[Closed] Triple donked today! :'(

Originally posted by janushr
no,it doesnt...i play every day 50-100 tourneys,i know my BRM(I never deposited money in online poker,i am just here to collect it)and i sure did played enough(imo at least 30k tourneys or more over 20+ rooms),but still IT DOESNT ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!i ll reapeat it;WHO IS RESPONSIBLE THAT ALL SHUFFLIN COMES CORRECT AND WHERE I CAN TURN SOME SITE TO BE CHECKED??AND THAT I RECIVE RESULTS FROM THAT CHECKING??'i think that a lots of us is playing online poker with our funds(doesnt matter you play 1$ or 100$ tourneys)and we dont have a slightless clue what is going on...and this guy who said i am fish results oriented in 10 stg,please,disproove me with results,cause its impossiblle to have 5 of 10 bad beats ie.. aa vs kk,qq vs 33,ak vs at,aa vs at,kk vs 25....i had 70,80% advantage,and lost all 5???and you find that normal??YOU ARE A F... FISHIZILLA WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT STATS,RESULTS AND MATHS!!!!you are probably that bingo player who doesnt even know hands strangh in first place,just put it in and hope for the best...go learn the game and then you can come back and give some talk about it...anyhow,thats not my point,my point is this what i asked speccificlly;WHO THE F.. IS OVERLOOKING THE GAMES AND HOW I CAN GET SOME RESULTS AND BE CALM,after all,i am coustomer,too...reason i am asking is that i already tried and asked few questions,and look the wonder,i NEVER get any answer with results,all you can get is some page that is "MONITORING" them and there says;all is fine and correct...somebody else tried it??somebody ever checked it with site and supoort or w-e??i will happy to hear some people who succeed in this and have some answers and results????ANYBODY WHO CAN DISPROOVE ME AND SAY;here,i get this,you are idiot...then,i can admitt i am wrong....anybody who plays decent amount of games,imo,must come to point where he asks himself is this really possiblle???and thn,poker room should answer asap some results and show me;here,its all fine,here is the results,you can check it for yourself and check for yourself...i personally dont play for high amounts specifficlly for that reason,i should invest 100$ in a single game and then multtable 10,12 table,and i cant check results and feel secure???i am sorry,until i have proof(that means when i ask for some check,it comes on my mail instant!!!)my opinion is that nobody from you ever checked and you take results for granted,and you play with your money in insecure enviroment(look just on FTP) and all players should be able to see all what ever they want,if they play at that page...and i will kindly ask some maths whizz,who is more able then me and my friend FISHZILLA,to answer me;WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR A PLAYER TO LOSE 5 OF 10 STG ON THIS WAY MENTIONED ABOVE???thanks in advance for all answers...then we can carry on with this conversation.....and michelle,straight answer i asked,not some psyho crap,i am well over it,i am just unhappy to lose so often from some rubissh hands and i feel they are stoling my money more the they should...IMO,if all games are played fair and by the numbers,ALL POKER ROOMS WILL SOON RUN OUT OF BUISSNESS CAUSE OF LACK OF FISH(that straight means LESS BUISSNESS FOR THEM!!!)...

Hi Janushr,

First and foremost, I must warn you about your tones in the above post. We do not specifically allow anyone to use foul language or to belittle/bemoan other members of the site.

I understand you are feeling down from your current Poker results and that is completely understandable. However, I will not allow you to attack other members of the forum, or allow other members of the forum to attack you.

So I am warning everyone in this thread to politely calm down. I won't accept it any further so be very careful in what you chose to write from now on. If it continues I will just close the thread immediately.

Now, to get to your questions.

Can you tell me, which Poker site you are currently experiencing bad luck at and I will try to find link you to some RNG certification, where it will put your mind at ease.

