[Closed] Getting so fn boring!! FU FULL TILT!!!

Originally posted by SickAtHome

Originally posted by dangermowse

Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz

Originally posted by dangermowse
Since the day I posted this thread:

115 buy-ins and not the tiniest sign of stopping there.

I like how you lose 115 buy-ins in 57 tournaments. You must be running really bad.

Lol either posted wrong graph or more likely so frazzled from this life that I added a digit somewhere.

Your BI is avg. of $20.71, so you're actually down 21.35 BI.
Sorry if my math's wrong, just want to help out

Good luck at the tables!

I've realised what I meant now. 115 bis at that time was my total downswing since January.

It is now 175 bis for SINGLE FUCKING TABLE FUCKING TOURNEFUCKINGMENTS!!! IMPOSSIBLE IMPOSSIBLE IMPOSSIBLE!!!

Just reminding people (especially the OP) of a few points:

1) In order for losing players to exist there HAVE to be winning players... The rake the room takes will be the same whether you or the other player (who must be worse than you...) win the pot.

2) Even if there is a 0.001% chance that your emotional state does not affect your judgement too seriously, there are enough players on these sites that statistically such occurrences are not that unlikely to happen to some of them. Statistically it would make no sense if these didn't happen.

But seriously, you said so yourself: you know no other reg with that big a downswing..... and none of the rooms have any reason to target YOU specifically for termination.

3) the poker rooms have a lot more to lose! They win huge amounts of money from rake JUST from people playing there. They have a vested interest in keeping players happy. Not making them feel dissatisfied. Also, they would risk EVERYTHING by rigging it. Doesn't make any sense.

Finally, their rng is under strict supervision and you'd have to claim that the supervising authority is in on it too... and create a conspiracy theory just to explain your bad shape.

Most importantly though.... in the next post

To the OP:

(continuing my previous post)

Most important of all, however is realizing that we're human, and that there is no real chance that a big downswing will not affect us emotionally and interfere with our ability to think, thus making us increase our own downswings and prolong them by thinking less rationally.

The consequence of that is that whether you were a bad, good or very good winning player before a very big downswing, any claims about your game after it has ravaged your mental state will probably no longer be true, and most probably your results are being seriously affected by your emotional state (which is evident in your posts).

Also, you seem to rely solely on HM (and of a few hands you posted...) for saying you're on a huge downswing. More hands won't help either... HM is not an automatic leak finder for SNGs, nor was it ever meant to be. Some good player/coach (pokerstrategy coach maybe?) looking at your database can help a lot.

Ego won't help either. Like saying that any average player would have been destroyed by such a downswing, for example... is just making sure you cannot progress and go through it. Progress and learning can only be accomplished by recognizing that MANY of our losses are largely due to bad play by us, EVEN during a downswing.

Just learn, improve, find your leaks, use a coach, videos, other very good players if necessary, and hopefully you'll find yourself a much stronger player, with shorter downswings.

I wish you the best of luck!

Ty for the contribution but fyi I don't tilt. I used to maybe 1yr+ ago but becoming so used to bad luck you learn not to tilt.

In response to your "not rigged" post, well no one can make any real claims for or against. RNG's can be designed very easily to produce ACTION and be so called "proven" to be random with their chosen testing procedures. It is very much in the best interests for sites to make incredible stuff happen to keep the fish in the game. I can compare slightly with live cards in that I've finished itm almost 50% of time for 2 years at my local club tournament that sees anything from 25-45 players every game. 50% itm for a MTT SnG for well over 100 games. Real cards it's possible, online riggaments? It's not.

Originally posted by NoOneSpcl

3) the poker rooms have a lot more to lose! They win huge amounts of money from rake JUST from people playing there. They have a vested interest in keeping players happy. Not making them feel dissatisfied. Also, they would risk EVERYTHING by rigging it. Doesn't make any sense.

Finally, their rng is under strict supervision and you'd have to claim that the supervising authority is in on it too... and create a conspiracy theory just to explain your bad shape.

Most importantly though.... in the next post

It was the same with US players. It was their interest to have a legit business there to keep them an get more rake but they chose to try to get more money by avoiding taxes. So they might try other stuff too.

Damn when i saw that graph i feel really bad lol if 175 bi on STT :OOOOO????!?!?!? i have like 100bi for my lvl guess its not enough

Originally posted by Albeback

Originally posted by NoOneSpcl

3) the poker rooms have a lot more to lose! They win huge amounts of money from rake JUST from people playing there. They have a vested interest in keeping players happy. Not making them feel dissatisfied. Also, they would risk EVERYTHING by rigging it. Doesn't make any sense.

Finally, their rng is under strict supervision and you'd have to claim that the supervising authority is in on it too... and create a conspiracy theory just to explain your bad shape.

