Originally posted by Yoghi
Sites should really not care too much about the regs, they don't deposit in general so the site will never make money from them.
Well that is kind of true yes so I do not understand the logic of operators/sites listening to them then
I seems to get loads of comments on this autofold thing, let's talk about poker in terms of bluffcatching.
Lately i have been noticing (statistical & feeling) that I get played back a lot which means I just have to take it easy in my coming sessions. I mean I should be playing 19/18 now since it will fucking work.
In this hand, I was really going to calldown with my eyes closed but then I didn't :/
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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($193)
BB ($100)
UTG ($115)
UTG+1 ($136)
Hero ($216)
BTN ($106)
Dealt to Hero 4♦ 6♦
fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, BB calls $2.50
FLOP ($7.50) 7♦ 4♣ J♠
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8
TURN ($31.50) 7♦ 4♣ J♠ 2♠
BB bets $21.62, Hero calls $21.62
RIVER ($74.74) 7♦ 4♣ J♠ 2♠ Q♦
BB bets $38.16, Hero?
Villain: 21/16, 7% 3bet - 458 hands
tablestarter and perceives me as being a 31/27 lagtard retard so he can play back
AFq 37%, AF 4.8, c/R flop 2 out of 10, WTSd 36% (59), WWSF 44% (59).
Significant history to back it up.
The Riverspot would make things strange as I was prepared to call a shove but he bets 50% of his stack. Would I still close my eyes and call?
Ahww Today was pretty interesting day. I could wake up at the time I wanted to opposed to yesterday so I got up at 10:30-11:00 which gives me a lot of time to do stuff.
I basically did my routine with the exception of the 2nd evening half which was reserved for Arsenal - Udinese 
Luckily they won, Gervinho assisted & played really well. Also Arsenal GK stopped a penalty.
Meanwhile I couldn't stop 2 tables that I still was playing due the fishiness so I played 2-3 tables along with watching the game (productive ay?) wrong. I made several errors which costed me stuff.
IT was also the first session in this period that I decided to play 200NL only. For analysis sake I also recorded it and decided to play 4 tables only. Man o man that was intense opposed to 6. More control, more reads, more dynamics but... hourly sucks ![:]](https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/emoticons/pokerstrategy-legacy/basics/pleased.gif ":]")
Anyways it was a big step for me as I followed TLN's advice to combat scared money a bit. The issue now is that I get a bit on shy-tilt whenever I make a stupid/costly mistake on my new limit. I can just feel the heat inside me boiling for a few seconds.. not good!
Furthermore this situation I am in here also doesn't benefit my Zen mind at all, I just have to review my options here and it will be all good
Not sure what the results was of today's session but I had a few learning points.
I also learned more by studying a specific vid about databases which I made 3 A4s notes of. Also worked on my dynamics which got things covered for the coming 10k hands vs Regulars.
Oh and by the way my parents got a chihuahua dog, I forgot to mention ♦ He is pretty cute but still a bit naughty. He is also like 1year old. not sure if it is really a chihuahua since he has more hair so probably a mix of race
and looks like this:
now i'm off to bed , i'm exhausted
thats kinda a mix chiwawa, they are cuter mixed anyway!!!!!
one thing's fo shure, pets are cute, their poop is not! enjoy ! ♦
Originally posted by Gerv
I seems to get loads of comments on this autofold thing, let's talk about poker in terms of bluffcatching.Lately i have been noticing (statistical & feeling) that I get played back a lot which means I just have to take it easy in my coming sessions. I mean I should be playing 19/18 now since it will fucking work.
In this hand, I was really going to calldown with my eyes closed but then I didn't :/
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($193)
BB ($100)
UTG ($115)
UTG+1 ($136)
Hero ($216)
BTN ($106)Dealt to Hero 4♦ 6♦
fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, BB calls $2.50
FLOP ($7.50) 7♦ 4♣ J♠
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8
TURN ($31.50) 7♦ 4♣ J♠ 2♠
BB bets $21.62, Hero calls $21.62
RIVER ($74.74) 7♦ 4♣ J♠ 2♠ Q♦
BB bets $38.16, Hero?
