[Closed] BSS NL25 FR 44 on very ugly board

Preflop raiser probably has overcards or a high pocket pair, so I would reraise the flop and if he would raise again I would fold the turn, because he probably has a high pocket pair.

But than again I'm not that good at NL and didn't play it for a while, so this could be all wrong.

Sorry about my previous evaluation, it was very wrong ♦, I was tired.

i def would c/r the flop, on turn youre way behind even against 66 and on river any Q beats you... but after the third 5 dropped i would have played the same line

I would c/r the flop as well since he bets against 3 people, which means that he is much more likely to have a made hand, pocketpair, than 2 overcards. I don't think playing c/c both streets is that good since he's very likely to have a pocketpair which will beat us obviously. I think I would play bet/fold turn and then c/f river in this case

Easy check/raise on the flop with full house. and easy fold on the turn.

On the flop I slow played intentionally to get as much value as possible, so I´m not sure about c/r being the best line ( I´m not sure if slowplay is either)

On turn , Equilator gives for that board:

AQ+,TT+ - 55.5%
44 - 44.5% so the odds are very good to call, I think.

you need 5 players in the pot preflop to give you value to call , hoping to hit set

MP2 , would can put him on a range of hands ie AJ+ middle/big pocket pair and would check/raise flop

that turn card is about as bad as it can get and think you are beat and time to give it up

Originally posted by curnow
you need 5 players in the pot preflop to give you value to call , hoping to hit set

MP2 , would can put him on a range of hands ie AJ+ middle/big pocket pair and would check/raise flop

that turn card is about as bad as it can get and think you are beat and time to give it up

How do you mean you need 5 players preflop? As far as i know i always use the call 15/20 rule with small/medium pocket pairs. When i and my opponent both have 15 times the raise-amount (in this exemple hero and villains stack both have) in our stacks it's profitable to call. Besides, it's very unlikely that there will be 5 players in the pot on a 8-handed table. If you use the 5 player rule you would almost never be able to play a small/medium pair for setvalue...

Originally posted by raasz

Originally posted by curnow
you need 5 players in the pot preflop to give you value to call , hoping to hit set

MP2 , would can put him on a range of hands ie AJ+ middle/big pocket pair and would check/raise flop

that turn card is about as bad as it can get and think you are beat and time to give it up

How do you mean you need 5 players preflop? As far as i know i always use the call 15/20 rule with small/medium pocket pairs. When i and my opponent both have 15 times the raise-amount (in this exemple hero and villains stack both have) in our stacks it's profitable to call. Besides, it's very unlikely that there will be 5 players in the pot on a 8-handed table. If you use the 5 player rule you would almost never be able to play a small/medium pair for setvalue...

The probability of hitting a "set" on the flop is 10.8% or 8.26 to 1 against.
The probability of hitting quads on the flop, when holding a pocket pair, is 0.25% (about 399 to 1 against).
The probability of hitting a Full House on the flop, when holding a pocket pair, is 0.74% (a 133 to 1 shot).

playing small pairs you want value and if there are limpers you need 5 to 1 to get odds , in tournaments you can get it HU and take a 50/50 but in cash you want to win big pots after hitting set on flop and if you dont hit you fold

Because your chances of hitting a set or better on the flop with a pp are around 7,5:1, the call20 rule was created. You can go HU provided both have more than 20x the bet on their stacks

I bet/raise or c/raise such a flop often, as he may have a pocket like 88/99 which will go all the way... As played, the c/c turn is ok and I'd c/f the river.