Most importantly though.... in the next post

It was the same with US players. It was their interest to have a legit business there to keep them an get more rake but they chose to try to get more money by avoiding taxes. So they might try other stuff too.

they for sure do! BUt there is no proof as they say I play stars and when I play good I win. Easy as that. When I play whatever I play on Full Tilt. I lose.. That's proof for me

At the risk of agravating you, im gonna question your opinion of yourself being a good player. I really mean no insult, but in that hand you posted, what kind of a hand do you expect to call your shove ? You have a top pair with good kicker, on a board where zillion hands could have more. So, be angry all you like, but if you play like that...say goodbye to those 9% ROI.

LOL any Jack any draw, exactly what called me will call. Hand is standard brah.

from what ive heard DM. your game is quite solid. but that redline is pretty disturbing. its still really really sick and probably one of the worst EV differences ive ever seen. but your ev line since Jan shows me are struggling to be a BE player in these games.

I know these are STs and the edge is quite low to begin with. but you probably have a lot of leaks that you should be focusing on.

epic thread

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
from what ive heard DM. your game is quite solid. but that redline is pretty disturbing. its still really really sick and probably one of the worst EV differences ive ever seen. but your ev line since Jan shows me are struggling to be a BE player in these games.

You have heard of coolers I presume lesson? That is what stops the red line rising. Like thousands upon thousands upon thousands. I would say I see AA showdown vs my shoves probably 4-5 times than you will see in a day. As a very rough estimate I run tino AA/KK over 20 times a day. And you can't run 9% over 15k or so games on one site and be a losing player on another.

I know these are STs and the edge is quite low to begin with. but you probably have a lot of leaks that you should be focusing on.

I presume ST stands for single tables not super turbos? mmm well if sippin and glitlr can't find any, be my guest if u think u can find some

I can see a 2 big leak in the hands u posted. 1 don't over play A's high hands you go broke very quickly, ok u where head pre flop but AQ can been dominated so easily is worth going broke with when you are very close to a big pay out I would have folded it but I wasn't playing so can't say for certain as I don't know how the villain was playing.

2 don't over play top pair hands on draw heavy boards as again you only get call be better hands and hand like the villain had top pair plus OESD, he thinks he's in front but has plenty of out if not. I would have played check call and folded to a shove on the river if he made 1 as it would be obvious what hand he held at that point. If I had been in the villains position I would have called your ship as I have a good chance to stack you with out going broke.

Look at the board texture and don't ship it with just top pair or A's hand play in a more controlled way play for small er pot on those boards as their is always another hand to play and relax and ask your self would I have made the all in call with his hand if you say to your self yes then then you know you made the mistake with the push.

Sorry if my post seams a bit blunt but I've been where you are and thought like you are thinking at the moment but if u sit back and look at it when you feel relaxed and not stressed you will see more of your errors and be able to fix them.

Any poker player who says they have no leaks in there game is just deceiving them selves.

No sir it doesn't seem blunt, it just seems teacher egg sucky. Those hands aren't even close to bad, they're played fine and are extremely standard. Top pair is 90% good vs fish leading into flops who are defending their big blinds. The turn does not improve any hand and he leads out the precise same amount. 2 pair/sets hardly ever ever play this way. I'm presuming you have 30k+ tournies under your belt to be experienced enough to know that however.

Thanks for the input tho, I certainly don't believe I'm leak free by a long chalk.

EDIT: oh and Lesson in addition to my reply to your post, my red line is 6% for the $24 sample. I'd be pretty darn satisfied to be a 6%er at that stake.

A lot more than that but at the moment I am play mainly cash games as I've found them to be more profitable and just play the occasional MTT for a bit of a change now. But I do think you should move away from FT as it does suck when playing SnG.

I meant supers. These are normal turbos as well?

oh so this is just your sample from FT ?

do you mind posting your lifetime graph from these other sites where you run @ 9% ? im not trolling, im seriously interested in comparing them and seeing the ev difference and sample size etc.

can you post this FT graph in BIs please? and the other in BIs as well?

Soz post is wide so u can see numbers easier.

There are no supers in that graph at all, simply all $12-$60 turbos STT's. The graph I posted looks almost identical in bi's. I don't have lifetime anything unfortunately as my HEM only goes back so far since it was inaccurate due to summary problems and all that crap. I have some stuff from last year for FTP but only this year for pokerstars.

This is my STT sample for this year on Stars.

Here's an interesting comparison for FTP, however. Everything before the downswing but it's not huge sample and only goes back to about November.

ALL HANDS PRIOR TO DREADED 20th JAN DOOMSWITCH ACTIVATION

$12

$24

$36

And a sample of 8 $60 for $600 lol.

yeah FT is definitely rigged. move up to the 60s imo

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
yeah FT is definitely rigged. move up to the 60s imo

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