Villain: 21/16, 7% 3bet - 458 hands
tablestarter and perceives me as being a 31/27 lagtard retard so he can play back
AFq 37%, AF 4.8, c/R flop 2 out of 10, WTSd 36% (59), WWSF 44% (59).Significant history to back it up.
The Riverspot would make things strange as I was prepared to call a shove but he bets 50% of his stack. Would I still close my eyes and call?
i think its too thin to bluffcatch him here. ofc his range is very narrow here. c/r flop 2 out of 10 is very small. but still on the flop he just represent 77,44,JJ.. preflop he would 3b JJ and because have a blocker he will have only 77 but thats only 3 combinations.
i do like a CiB here on the flop since he cant withstand a min3b here with a hand like 88,99. what are we gonna do on the turn if he calls our min3b? it depends on the turn. since he is c/r and calling our min3b on the flop he will have a madehand than a drawing hand. we can follow alot of turncards.
but as played i see so many busted draws in his range T8,T9,89,56
since you know that the player likes to playback and keep pressure on the turn and river, why are likely to call down with bottom pair?
Yeah aggressive methods are better with btmpair
but do you agree with this then?
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NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($200)
BB ($484)
Hero ($259)
UTG+1 ($366)
CO ($203)
BTN ($274)
Dealt to Hero A♠ Q♦
Hero raises to $7, fold, fold, BTN calls $7, fold, fold
FLOP ($17) T♦ Q♠ 6♣
Hero bets $11, BTN raises to $34, Hero calls $23
TURN ($85) T♦ Q♠ 6♣ 3♦
Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero calls $50
RIVER ($185) T♦ Q♠ 6♣ 3♦ A♦
Hero checks, BTN bets $100, Hero calls $100
(Effective stacks were 168$ on River so he had $68 left)
Or do you also advocate shoving it in on the Turn?
Same stats only he perceives me as pretty loose pre as he shipped AJs into me as a 4bet shove
I was reviewing my hands and watching the match and suddenly I jumped out of my chair and was like OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH WHAT A FUCKING BEAUTY GOAL OOOOOOOH
I think I caught everyone's attention outside since my window was wide open ♦
We dominated 5-0 though
Schalke aka Huntelaar doing fine with 5-1 
and other teams I have put some money on
Champions league Q was a very good day yesterday for betting$ 
@ TwiceT: lol at your goalkeeper geBAUER! 
:f_biggrin:
Sick, sick goal. Both Dutch teams tonight have been crushing pretty hard, was great to watch.
Interesting hands you posted Gerv, gonna think about these hands for a bit. Probably gonna wonder about your love for bottom pairs while I'm at it. 
Originally posted by Gerv
Yeah aggressive methods are better with btmpairbut do you agree with this then?
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NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($200)
BB ($484)
Hero ($259)
UTG+1 ($366)
CO ($203)
BTN ($274)Dealt to Hero A♠ Q♦
Hero raises to $7, fold, fold, BTN calls $7, fold, fold
FLOP ($17) T♦ Q♠ 6♣
Hero bets $11, BTN raises to $34, Hero calls $23
TURN ($85) T♦ Q♠ 6♣ 3♦
Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero calls $50
RIVER ($185) T♦ Q♠ 6♣ 3♦ A♦
Hero checks, BTN bets $100, Hero calls $100
(Effective stacks were 168$ on River so he had $68 left)Or do you also advocate shoving it in on the Turn?
Same stats only he perceives me as pretty loose pre as he shipped AJs into me as a 4bet shove
is he raising alot of flops IP? i mean he raised your cbet and continues on a pretty dry turncard ( a lot of BDFD can continue here) c/c turn and river seems to be very difficult since you are OOP.
your line here is very weak but he will know that you have a hand thats not sooo strong.. im very unhappy to play this manner since we have no more initiative on later streets. but i do like a calldown here.
hard to answer it... but as he just bet more than halfpot on the river... i dont give him any set, backdoorflush and a straight on the river because he would shove it with those hands obv.