Kind regards,
Gary

hello,michelle:)i said i was sry if i was understood,that my inttention isnt to insult anybody,i was just sarcastic about his comments of type;grow up...who is he to tell me also that??the topic is WHO IS OVERLOOKING THE POKER ROOMS??thats my main goal,and all what i wrote was in that direction...and i wasnt trying to judge some hands,i was just trying to get info,if there is any,i seriously doubt it...you can check,i will be happy for your help and assistance:)room is SMART LIVE POKER on ONGAME skin...but,i am interested who is overlloking any room,and yes,i was trying to get some info,all i get is some page where they said,yeeah,we check it,alll is fine??LMAO,nice job:)i want you to answer me,and whole people here;WHO GARANTEE THAT ALL IS FAIR AND LEGAL??IF DOESNT,WHO CAN DO ANYTHING??POLICE??INTERPOL??WHO??or there is sad truth that nobody garantee anything and if pokerrooms are tempering with RNG and numbers,we can kiss their a...and still do nothing:)can you admitt that all this is just GRAY ZONE and that first attemps we all see how it passed with FTP,yeah,he is only one making something bad,all others are just exccellent:)thats why they are registered on some remote island,and fairness and players happiness is on their first place;)LMFAO:)i am sry,i dont buy it... i play more then enough of my share over a lots of rooms and i can say that i have some expirience on what i say,and i will stick to my statment;if all the things runs fair and regular,in three months there will be just 30% players left!!!!!!!!!!!and on end,can you show some results when you bring some answer,not something like i mention above;all is nice and fine,wrote from some commission from kawahankake or kaluae island???do you know where that is at all???and thats just 3 or 4 people...we ll see what will happend with FTP and missing 150MIL,explain how nobody will ever see their money back,from simple reason,there isnt any authorithy to bring it back...in america they just stopped them cause they was messing with goverment taxes(we all know how al capone went down:),not cause making fraud with players money;PPL,THEY DONT HAVE POWER TO BRING IT BACK(i had 200$,my friend had 2,5k,and so on and on)and if tommorow happens same with MERGE,lets say,you can also kiss their a..me too,dont get me wrong:)and nobody can do nothing??am i saying anything wrong???we are all gaving our money to someone who we dont know and who is far away(most important not under the law,only under the law of some forgotten island:)and if something went wrong,say good bye...THATS THE TRUTH OF POKER MARKET....

and again,sorry to that guy,i wasnt trying to insult you personnally,just sarcastic,but anyway,sry if i offended you:)and yeah,i must admitt,that some of this things isnt the case at POKERSTARS,if you ask,you can get plenty of info,even i just played 1k tourneys there...what is true,its true:)

Hey again,

Unfortunately, we are not affiliated with that room so I have no further jurisdiction in this matter. You could always ask them for a link to their RNG certificate and I am sure they will assist you.

I hope you can understand that it would not make sense for Poker Rooms to con you, make bad things happen to you etc. They want you to play there, end of. Since the inception of Online Poker there has always been a great debate as to whether it was rigged or not, someway or another. Up until this point, nothing has been proved to say it is.

If you don't believe me, the Poker sites or anyone else for that matter then I guess it would be better for you not to play? Would that not make sense? I mean, if you're not totally convinced your being treated fairly, why play at all?

Kind regards,
Gary

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Originally posted by janushr
no,it doesnt...i play every day 50-100 tourneys,i know my BRM(I never deposited money in online poker,i am just here to collect it)and i sure did played enough(imo at least 30k tourneys or more over 20+ rooms),but still IT DOESNT ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!i ll reapeat it;WHO IS RESPONSIBLE THAT ALL SHUFFLIN COMES CORRECT AND WHERE I CAN TURN SOME SITE TO BE CHECKED??AND THAT I RECIVE RESULTS FROM THAT CHECKING??'i think that a lots of us is playing online poker with our funds(doesnt matter you play 1$ or 100$ tourneys)and we dont have a slightless clue what is going on...and this guy who said i am fish results oriented in 10 stg,please,disproove me with results,cause its impossiblle to have 5 of 10 bad beats ie.. aa vs kk,qq vs 33,ak vs at,aa vs at,kk vs 25....i had 70,80% advantage,and lost all 5???and you find that normal??YOU ARE A F... FISHIZILLA WHO DOESNT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT STATS,RESULTS AND MATHS!!!!you are probably that bingo player who doesnt even know hands strangh in first place,just put it in and hope for the best...go learn the game and then you can come back and give some talk about it...anyhow,thats not my point,my point is this what i asked speccificlly;WHO THE F.. IS OVERLOOKING THE GAMES AND HOW I CAN GET SOME RESULTS AND BE CALM,after all,i am coustomer,too...reason i am asking is that i already tried and asked few questions,and look the wonder,i NEVER get any answer with results,all you can get is some page that is "MONITORING" them and there says;all is fine and correct...somebody else tried it??somebody ever checked it with site and supoort or w-e??i will happy to hear some people who succeed in this and have some answers and results????ANYBODY WHO CAN DISPROOVE ME AND SAY;here,i get this,you are idiot...then,i can admitt i am wrong....anybody who plays decent amount of games,imo,must come to point where he asks himself is this really possiblle???and thn,poker room should answer asap some results and show me;here,its all fine,here is the results,you can check it for yourself and check for yourself...i personally dont play for high amounts specifficlly for that reason,i should invest 100$ in a single game and then multtable 10,12 table,and i cant check results and feel secure???i am sorry,until i have proof(that means when i ask for some check,it comes on my mail instant!!!)my opinion is that nobody from you ever checked and you take results for granted,and you play with your money in insecure enviroment(look just on FTP) and all players should be able to see all what ever they want,if they play at that page...and i will kindly ask some maths whizz,who is more able then me and my friend FISHZILLA,to answer me;WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR A PLAYER TO LOSE 5 OF 10 STG ON THIS WAY MENTIONED ABOVE???thanks in advance for all answers...then we can carry on with this conversation.....and michelle,straight answer i asked,not some psyho crap,i am well over it,i am just unhappy to lose so often from some rubissh hands and i feel they are stoling my money more the they should...IMO,if all games are played fair and by the numbers,ALL POKER ROOMS WILL SOON RUN OUT OF BUISSNESS CAUSE OF LACK OF FISH(that straight means LESS BUISSNESS FOR THEM!!!)...

