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Kruppe and Daphunk. Grinding NLHE many steaks! Pursuade Kruppe to post NL400+ HHs!

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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Good old Garth Merenghi! I have finished my exams now and just have to sort out some accounting and application stuff so should be able to start playing again shortly!

Thinking of doing a 30 BI BRM to start of with and very importantly cashing out half of my winnings when I start moving up limits. I didn't do this before which doesn't work well for me as I need my bank account buffer to feel safe. Poker bankroll does not feel safe.

Will update when I get started!


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

Ah, the crazy mark is returning, soon to strike fear into the hearts of his enemies with his unbelievable folds!

Kruppe has been experiencing some cashing out of the moneys and losing of the moneys at heads-up,
and has therefore had to play more no-limit thirty. He has now played nearly thirty thousand hands at
no-limit twenty and thirty, and has found that the micro-stakes are easy. Mister Merenghi will attest:


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

this month:
Been playing A LOT,
playing badly a lot,
getting horribly unhappy a lot,
playing HU a lot,
learning a lot, or so I believe, especially about HU, and thinking a lot about different ways of approaching decisions at the table.
Recently I've been making good progress in both BR and confidence.
I've also dug up one of my many schemes, this one from back in 2009 when I
played capNL, an idea I had for making money using my capNL skills in a slightly
different way. I never bothered to try out my scheme back then, but I am now
and it seems to be working extremely well. In fact, I've been hatching a new
scheme building on this scheme. (note: my schemes hardly every enjoy a degree
of success higher than minus 100%)

DaPhunk keeps saying he's going to start grinding to sustain his season in Jackson Hole, where I believe he arrived yesterday. Maybe he'll start this week.

Oh yes, and some hands. pretty sure this first one is just a fold preflop and flop,
but I decided to rep the Jackson Four:

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($103.18)
Button ($101.25)
SB ($124.96)
Kruppe (BB) ($231.18)
UTG ($57.76)

Preflop: Kruppe is BB with ,
3 folds, SB bets $2.50, Kruppe raises $8, SB raises $19, Kruppe calls $13

Flop: ($44) , , (2 players)
SB bets $33, Kruppe raises $83, SB raises $69.96 (All-In), Kruppe calls $19.96

Turn: ($249.92) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($249.92) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $249.92

Results:
SB had K, K (two pair, Kings and eights).
Kruppe had J, 4 (straight, Jack high).
Outcome: Kruppe won $245.92

This next one is against a bad, crazy reg:

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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SB ($221.56)
BB ($122.06)
UTG ($125.63)
Kruppe (MP) ($236.63)
CO ($57.86)
Button ($102.96)

Preflop: Kruppe is MP with ,
1 fold, Kruppe bets $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) , , (2 players)
Kruppe bets $4.75, Button raises $13, Kruppe calls $8.25

Turn: ($33.50) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $18, Kruppe raises $54, Button calls $36

River: ($141.50) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button checks

Total pot: $141.50

Results:
Button had A, 9 (high card, Ace).
Kruppe had A, J (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Kruppe won $137.50


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Xeonz123
Joined: 22.08.2011

Epic blog.


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Wassup guys! Finished exams and stuff so I'm back.

I am learning HU Cashgames and am going to grinding up from scratch for practice and experience! Amazingly I will start from NL2 and move up when I've won 20 stacks at the first couple of limits before switching to a more normal Bankroll Management probably starting at NL10 or NL25.

I intend to incorporate cashing out into my BRM plan an Idea I have stolen from the neat "Stairway to high stakes" I saw Darkzzz start using near the bottom of Page2 on his blog (Clicky if interested. When I get to more normal mistakes I might simply double or triple the figures used on it :)

My graph is pretty uninteresting atm due to me playing on NL2, will Post when it gets worth looking at

gl + hf at the tables yall!


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

new personal record cash-game day yesterday:

quite nice considering I was grinding NL20 6 weeks ago. conclusion: aggressive BRM is great if you are comfortable with it.
now some hands. As you may notice, I've developed a certain leak recently.