the question here is can we c/shove or c/c here? i think a call here is fine because we do expect worse 2pair here... and worse Qx like KQ,QJ btw, the only hand that would play like that manner is Qx or QT i dont see a reg isnt shoving with a set or with the nuts on the river against a laggy player.
gg
i strongly believe that a c/shove on the turn isnt good because the only hand that youve beat is a backdoorflush or 98dd,J9dd,KJdd thats it. but for me its a fold.. i play very nitty if im OOP ♦
hmm..if you say it;s agressive then when he just call you already can put him on hands like KQ, KJ, QJ, pairs lower then 88 AT MAYBE A9, suited conecters also. on the flop when he raise it's preaty easy from my point of view, it's two types of hands there:
the hands you are favorite there: AT, KQ, QJ, straight draw almost never a bluf here very small chance to put him on a bluf
the hands you are crushed: here's interesting you can't put him on QQ preflop because if it's aresive he will 3-bet also with TT, so there will be only 66 ( trips on the flop )
i like just to call here because if you reraise he will fold alot of the hands you are ahead,
the turn it's almost the same you have to call if you shove i think he can still fold some hands that you can beat and you want him to bet the river with those hands.
the river complet just a straight rarely a flush so you have to call.
i like the way this hand was played but i'm just a fish yet.
Seems 2/4$ and $1/2 are alike! easy money
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NL Holdem $2(BB)
SB ($410)
Hero ($209)
UTG ($203)
UTG+1 ($120)
CO ($200)
BTN ($340)
Dealt to Hero K♦ Q♣
fold, UTG+1 calls $2, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $9, UTG+1 calls $7
FLOP ($19) A♦ J♠ T♣
Hero bets $14, UTG+1 calls $14
TURN ($47) A♦ J♠ T♣ K♣
Hero bets $21, UTG+1 raises to $44, Hero raises to $67, UTG+1 raises to $97.18 (AI), Hero calls $30.18
RIVER ($241) A♦ J♠ T♣ K♣ 6♠
UTG+1 shows 5♠ A♠
(Pre 60%, Flop 7.8%, Turn 3.4%)
Hero shows K♦ Q♣
(Pre 40%, Flop 92.2%, Turn 96.6%)
Hero wins $237
Originally posted by TobyCS
i want to see u taking shots at 5/T soon
Only if scout wants to play atm ♦
Man o man finding time is scarce! Loads of stuff happening except some stuff I was really hoping for
I will come back to that later since there are loads of replies here which ofcourse creates discussion!
Check spoilers for the quotations:
Originally posted by r4zor
Originally posted by Gerv
Yeah aggressive methods are better with btmpairbut do you agree with this then?
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($200)
BB ($484)
Hero ($259)
UTG+1 ($366)
CO ($203)
BTN ($274)Dealt to Hero A♠ Q♦
Hero raises to $7, fold, fold, BTN calls $7, fold, fold
FLOP ($17) T♦ Q♠ 6♣
Hero bets $11, BTN raises to $34, Hero calls $23
TURN ($85) T♦ Q♠ 6♣ 3♦
Hero checks, BTN bets $50, Hero calls $50
RIVER ($185) T♦ Q♠ 6♣ 3♦ A♦
Hero checks, BTN bets $100, Hero calls $100
(Effective stacks were 168$ on River so he had $68 left)Or do you also advocate shoving it in on the Turn?
Same stats only he perceives me as pretty loose pre as he shipped AJs into me as a 4bet shove
is he raising alot of flops IP? i mean he raised your cbet and continues on a pretty dry turncard ( a lot of BDFD can continue here) c/c turn and river seems to be very difficult since you are OOP.
your line here is very weak but he will know that you have a hand thats not sooo strong.. im very unhappy to play this manner since we have no more initiative on later streets. but i do like a calldown here.
hard to answer it... but as he just bet more than halfpot on the river... i dont give him any set, backdoorflush and a straight on the river because he would shove it with those hands obv.
the question here is can we c/shove or c/c here? i think a call here is fine because we do expect worse 2pair here... and worse Qx like KQ,QJ btw, the only hand that would play like that manner is Qx or QT
gg
i strongly believe that a c/shove on the turn isnt good because the only hand that youve beat is a backdoorflush or 98dd,J9dd,KJdd thats it. but for me its a fold.. i play very nitty if im OOP ♦
Our range is kinda capped on the Turn logicwise due the fact we should c/R QT/66 or K:dJ:d, A:dJ:d on the Turn. I do not see another way to play this hand except:
With the riverspot I think c/shove is really thin. Question is if he bluffs with this sizing ever (or bets with worse) opposed to shoving.
