fuck you poker i quit

Originally posted by BoyRobot777
i've lost few stacks. sat down and played again. lost few stacks. waited a week. same shit. all the way down. Ofc when i had like 300 i wasnt playing by brm. who gives a shit when you have no money left for any normal limit to play. And on lower limits its just a bingo. People will shove any hands.

Or its insanly tight. Like waiting only for AA,KK...

This for me closes the topic.

Times ago I had to move back to NL2 twice not to go broke. Then from NL50 I had to go back to NL10 more than once. And now I'm almost back to NL50 with a healthy bankroll, thank you.

I'm no example of winning player (unfortunately) but this is just one more reason to respect BRM. If you play good your roll will go up in the long run (sometimes very long), there is no way out of it.

I've had more than one 20BI downswings, have ran 10BI or more below EV, etc. If you play with 25BI BRM for 6max and don't move down quickly you WILL go busto no matter how well you play.

Originally posted by Tarhonya
Hi,

Watching your PTR I came to the conclusion that you lack of self-discipline. This thread points that way too.

I'm not saying that you have to love something that you're doing, but you have to have discipline. Now, as I see it, you can go try forex, but with your mindset - not poker mindset, but mindset in general - most likely you'll fail miserable. That's it. I think you should work on that and continue poker since you're way closer to make money from it than learning forex.

No offense.

I lack discipline? I might just. But like i said i've been playing over 2 years now, i've manage to build up my rolls from free 50$ that pokerstrategy gave me. I havent put a single dime in poker my whole life. Its all made from my hard work and discipline. To come home, after university/job and still grind for hours in micro limits. I have the discipline, i just lack that X factor which would make me a super winning players with ROI of 12-15%

Originally posted by luizsilveira

Originally posted by BoyRobot777
i've lost few stacks. sat down and played again. lost few stacks. waited a week. same shit. all the way down. Ofc when i had like 300 i wasnt playing by brm. who gives a shit when you have no money left for any normal limit to play. And on lower limits its just a bingo. People will shove any hands.

Or its insanly tight. Like waiting only for AA,KK...

This for me closes the topic.

Times ago I had to move back to NL2 twice not to go broke. Then from NL50 I had to go back to NL10 more than once. And now I'm almost back to NL50 with a healthy bankroll, thank you.

I'm no example of winning player (unfortunately) but this is just one more reason to respect BRM. If you play good your roll will go up in the long run (sometimes very long), there is no way out of it.

I've had more than one 20BI downswings, have ran 10BI or more below EV, etc. If you play with 25BI BRM for 6max and don't move down quickly you WILL go busto no matter how well you play.

yeah. I guess that does make sense. I know it does. But for me, it seems not worth it anymore. Not worth to waiste another 3 months or even more by grinding super micro limits.

Well you`re not the only one who lost lots of buyins at christmas, I lost every big hand, and people get always lucky, but it`s poker you have to deal with that. -16bi+ doesn't look like christmas present for me but shit heppens.

Originally posted by BoyRobot777
I lack discipline? I might just. But like i said i've been playing over 2 years now, i've manage to build up my rolls from free 50$ that pokerstrategy gave me. I havent put a single dime in poker my whole life. Its all made from my hard work and discipline. To come home, after university/job and still grind for hours in micro limits. I have the discipline, i just lack that X factor which would make me a super winning players with ROI of 12-15%

So you had patience/discipline, but not anymore.

Edit: So I see you play sng...

wtf is wrong with that?

Originally posted by BoyRobot777

Originally posted by JazBenz

Originally posted by BoyRobot777
To JazBenz.

I see that you are a young guy full of hopes, "right" behaviour and what not. Keep up.

You use passion for argument, when the pot odds are only mechanical math. What passion has to do with me pushing in being ahead and losing? Passion can only give you will to do something over and over again, seek perfection, but not create "antibadbeat bubble". And i ran out of it when i face none ending stream of bullshit hands.

Greed is motive that drives a lot of people. Money gives you freedom to do anything you want. And i'm seeking freedom, not money or greed. And i see it as a valid motive.

Am not going to even comment on your view on forex. Its just plain stupid.

First of all, Im a girl with hopes and dreams. Second, my view on forex is stupid? Really? So I guess you dont give a shit that speculating on food prices drives up the price of food in the poorest countries on the planet and people have to spend 50% (!!!) of their income on food. Greed is a motive that drives a lot of people? Why the fuck do you think the world is in the state that it is in, because of irresponsible people who dont give a shit about anyone but themselves. Anyway, this is more about what doesnt work. Playing poker for the motive of greed, doesnt work. Luck will not be on your side. So yeah it is probably the best to quit poker.

Omfg, this is such a childish view. What do you do besides posting here to change any of that? Are you studing law or whatever to preserve or fight for those people rights? Do you try to change something in your country? You are as much pathetic human being as any other if you are just talking and not doing.

