11,604
SB: 10,710
BB: 13,177
UTG: 8,968
UTG+1: 8,960
Hero (UTG+2): 5,630
Pre-Flop: (240) 
dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
2 folds, Hero raises to 225, 4 folds, SB calls 175, BB folds
Flop: (640) (2 Players)
SB bets 300, Hero raises to 900, SB calls 600
Turn: (2,440) (2 Players)
SB bets 300, Hero raises to 4,495 and is All-In, SB calls 4,195
River: (11,430) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 11,430 Pot
SB showed and WON 11,430 (+5,860 NET)
Hero showed and LOST (-5,620 NET)
Then the $3r, we're down to 150 odd players from the usual 6000 or more, I'm doing pretty well, being quite active taking down pots regular, then I make this soul read call which is by no means an easy call and that's that! Awesome effort and skill down the fucking drain to a 26%er.
Poker Stars, $3 + $0.30 NL Hold'em Tournament, 5,000/10,000 Blinds, 1,600 Ante, 8 Players
BB: 155,591
UTG: 209,655
UTG+1: 217,472
MP1: 290,633
MP2: 192,936
CO: 291,521
BTN: 165,804
Hero (SB): 196,965
Pre-Flop: (27,800) dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, MP1 raises to 22,000, 2 folds, BTN raises to 164,204 and is All-In, Hero raises to 195,365 and is All-In, 2 folds
Flop: (373,208) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (373,208) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (373,208) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 373,208 Pot
BTN showed and WON 373,208 (+209,004 NET)
Hero showed and LOST (-159,204 NET)
I experience only shit on full tilt. I will defo stay on stars. I finally found value for low stake player like me. All I have to do is to unite my BRs into one. Jumping from one site to another didn't help me much in past and being silver and above will offer me definitely more value..
Even though. My last hand was so fucking typical even on stars. I run like hell for first two hours in my session. Then suddenly I've lost every hand where I was ++. Like this one. I have 33 I raise 2.5 get raised rather big and calling just because I got value from one double limper. Now flop is 376 and just knowing what 3bet guy has I bet 1/2 pot with intention to get it in just on the flop. This guy of course shoves. I call. He shows QQ hand gets to river where he catches Q and I am again swearing like hell. Unfortunately this is typical for both sites. From these two I am inclined to trust more Pokerstars as they won't put you for one year long and counting losing streaks but let you win once for a while.. I wish they were more like Europoker, where RNG seems to be above average. Not sure if every site on Merge is that good but I wish to think so and in future will try them all..
Gl anyway bro. Don't let Full Tilt rob you no more and play your best game. You're doing good so far so keep it up!
Originally posted by mattisks
I experience only shit on full tilt.
I should change the thread title really as it's not just aimed a FTP, it's anywhere, really.
Full Tilt used to be my absolute saviour from Stars. On my 330 buy-in downswing in late 2009 I switched to FT and turned my $400 roll into $4k in just a few months. This was mostly playing 90-mans as it wasn't worth my while playing shallower games as I didn't get rakeback. I seemed to run really well in the 90's hitting a record amount of royal flushes and quads in a short space of time. Then when the cashback was introduced it was my chance to take my run good to the STT's. OMG was that a BIG mistake! Cue a 165+ bi swing that is still running right now, except I hardly play there lately. So I decided obv I run like hell in those I should stick to the 90's, but as everyone knows now the volume in those is totally killed by the new ROD SnG's. I really regret not just playing 90-mans like a lunatic 10 hours a day from 2009 onwards as shark365 showed it was easy to make $100k a year. Now that's nigh on impossible and doubtful it will ever return 
you know better than me 
I am just saying..
I always ran better anywhere else. Only site that is connected with me losing significant amounts is full tilt.. And the latest runs just says to me that something is pretty much wrong. I thought in the past that Party is really on top of those rigged. I stood in one tourney against two Royals and one Quads. In one tourney. That time I was able to dodge them but when it was happening all the time I finally ended up losing my tiny $50 BR there and never came back. Lately I saw my mom playing there and nowadays seems fine.
Stars sometimes are odd but that's probably variance and RNG that just looks strange and can make those spewy runs of totally dead boards, cards etc.. But from all sites I've ever been on, apart from Devilfish's Full Tilt is the most oddestest site and I will always be working on killing them every possible way I can. They don't deserve to exist ♠_biggrin:
Updated I am now down 100bis for May. After 4 months of my red line being almost double the green every single month across all accounts, I am obviously due a 100bi downsing for May....right? I mean that makes sense does it not? FMFL!!!!!!!!
i can suggest that you keep yourself from loggin into your fulltilt account for a week or two (or longer if u can lol) and see what happens. ♦
If you feel you are running bad on FT stop playing there. At least this is what I also intend to do. FT is defo riged for me too.
Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
How can FT be rigged?
cos they don't win, ergo it is rigged
Originally posted by bennisboy
Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
How can FT be rigged?cos they don't win, ergo it is rigged
coz we losing against odds longterm*..
* I was close to insult you in any way..
♠_cool:
On Pokerstars on Europoker I play the very same game that I apply on Full Tilt. I am able to win and cash in tourneys, cash games and when I go to Full Tilt. There's nothing but bad beats ranging from 2-15%. Yes. I play with edge when I go to the river. Usualy. So..
Tell me how it is possible to lose every single fucking made hand that you have?
Originally posted by mattisks
Originally posted by bennisboy
Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
How can FT be rigged?cos they don't win, ergo it is rigged
coz we losing against odds longterm*..
* I was close to insult you in any way..
♠_cool:
On Pokerstars on Europoker I play the very same game that I apply on Full Tilt. I am able to win and cash in tourneys, cash games and when I go to Full Tilt. There's nothing but bad beats ranging from 2-15%. Yes. I play with edge when I go to the river. Usualy. So..
Tell me how it is possible to lose every single fucking made hand that you have?
There is no proof that FT is rigged.
Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
Originally posted by mattisks
Originally posted by bennisboy
Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
How can FT be rigged?cos they don't win, ergo it is rigged
coz we losing against odds longterm*..
* I was close to insult you in any way..
♠_cool:
On Pokerstars on Europoker I play the very same game that I apply on Full Tilt. I am able to win and cash in tourneys, cash games and when I go to Full Tilt. There's nothing but bad beats ranging from 2-15%. Yes. I play with edge when I go to the river. Usualy. So..
Tell me how it is possible to lose every single fucking made hand that you have?
There is no proof that FT is rigged.
there is no proof of anything for that matter. It is as it is. Put all your money there and start posting your bad beat stories..
Originally posted by dangermowse
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Originally posted by dangermowse
Since the day I posted this thread:
115 buy-ins and not the tiniest sign of stopping there.
I like how you lose 115 buy-ins in 57 tournaments. You must be running really bad.
Lol either posted wrong graph or more likely so frazzled from this life that I added a digit somewhere.
Your BI is avg. of $20.71, so you're actually down 21.35 BI.
Sorry if my math's wrong, just want to help out
Good luck at the tables!
hee haaaw Just been playin on ftp.. My 1.8. I played like a donk. Caught guy on flop had KK vs QQ lost to Q. In tourney AQ vs J7 on flop Q32.. Should I continue?
Got lots of serious coolers but overall kicked asses Just last two hands I decided to burn my money so I went 50-50 and TT vs JJ Been bullied. Shoulda sitout next time 