and this:

Originally posted by janushr
hello,michelle:)i said i was sry if i was understood,that my inttention isnt to insult anybody,i was just sarcastic about his comments of type;grow up...who is he to tell me also that??the topic is WHO IS OVERLOOKING THE POKER ROOMS??thats my main goal,and all what i wrote was in that direction...and i wasnt trying to judge some hands,i was just trying to get info,if there is any,i seriously doubt it...you can check,i will be happy for your help and assistance:)room is SMART LIVE POKER on ONGAME skin...but,i am interested who is overlloking any room,and yes,i was trying to get some info,all i get is some page where they said,yeeah,we check it,alll is fine??LMAO,nice job:)i want you to answer me,and whole people here;WHO GARANTEE THAT ALL IS FAIR AND LEGAL??IF DOESNT,WHO CAN DO ANYTHING??POLICE??INTERPOL??WHO??or there is sad truth that nobody garantee anything and if pokerrooms are tempering with RNG and numbers,we can kiss their a...and still do nothing:)can you admitt that all this is just GRAY ZONE and that first attemps we all see how it passed with FTP,yeah,he is only one making something bad,all others are just exccellent:)thats why they are registered on some remote island,and fairness and players happiness is on their first place;)LMFAO:)i am sry,i dont buy it... i play more then enough of my share over a lots of rooms and i can say that i have some expirience on what i say,and i will stick to my statment;if all the things runs fair and regular,in three months there will be just 30% players left!!!!!!!!!!!and on end,can you show some results when you bring some answer,not something like i mention above;all is nice and fine,wrote from some commission from kawahankake or kaluae island???do you know where that is at all???and thats just 3 or 4 people...we ll see what will happend with FTP and missing 150MIL,explain how nobody will ever see their money back,from simple reason,there isnt any authorithy to bring it back...in america they just stopped them cause they was messing with goverment taxes(we all know how al capone went down:),not cause making fraud with players money;PPL,THEY DONT HAVE POWER TO BRING IT BACK(i had 200$,my friend had 2,5k,and so on and on)and if tommorow happens same with MERGE,lets say,you can also kiss their a..me too,dont get me wrong:)and nobody can do nothing??am i saying anything wrong???we are all gaving our money to someone who we dont know and who is far away(most important not under the law,only under the law of some forgotten island:)and if something went wrong,say good bye...THATS THE TRUTH OF POKER MARKET....

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hey,gary:)why didnt you answer my question;who is responsible for overllooking poker sites and in case of fraud,who can do something to them??nice and simple question...you can answer for sites affilated to PS:)i presume,you have that information:)

Originally posted by fryandspicy
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Originally posted by janushr
hey,gary:)why didnt you answer my question;who is responsible for overllooking poker sites and in case of fraud,who can do something to them??nice and simple question...you can answer for sites affilated to PS:)i presume,you have that information:)

I believe black friday a few months back dealt with any problems related to illegal ongoings of poker sites. The US apparently has enough moles in the poker sites around the world to know everything that goes on in them, if not right away, then at some point.

Also, do you have any idea how much money successful gambling websites make? Ridiculous amounts. My friend tried to start up a Rock Paper Scissors gambling site and had business projections of profits and everything assuming they only had 100k people playing ONCE per day, they made an assload of money.

The point is, it would be a very, VERY, VERY high risk, low reward scenario for a poker website of any level of considerable success, to do anything illegal like rig games. Like, we're talking CEO's have to be high, and drunk 24/7 and maybe about 19-23 years old to be dumb enough to try to rig their own games...

And to answer your question, the government of each individual country is responsible. In America, the FBI arrested the owners of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker during the "Black Friday" incident.

Refrence link from a reliable source

PS Don't presume or assume things.