And secondly, why do people go to work? Why do they sit in their jobs from 8 to 8. Why do most people play poker after work/instead of work. Money, freedom. They want to make a better life for themselves and the people that are surrounding them. For their family. If you were poor, not educated girl, not raised in normal enviroment which NEEDS MONEY you wouldnt post here. The hippy era is over. There are ways to fight or help people who are in need only when you succeded and have power to do that, influence. You shouldnt blame me for all the shit is going on, you should blame people who have the power to change something and doesnt. So grow up. Yes huge hedge funds and banks fluctuate prices, and this crises is made by banks, BUT screaming in this forum you wont change anything. Go out there and foght instead of blaming in Pokerstrategy forum

I'm simply speaking up about what I view as irresponsible and disgusting and apparently it makes you feel guilty, otherwise you wouldnt be so defensive, but hey suit yourself, if you can live with this, speculating on food prices, full knowingly that you risk other people's lives, keep going.

But ironically you were the one who was talking about karma first and I am just telling you that you dont have to be surprised. I may not be able to fight against this in politics or law, because that is not my field, but I can still speak up against it. Even if its in a freaking poker forum. The hippy era is over, I see, so that is why people go on the streets everywhere demonstrating and standing up against tyranny. "the hippy" era as you call it, has only just begun. Oh and I not blaming anyone, but holding up a mirror to YOUR FACE. lol - now keep on doing what you do, seeing little kids starve in the back of your head.

Originally posted by JazBenz
I'm simply speaking up about what I view as irresponsible and disgusting and apparently it makes you feel guilty, otherwise you wouldnt be so defensive, but hey suit yourself, if you can live with this, speculating on food prices, full knowingly that you risk other people's lives, keep going.

But ironically you were the one who was talking about karma first and I am just telling you that you dont have to be surprised. I may not be able to fight against this in politics or law, because that is not my field, but I can still speak up against it. Even if its in a freaking poker forum. The hippy era is over, I see, so that is why people go on the streets everywhere demonstrating and standing up against tyranny. "the hippy" era as you call it, has only just begun. Oh and I not blaming anyone, but holding up a mirror to YOUR FACE. lol - now keep on doing what you do, seeing little kids starve in the back of your head.

Sorry for just jumping in, but I have to ask you what makes it right for you to actually look down on someone because of not helping starving kids when you're not doing anything at all either, in fact, you're just using them as an argument on a freaking poker forum? Please...

fuck this i am quitting to!

Originally posted by Tarhonya

Originally posted by JazBenz
I'm simply speaking up about what I view as irresponsible and disgusting and apparently it makes you feel guilty, otherwise you wouldnt be so defensive, but hey suit yourself, if you can live with this, speculating on food prices, full knowingly that you risk other people's lives, keep going.

But ironically you were the one who was talking about karma first and I am just telling you that you dont have to be surprised. I may not be able to fight against this in politics or law, because that is not my field, but I can still speak up against it. Even if its in a freaking poker forum. The hippy era is over, I see, so that is why people go on the streets everywhere demonstrating and standing up against tyranny. "the hippy" era as you call it, has only just begun. Oh and I not blaming anyone, but holding up a mirror to YOUR FACE. lol - now keep on doing what you do, seeing little kids starve in the back of your head.

Sorry for just jumping in, but I have to ask you what makes it right for you to actually look down on someone because of not helping starving kids when you're not doing anything at all either, in fact, you're just using them as an argument on a freaking poker forum? Please...

well the least i can do is SAY IT cant I? he was the one bringing up having bad karma, and I simply questioned his motives for poker and when he added forex i simply wondered if he is aware of what he does IF he speculates on food prices. My intention is to simply bring awareness on the issue and share my opinion which is, what you do in a forum. Edit: oh and I never critisized him for not helping starving kids. I critisized him for being part of the cause IF IN FACT HE DOES speculate on food prices.

OP do you really think you are so special that you have Such Bad Luck That No Man Has Encountered Before? Really?

BoyRobot777

just really want to point out one thing.

Casinos offer video poker - so you can be 101% sure that poker is
profitable and there is no relation whit luck or karma or whatsoever.

Or you believe they use lucky talismans in every machine ?

first step in fixing problem is to admit that you are doing something wrong =]

You are better off quitting, you have to be very lucky to win here.

dude, just QUIT. withdraw the remaining and QUIT! get a real job and play home games with your friends! if you say microstakes is bingo then you can't handle swings!
you went up in limits without the necessary skillz and got crushed. QUIT or you will waste more years earning pennies

I don't think I'll quit the game but the idea of grinding and taking poker serious has just been beaten out of me. Totally sympathize mate. Keeping to good BRM and I play mostly SnG. Been feeling down about poker for the last couple of months but this last week has sealed it.

Playing at Pokerstars now and beats are standard. More than happy with how I'm playing right now and rarely get it in bad, what more can you ask...right? The beats I've taken today have been a joke, I would laugh if I saw them on TV. Running straights against sets, just got taken out in 2nd (single table), top pair then turn and river gave donk trip 4s. To know what it feels like to run that lucky I guess you have to put yourself in those ridiculous spots. BS poker cliches give me no comfort.