I think he shoves flushes but can bet with straights/sets here since my logical range (Qx, QT) is kinda scared of this Ax so shoving might work the other way around.
Again this really depends on tendencies. On the one hand this A:d looks like a pseudo-scare card => then people are more willing to call = curiosity
And you have A:d = scare card => People are less inclined to call a big bet with Qx or whatever they have
I didn't mention spazzraise if BTN bets really really small.
Against this VIllain, it was the first time he raised me in this spot which also is a levelling thing: do Villain try to bluff you the first time they pull out something or are they starting it for value.
hmm..if you say it;s agressive then when he just call you already can put him on hands like KQ, KJ, QJ, pairs lower then 88 AT MAYBE A9, suited conecters also. on the flop when he raise it's preaty easy from my point of view, it's two types of hands there:
the hands you are favorite there: AT, KQ, QJ, straight draw almost never a bluf here very small chance to put him on a bluf
the hands you are crushed: here's interesting you can't put him on QQ preflop because if it's aresive he will 3-bet also with TT, so there will be only 66 ( trips on the flop )i like just to call here because if you reraise he will fold alot of the hands you are ahead,
the turn it's almost the same you have to call if you shove i think he can still fold some hands that you can beat and you want him to bet the river with those hands.the river complet just a straight rarely a flush so you have to call.
i like the way this hand was played but i'm just a fish yet.
I think he ain't raising QJ/KQ there as they will just blow up the pot & their hand. AT is possible but I think it is more polarized than de-polarized.
Weee I still have 10 minutes to type!
Surprisingly when I mentioned Maastricht, I didn't knew Mbml was going to study there for 1 term. Matter of fact he is in Amsterdam now and I didn't know 
Im looking forward to meet him on Monday as it is going to be an enriching experience qua poker for me and he will just do all the crazy Dutchman stuff ♦
On 1st of September I got to really know if I can go to Dublin. There were vacant spots in Business with Psychology at Dublin Business School and looking at their curriculum, it looked pretty practical. Reason i do not study Psychology as 1 main study is that it looks too theoretical and is pretty broad.
Obvious combined with business, we are talking about behavioral economics/business which is just plain mindfucking your customer to buy more (eg. Go Large for 1euro more at the local McDonalds/Burger King; it costs them like 10 pence to make a large coke & frites and they earn 1 euro from ya WHILE the customer thinks he just made a good deal . genius )
Furthermore I also applied for LIberal arts in Maastricht which is something i really have to consider and put effort in to succeed. I have to write an essay about how , why I want to study there which is a really good excercise for me
Pokerwise; 200NL is becoming more of my main limit, still profits are meager there but I think I should stick to learning more things rather than direct profits. At the same time I (ab)use 100NL for profits People see me as retarded there anyway so I just have to fuck 200NL players over to get the same effect ♦
if anyone wants a cool drinking game, watch 51st State and you have to drink everytime either:
Youre welcome
Galvin/Mbml just left the building, we did some non-poker things as in doing some casual dutch stuff (nothing illegal tho!) and showing him the city.
Later on we discussed some hands I played before and hands we played during our sweat. he wasn't really in the mood of playing so I played on 3 different sites at some point ♦
And also at some point we just played without a HUD, looks pretty refreshing but unfortunately it was at Stars where you will see a different kind of competition namely the softwarenits & supernova grind0rss 
We also pwned people in Team fortress 2 where we found out that free TF2 accounts cannot trade with me unless they bought something from the store 
I would say stay tuned to his blog as he will post some pics
Originally posted by Gerv
Galvin/Mbml just left the building, we did some non-poker things as in doing some casual dutch stuff (nothing illegal tho!)
I thought everything was legal over there . lol