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No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Kruppe (CO) ($144.23)
Button ($104.50)
SB ($146.16)
BB ($100)
UTG ($139.75)
MP ($121.13)

Preflop: Kruppe is CO with ,
2 folds, Kruppe bets $3, Button raises $10.50, 2 folds, Kruppe raises $21, Button calls $13.50

Flop: ($49.50) , , (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $18, Kruppe calls $18

Turn: ($85.50) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button checks

River: ($85.50) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $62.50 (All-In), Kruppe calls $62.50

Total pot: $210.50
Main pot: $210.50 between Kruppe and Button

Results below:
Button had 10, 10 (full house, fives over tens).
Kruppe had Q, A (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Button won $206.50

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BB ($100)
UTG ($101.38)
MP ($178.33)
Button ($71.89)
Kruppe (SB) ($213.81)

Preflop: Kruppe is SB with ,
UTG bets $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, Kruppe raises $12.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: ($30) , , (2 players)
Kruppe checks, UTG bets $18, Kruppe raises $50, UTG raises $70.38 (All-In), Kruppe calls $38.38

Turn: ($206.76) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($206.76) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $206.76
Main pot: $206.76 between UTG and Kruppe

Results below:
Kruppe had A, J (one pair, fours).
UTG had K, K (two pair, Kings and fours).
Outcome: UTG won $202.76

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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MP ($199.70)
CO ($218.05)
Button ($100)
Kruppe (SB) ($109.12)
BB ($100)
UTG ($157.66)

Preflop: Kruppe is SB with ,
3 folds, Button bets $2.62, Kruppe raises $9.36, 1 fold, Button raises $19.38, Kruppe calls $12.14

Flop: ($45) , , (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $15, Kruppe raises $87.12 (All-In), Button calls $63 (All-In)

Turn: ($201) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($201) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $201
Main pot: $201 between Button and Kruppe

Results below:
Button had K, K (two pair, Kings and sevens).
Kruppe had Q, A (two pair, Queens and sevens).
Outcome: Button won $197


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($94)
SB ($150.42)
Kruppe (BB) ($100)
UTG ($109.46)
MP ($104.39)

Preflop: Kruppe is BB with ,
UTG bets $2, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, Kruppe raises $9, UTG raises $20, 1 fold, Kruppe calls $12

Flop: ($46) , , (2 players)
Kruppe checks, UTG bets $25, Kruppe raises $78 (All-In), UTG calls $53

Turn: ($202) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($202) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $202
Main pot: $202 between Kruppe and UTG

Results below:
Kruppe had Q, A (one pair, Aces).
UTG had K, K (one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Kruppe won $199

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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SB ($200)
Kruppe (BB) ($252.35)
UTG ($194)
MP ($213.10)
CO ($17.25)
Button ($212)

Preflop: Kruppe is BB with ,
3 folds, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Kruppe bets $7, Button calls $7

Flop: ($19) , , (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $19, Kruppe calls $19

Turn: ($57) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $57, Kruppe calls $57

River: ($171) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, Button bets $127 (All-In), Kruppe calls $127

Total pot: $425
Main pot: $425 between Kruppe and Button

Results below:
Button had 8, A (one pair, Aces).
Kruppe had 10, Q (straight, Ace high).
Outcome: Kruppe won $421

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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Button ($266.90)
SB ($276.37)
BB ($215.03)
UTG ($200)
MP ($292.72)
Kruppe (CO) ($291.57)

Preflop: Kruppe is CO with ,
2 folds, Kruppe bets $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Kruppe bets $9, SB raises $30.75, Kruppe raises $67, SB raises $239.62 (All-In), Kruppe calls $194.37

Turn: ($554.74) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($554.74) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $554.74
Main pot: $554.74 between SB and Kruppe

Results below:
SB had K, Q (one pair, Queens).
Kruppe had A, Q (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Kruppe won $550.74

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

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UTG ($485.22)
Button ($710.24)
Kruppe (SB) ($351.60)
BB ($365.38)

Preflop: Kruppe is SB with ,
UTG bets $6, Button calls $6, Kruppe raises $27, 1 fold, UTG calls $22, Button calls $22

Flop: ($86) , , (3 players)
Kruppe checks, UTG bets $50, 1 fold, Kruppe calls $50

Turn: ($186) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, UTG bets $90, Kruppe calls $90

River: ($366) (2 players)
Kruppe checks, UTG bets $317.22 (All-In), Kruppe calls $183.60 (All-In)

Total pot: $733.20
Main pot: $733.20 between UTG and Kruppe

Results below:
Kruppe had A, A (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
UTG had 3, 3 (two pair, Jacks and fours).
Outcome: Kruppe won $729.20


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erptech
Joined: 15.03.2008

Awesome.


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Frustrated, probably Tilted

Playing HU and not getting anywhere. It feels like I constantly get dealt shit cards and get stacked by uber retards who hit every time. I briefly started running well for a bit for today and instantly get luck-sacked by a random fish, starting timing out of the software and lost 5 stacks.