Had dreams of working on my tilt issues (I can't/don't want to play after getting violated) and grinding away for a better BR, that's gone now. Play casually and hope I have fun for an hour or two. With luck getting it in good will allow my BR to hold at even. Wanted access to strategy material but I can't imagine really improving. May sound arrogant but it's rare I see a mistake and when I do, I give it a lot of thought. I think there's a roof to "skill" at this game; let's stop elevating the game out of proportion and let the chips fall where they may. Sure a player that knows the math, avoids the dangerous spots and recognizes questionable play (moves they're thinking of making or moves players attempt on them) probably won't go broke. Doesn't mean they'll be rewarded.

If all love is gone then quitting this the best plan. I still like poker but my eyes have opened a little wider.

Deezer, you are saying you almost always got the best hand. That's makes me think that maybe you are pushing to tight?

When you are feeling down about poker don't play!

When you get upset / Happy by a game it's a form of tilt.
It's just to face the fact badbeats happens.

what about recording a session when you play, and post it here for comments etc.

To JazBenz. Just search in google food vs population and read few articles.

- The population is growing. Its already 7 billions. And our planet isn't keeping up with such rates. And the number is growing geometrically (the more there is the more there will be). So either we kill off our planet with all chemicals trying to feed all, kill all species to build living houses for homeless or accept this. Yes, its easy for me to talk when its not me starving, but i got lucky as much as you did. And that's nature. You cannot control how much crops there will be next year.

And if you tried to feed all people in our planet, soon you wouldn't have anything to eat. The only thing that protects you is price, and that you/your parents can afford to buy it.

Btw there isn't enough jobs for everyone! How will they survive? If you want to make everyone equal in this life, start a revolution.

- Another thing. I don't beleave in karma just brought it up because i didn't know how to call it. I've changed it after that to X factor in poker. I don't beleave there is heaven or hell so i don't feel guilty for these things.
- Yes, there were people in streets demonstrating. And...? Did they achieve anything? Like i said. If powerful people won't start taking their side, they can demonstrate as much as they like. Either there has to be a revolution like in Egypt or big banks don't give a shit.

And i'm not haunted by images of little kids starving

One more thing. If you're such a huge fighter you know what you can do? Find few homeless people, bring them home and feed them. You can start by doing this. Come on, its easy, you don't have to go anywhere far, i bet there are plenty people to help in your city. Go on, grab few of them and bring them home. To live and eat with you. Please send photos of how you achieved this. If you don't - stay quite, because you act like a fuckin politician who wants to get more votes.

Originally posted by deVall3y
OP do you really think you are so special that you have Such Bad Luck That No Man Has Encountered Before? Really?

From where did you got that?

I didn't say i was one and only which has "such bad luck that no man has encountered before". I'm just saying i lack something i can't understand. And i have ran out of passion for this game. I believe there are more unlucky people and even more bad beats. I've read pros taking year of bad beats etc. But.. I've seen equally more achieved people who played even less than me.

Originally posted by idiopatic
dude, just QUIT. withdraw the remaining and QUIT! get a real job and play home games with your friends! if you say microstakes is bingo then you can't handle swings!
you went up in limits without the necessary skillz and got crushed. QUIT or you will waste more years earning pennies

I got a real job beleave me, i've taken the swings. But i guess i've played micro stakes for too long...

Originally posted by sausage646
BoyRobot777

just really want to point out one thing.

Casinos offer video poker - so you can be 101% sure that poker is
profitable and there is no relation whit luck or karma or whatsoever.

Or you believe they use lucky talismans in every machine ?

first step in fixing problem is to admit that you are doing something wrong =]

I am sure its profitable in the long run. Like i said in earlier posts, i've made money from first free 50$ of pokerstrategy. And its a game of patience. Huge amount of patience.

But i'm just bringing a wondering - if variance does exist. It cannot exist equally to all. Some has to be more lucky than others for some period of time. And lets assume our life or even 5 year period is way to short for it appear for some. There is no law for variance. Maybe a guy can flip a coin and it will come 80 times on one side and just 20 times another. And maybe that day can extend to even longer periods. Its VARIANCE. So thats what i want to say, that over few years, i didn't find myself in stable luck. Either i'm running neutral that means i'm not sucked out by villans or i'm running bad.

I got a solution for you , I turned 60 into 1200 in 3 months and 27 days on 888 poker, playing nothing but cash games and some mtt's, first freeroll i played there on my 2nd day I won 135$, anyways. I play NL 20/30 FR/SH. The play here is really shit, Crappy 4% rake back, but if you use the deposit bonus which they have every week or day, you get at least 20% with your VIP bonus it could reach 24%/29%, I advise you to continue playing since, some days I go on a 10 Buy In downswing Set vs Over Set, Set vs NFD, Set vs Overpair then he hits his set on turn/river, My set on flop vs his flopped straight 256 no suit board no way im folding 66 there in a 3bet flop, i mean how many ppl call 3bets with 37s ♦ xD. I still continued to play, because I knew I was the best on the table, I've played around 200k hands in these 3 months 27 days which I think is acceptable. Anyways, switch to cash games. see some of TwiceT's videos his Pink series with vonki is sick.