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AQs 60$ 6m oop vs reg

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PetChoveka
Joined: 14.02.2010

BU is reg 24/21/5 with 34% postflop agg for 700 hands filtered

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NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($2,895)
BB ($1,215)
UTG ($1,350)
CO ($1,880)
BTN ($1,660)

Dealt to Hero A♦ Q♦

fold, fold, BTN raises to $125, Hero calls $100, fold

FLOP ($300) 4♣ 4♠ 6♠

Hero checks, BTN bets $138, Hero calls $138

TURN ($576) 4♣ 4♠ 6♠ Q♥

Hero checks, BTN bets $350, Hero calls $350

RIVER ($1,276) 4♣ 4♠ 6♠ Q♥ T♥

Hero bets $2,282 (AI),

Since he is likely to bet a huge part of his stack postflop with air i think that its ok to call pre and hide the strenght of my hand. Or should i 3b there?

Anyway the flop comes super low and its unlikely that it hits him so i think i`m often having the best hand here and i check call. Looks stupid now. What should i do here? He wont believe if i c/r and if i donk he is likely raising me here. Also check/calling looks stronger.

I turn Q and go on with the check/calling since i pretty much have the nuts there.

On the river all the draws miss and i was thinking that if he has any showdown value he will check behind. That way he will also see my hand and know that i`m flating AQs then and i`m calling the flop like that. Also he might think that i was drawing to something and call the rest of his stack with some junk. What do u think should i check and hope that he jams or its ok like that?


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elfigus
Joined: 12.08.2008

a good reg will not herocall you unless you are beaten here..

so unless he is capable of herocalling you with 77 88 99 JJ I don't think there will be so much value in shoving you stack, I'd prefer a c/c


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I would often 3bet preflop. Flatting just end up often in these tricky oop spots. In flop check-call is best, but it tend to get problematic, if villain is able to double barrel. I would either check-raise turn (also sometimes with air as oop float etc.) or if I check-call turn then I would check-call river as well or donk bet river smallish. That will give him two possibilities: Hero call with better pot odds or try to shove as bluff with some busted draw.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

3b for value vs 99% of 6mx reg's BU o/r range.

As played, I call also vs this tiny bet here. We cant ch/f just because we didn't hit A or Q or 2 diamonds. ch/R looks suspect - we obv rep nothing; we do we do if he 3bs?

Turn is fine; we want him to keep firing 98o on this overcard hoping we fold 77.

River: ch/c. His 3barrel range is nuts/air now so no value in ch/R. Lead/shoving takes away his ability to bluff and probably gets called only by QT/A4 etc. (Remember, he is checking behind 77-JJ on turn pretty often anyway so his turn betting range doesnt include so many river bluff catchers as you need.)


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

Originally posted by Tim64
3b for value vs 99% of 6mx reg's BU o/r range.

As played, I call also vs this tiny bet here. We cant ch/f just because we didn't hit A or Q or 2 diamonds. ch/R looks suspect - we obv rep nothing; we do we do if he 3bs?

Turn is fine; we want him to keep firing 98o on this overcard hoping we fold 77.

River: ch/c. His 3barrel range is nuts/air now so no value in ch/R. Lead/shoving takes away his ability to bluff and probably gets called only by QT/A4 etc. (Remember, he is checking behind 77-JJ on turn pretty often anyway so his turn betting range doesnt include so many river bluff catchers as you need.)

I like to underrep our hand from time to time against a reg here, for the rest I agree with Tim entirely.


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just 3bet pre for value. hes short and you need to develop a value/bluff 3bet range vs regs in this spot. if you arent including AQs in your value 3bet range then well... you see how bad that is.

i really dont think its OK to ever flat here because what would you flat the SB with vs a 25bb open ? nothing is ever going to be good playing oop vs a 25bb stack. just 3bet 100% of your range incl bluffs and value hands.

Tim's last sentence sums up why I dont like the river donk, he checks back SD value on teh turn so he doesnt have a lot of bluff catchers in his range, while you line looks pretty bluffy i dont think he actually has a hand to call you with very often, so i would just c to induce.


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