Maybe eventually I'll stop doing badly


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

edit: kruppe deleted strategy post due to not wanting to share strategy


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

Kruppe has been recovering from an affliction of the heads-up sickness. On tuesday he played nine thousand and five hundred hands at €/$NL50. Two sessions, the first around a thousand hands long, the second eight thousand hands and lasting fourteen hours and two thirds. The second session was so long because there was a player who played against Kruppe on two tables for over seven thousand hands of €NL50 before finally leaving.
The match ended at around 15:00 on wednesday. Kruppe slept, getting up at around three the next morning,
only to sleep again at around eight and get up at four this afternoon. Hopefully his sickness is now fully cured.

I have here a screenshot of the sessions tab, the graph for the whole day, and then graphs for the long match,
both from the opponent's perspective and the normal perspective.


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Why did you play someone for so long without having an edge?


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

i didn't. he was a big fish:
5% fold to 3bet over 7k hands despite me only 3betting 13% or so, i.e. only for value.
only folded to a 4bet ONCE out of about 50 times.
went through tilty phases of 3betting around 40% and to random amounts, anywhere between minimum size and 22bb. also went on monster-tilt for a while, but i was card-dead during these phases.
was extremely readable postflop with obvious bet-sizes, extremely fit-or-fold, extremely passive where he should be value betting, extremely stationy all around, etc. etc.

but it's still possible to lose over 7k hands if you run badly enough. the rake at NL50 is a big factor in that.


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Exactly, rake is important. Why you played such a long match against a run good fish is beyond me when you can just stack some other guys.

From my short HU experience I've learned that quitting while behind/not greatly ahead when you are not beating the house is a great skill.


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

edge-wise the match was fine, a dream-scenario even. what I regret about the match is how it affected me physically. even 6 hours or so before the end I was looking extremely pale, and at the end I felt terrible. I think my circulation was in a very bad state, as evidenced my the fact that after sleeping for 11 hours I only stayed awake for a few hours before sleeping another 8 ohurs.


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Yes, you're edge was huge, you felt great and results over 7.5k hands show how you exploited all his massive tells.

Say that out loud and check out how ridiculous it sounds!


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

it was only 7k hands, not 7.5k.
please pay attention.


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Hello There. I am still alive!

Basics -

1)
I have been playing BSS SH on an un-tracked site that I shall of course not name. Made a couple of hudnred by doubling an initial deposit playing some NL5, NL10, and a quick shot where I short-stacked NL100.

2)
Meanwhile I have been struggling with learning HU play at low-stakes on my other site. (Started with just $50) I started at NL2 and won a few buy-ins but then switched to learning HU Sng's to get lower rake. I also played some low-stakes Cash-Games

I ground my way up slowly to $95 on that site before getting doom-switched when I moved up from $1 HU Sng's to $2 HU Sng's. My roll plummeted back down $50, mainly due to losing many pfai's in the sng's with favoured hands

Now I have taught my firlgriend some of the basics of poker and the MSS and decided to try a little bit for fun. It went pretty good and it was great fun relaxing and not thinking so hard. Its only one session and I'm sure some people will laugh at me for posting but I'm rather happy with how well it went. Reminds me of the old days of being an SSS rake-back ho _biggrin:

Very tempted to keep playing MSS for a change and see how it goes. Going back to basics is actually rather fun.

Now we just need an update from Kruppe, will be a lot more exciting methinks.


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Hello, everyone. Small update.

I found I had $12 on Neteller and deposited on Stars to try out Zoom for myself. Here is my NL2 gaprth;

Here is my NL5 garpc;

Aaaaaaand, I'm running really really shit at NL10. At the end of the graph I lost QQ on Q84 board to KK. (river came up K and I had $4 left into $20 pot), and then I "tilted horribly" by getting QQ in preflop on BTN vs an SB resteal.

Not really any light at the end of the tunnel as far as NL10 is concerned so far. I'm just constantly running like shit and my Full Houses (and one Nut flush) are pretty much running into Quads. I've been Set over Setted 5 times in the last 10k hands and I don't even play any low PP's anymore.

Anywho, its all about winrate. The longer I can stretch out this shot the better it will be (more hands to lose the same amount = better winrate). Maybe I'll even start winning at some point. Looking at some of the variance calculators online its possible to have incredibly long break-even stretches even with a good potential winrate.

Anyway, thanks for reading. Good luck at the tables! (unless your playing me muahahahaha)


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