[Closed] NL10 - KK against A on the flop

I would bet 1$ on that flop. On the river I would bet/fold 1,5$

I'd have bet a little bit more on the flop.

Concerning your questions, I agree with all your guesses but question 2.
After he checks turn and river, showing a lot of weakness I don't think you're beaten (but you maybe :P), I'm willing to make a valuebet on the river, I may still be called by smaller PP.

Thanks guys!

Why would you bet more on the flop? I've been trying to keep both continuation bets as well as protection bets at around 3/4 of the pot (OK then it would have been 80 cents

Bet/fold river makes sense, I guess I'm just too scared of flushes when people start calling me down with a two-suited board. Of course, that same fear should have led me to bet the turn, so...

On NL 10 it probably isn´t so much difference, but for example on NL 25 SH people see these kinds of bets weakness and would min-raise+ you also have to protect against flush and possible straight draws.

Originally posted by epaga
3/4 of the pot (OK then it would have been 80 cents

Yeah, $0.80 would be OK, maybe even a little bit more... $0.90-$1, you bet $0.70 there, that's less than 2/3 of the pot.

$0.10-$0.30 more doesn't seen to be a lot, but this is NL10, so it's actually 1-3BB difference.

Originally posted by Kaitz20
On the river I would bet/fold 1,5$

Why bet so small? You'll only get worse hands to fold, and every A, T or flush is calling, right? I guess 1 or 2 small pairs are calling, but I doubt it... wouldn't it be better to just check behind?
It's what I tend to do on these kinds of boards where I have like 2nd / 3rd pair or the board is dangerous (well there's the occasional bluff, but it's rare). Is it correct, or have I just found a big leak in my game? ♦

Since I checked turn, pp might call also. T, A or flush should bet out on the river. If the player is tricky, check behind is also fine, you can´t stand here even check/min-raise. By betting 1,5$ I don´t bet for bluff, but for value.

dont bet the river

as sayed by swiss "and every A, T or flush is calling"

#at epaga
I agree with all your guesses but i want to point out

1. Should I have bet the turn? (My guess: yes)

This really depends how loose this people are calling
If they have to much Ace/rag in there range your
raise gets -ev if they are floating with a lot hands
like small pairs and highcards if is more + eV

All together it is a very marginal play vs unkown, that will only be
slightly +ev, if at all.

And it will push our variance.

Vs a huge callstation it is +EV but this guy
must call ~ >65% of all contibets.

OK, so Cojack, if I get you right, you'd say my turn check wasn't necessarily wrong, since I personally rather lean a bit more toward pot control (and thereby also less variance) than toward protection.

I didn't really have clear reads on this guy at this point, it was early at the table and I had no stats. But at this level, I have sent PLENTY of people calling raises with Ace rags, so that's kind of what I was a bit afraid of.

Since this thread is checked by a judge now, guess what he actually had: 52o.

Yeah. My thoughts exactly.

Originally posted by Kaitz20
On NL 10 it probably isn´t so much difference, but for example on NL 25 SH people see these kinds of bets weakness and would min-raise+ you also have to protect against flush and possible straight draws.

Don't ya even dare to assume the general level of play at NL25 is higher than at NL10.

Originally posted by SonicXT

Originally posted by Kaitz20
On NL 10 it probably isn´t so much difference, but for example on NL 25 SH people see these kinds of bets weakness and would min-raise+ you also have to protect against flush and possible straight draws.

Don't ya even dare to assume the general level of play at NL25 is higher than at NL10.

With you all the way ♦ ♦