Originally posted by janushr
hey,gary:)why didnt you answer my question;who is responsible for overllooking poker sites and in case of fraud,who can do something to them??nice and simple question...you can answer for sites affilated to PS:)i presume,you have that information:)

Basicially,

You're above posts are walls of text and completely impossible to decipher. I also think vanderveen89 has now suitably answered your question ten times better than I ever could.

If you are still fully unsure about anything else, please try asking one question at a time, I'm only human after-all. It might be easier for me and others to answer if you get to the point in your posts and not having such a long-winded view.

All the best,
Gary

Originally posted by vanderveen89

Originally posted by fryandspicy
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I entirely agree. Didn't even look at them...

Originally posted by janushr
hey,gary:)why didnt you answer my question;who is responsible for overllooking poker sites and in case of fraud,who can do something to them??nice and simple question...you can answer for sites affilated to PS:)i presume,you have that information:)

I believe black friday a few months back dealt with any problems related to illegal ongoings of poker sites. The US apparently has enough moles in the poker sites around the world to know everything that goes on in them, if not right away, then at some point.

Also, do you have any idea how much money successful gambling websites make? Ridiculous amounts. My friend tried to start up a Rock Paper Scissors gambling site and had business projections of profits and everything assuming they only had 100k people playing ONCE per day, they made an assload of money.

The point is, it would be a very, VERY, VERY high risk, low reward scenario for a poker website of any level of considerable success, to do anything illegal like rig games. Like, we're talking CEO's have to be high, and drunk 24/7 and maybe about 19-23 years old to be dumb enough to try to rig their own games...

And to answer your question, the government of each individual country is responsible. In America, the FBI arrested the owners of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker during the "Black Friday" incident.

Refrence link from a reliable source

PS Don't presume or assume things.

you know what BLACK FRIDAY is at all???they was just scaminn with taxes,so get in troubles...no action is ever going to happend to them cause 150 mil is missing...individual country??kahwanahke island is country??population??you know where that is??can you explain me,please...THE POINT is that nobody check them,if they do,PLEASE,SEND ME LINK FOR THAT(that means you dont pressume and assume things,if you have some solid stuff,bring it on),so CEO can do what ever he wants,we dont know that sure...i was wondering why most sites is on some far away island,prolly for suntening;)..and USA WORRY ONLY FOR TAX FOR HERSELF,NO REGULATION AT ALL HAPPEND AND THEY DONT CHASE ANYBODY...you wanna bet that nobody will ever see FTP money(so much about USA regulation)...i put my 200$...

gary,gary,i asked nice and polite,why you dont answer...i asked you as rep of PS,you have enough rooms to give some info...you can read my question again and give answer!!!

and i hear rumors that all poker rooms coming to america.cause is now fraud free there,thats what they all want:)LMAO...

Originally posted by janushr
gary,gary,i asked nice and polite,why you dont answer...i asked you as rep of PS,you have enough rooms to give some info...you can read my question again and give answer!!!

Hi Janushr,

After extensive research on my part I hereby link you to some of our affiliates RNG Certification.

- PokerStars
- Cake
- Full Tilt
- PKR
- William Hill
- Poker770
- Party Poker

If, after reading those, you disbelieve the Poker Rooms integrity when it comes to hosting games in a fair manner I really don't know what to say.

I hope you find the above links satisfactory nonetheless.

Kind regards,
Gary

Originally posted by janushr
you know what BLACK FRIDAY is at all???they was just scaminn with taxes,so get in troubles...no action is ever going to happend to them cause 150 mil is missing...individual country??kahwanahke island is country??population??you know where that is??can you explain me,please...THE POINT is that nobody check them,if they do,PLEASE,SEND ME LINK FOR THAT(that means you dont pressume and assume things,if you have some solid stuff,bring it on),so CEO can do what ever he wants,we dont know that sure...i was wondering why most sites is on some far away island,prolly for suntening;)..and USA WORRY ONLY FOR TAX FOR HERSELF,NO REGULATION AT ALL HAPPEND AND THEY DONT CHASE ANYBODY...you wanna bet that nobody will ever see FTP money(so much about USA regulation)...i put my 200$...

Troll, GTFO this is my thread, go make your own. I'm dead serious.

hi,gary,i see that this goes nowhere,i want make any more remarks...only is he alowed to tell me GTFO??nice and polite,thanks:)what you want,debilu,is that smartest answer that you can think off...i will wrote anywhere where i want:)and you can go f.. yourself(i didnt started first,just respond to his nice gesture:)

Right guys,

I'm closing this thread now.

Once again, I am going to have you remind you of our forum principles once again and politely warn both of you that we won't accept this kind of behaviour.

Kind regards,
Gary