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[Closed] NL4 - QQ vs. preflop 3-bet

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epaga
Joined: 05.03.2005

Another hand pretty early in the game, so virtually no reads on the guy other than the fact he isn't calling every hand, he's folded maybe 6 out of 10 hands at the table.

1. Should I have shoved preflop instead of called?
2. Different flop line? C/C? C/F?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.04
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with Q♣ Q♥
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.08, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, 3 folds, MP2 raises to $1.08, Hero calls.

Flop: 9♦ 4♣ J♥ ($2.28, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $3.8, MP2 calls all-in $1.3.
Uncalled bets: $2.5 returned to Hero.

Turn: K♠ ($4.88, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $4.88)

River: 4♦ ($4.88, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $4.88)

Results:
Final pot: $4.88


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Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

Wihtout reads I'd fold PF after he reraises you.


epaga
Joined: 05.03.2005

Yeah I was wondering about that. So, rule of thumb: fold QQ to a 3-bet unless you have clear reads on the guy having a maniac tendency? Of course if everybody did that, I'd be 3-bet bluffing all the time.


Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

You could also call if stacks were deep enough hoping to flop a set.


Originally posted by epaga
Yeah I was wondering about that. So, rule of thumb: fold QQ to a 3-bet unless you have clear reads on the guy having a maniac tendency? Of course if everybody did that, I'd be 3-bet bluffing all the time.

Do that 3 times and I have a read on you that you got a maniacal tendency ...


His reraise, if we take for granted that he is a reasonable player(at this level a very risky assumption), puts him on AK, QQ+.
Equilator gives QQ against this range, 40,2% or 1,5 :1, for pot odds of
1,42:1. I would call as the implied odds are good enough .The flop did not hit so c/f.


Thorsten77
Joined: 28.05.2006

I don't like calling OOP - it just sucks. For me its a 4-bet or fold. In this case, I'd shove preflop as he has a small stack. Against a solid BS, I may fold.