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NL 3$, KQo in BB, freeplay and 2TP on turn

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wlcKeD
Joined: 24.02.2009

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NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
SB ($5,450) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 2.5, Hands: 24
Hero ($5,490)
UTG ($5,250)
UTG+1 ($2,600)
UTG+2 ($4,740)
MP1 ($14,850)
MP2 ($4,415) - VPIP: 41, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 23
CO ($21,755)
BTN ($3,950)

Dealt to Hero K♠ Q♥

fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $200, fold, MP2 calls $200, CO calls $200, fold, SB calls $100, Hero checks

FLOP ($1,000) 2♥ Q♦ 9♣

SB bets $500, Hero calls $500, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $500, CO folds

TURN ($2,500) 2♥ Q♦ 9♣ K♥

SB checks, Hero bets $1,200, MP2 calls $1,200, SB folds

RIVER ($4,900) 2♥ Q♦ 9♣ K♥ A♥

Hero bets $1,500, MP2 calls $1,500

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Ks, Qh ]two pairs, Kings and Queens.
(Pre 64%, Flop 78.0%, Turn 77.3%)
MP2 shows [ 9h, 5h ]a flush, Ace high.
(Pre 36%, Flop 22.0%, Turn 22.7%)
MP2 wins 7,900 chips from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.

My thoughts: didn't raise pref because of so many callers, who will definitely not fold, and then I have to play OOP, but if there had been just 1-2 then I'd have raised, right?? Smooth called on the flop just to see where other opponents stand, ready to call one raise and reevaluate on turn, or fold if SB 3bets. Since no one raised, SB checked turn, and I improved to two top pair, also having outs for full house if JT got there, I decided to take a stab. And since SB folded and MP smooth called again, I have bet the river for value, thinking I have definitely the best hand, and can have some worse hands to call, no??? Was I thinking right overall? What could I have done better?


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Let me break this one down street to street.

Preflop I don't really like raising in many situations here. One, KQo flops pretty well so taking a flop is good for your hand. Two, no one limps to fold here and you will almost certainly be playing OOP in a bloated pot which is never good (unless it is just you vs SB).

On the flop I find it pretty odd that the SB bets but the flat is fine because you have a pretty strong hand and raising would be very bad so I lean call and think that folding would actually be better than raising here considering the # of opponents.

On the turn I would consider betting here for value at these limits. Checking isn't a bad idea because we have no idea what MP2 may have here (JT sometimes?). I lean betting but checking is ok as well.

Once you lead the turn I think betting river for value is fine. I'm hoping not to see A9 here when I look after I post this but most likely I am expecting to see KJ or QJ here. And once you put in this last bet you must be committed to it as well so maybe bet a little bit more.


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ha what is he doing not shoving river there.

lol didn't expect to see that one


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wlcKeD
Joined: 24.02.2009

Originally posted by AaronLambert
ha what is he doing not shoving river there.

lol didn't expect to see that one

I actually was wondering what is he doing around that poker table in general


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haha no questioning that thinking either


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Harnas31
Joined: 25.10.2010

Aren't this bets on flop and turn too small ?

Could we take a line: call flop and bet bigger turn , check/fold river
or
raise on flop 2x this aggro in SB just to take pot down ?

And preflop
in MP2 is a fish vpip 41, AF 0.5 with smaller stack.
If it was a TAG i wouldnt dare to raise , but fish limps with Ax ,Kx, Qx, Jx, any suited hand.
I would raise to 650.


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I assume you mean raise on the flop because raising preflop is out of the question here.

On the flop you could raise but then you are potentially building a pot against an unknown with very little info where you are. I would be more concerned with the opponent behind than the initial bettor. I call flop simply to know what the other opponent is going to do before I decide to put more chips into the pot.

On the turn he could bet more but not sure why he would. He got a terrible hand to call chasing 10 or so outs and he doesn't have odds to make that call considering he's only going to get there about 22% of the time or so. Given that fact and the fact he doesn't even play for value on the river leads me to believe this was good bet sizing. He could go a tiny bit more but I have no problem with it.


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