Massive sitout on 1.1.2012 starts at 18.00 CET!
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
Originally posted by Heffron89
Woho finally you have to contribute to get RB and not sit as a retarded nit leeching from loose players.
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exactly
this certainly encourages the game , as playing more hands and putting money into the pot is about poker not sitting around for aa
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-i just found they reversed the decision
hahahhahaa , everyone return to the sleep and not play mode .
Originally posted by CRI4BRA
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
Originally posted by Heffron89
Woho finally you have to contribute to get RB and not sit as a retarded nit leeching from loose players.
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exactly
this certainly encourages the game , as playing more hands and putting money into the pot is about poker not sitting around for aa
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-i just found they reversed the decision
hahahhahaa , everyone return to the sleep and not play mode .
You can never have too much of this:
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Originally posted by kukkiwonBG
Originally posted by edismah
Massive sitout on 1.1.2012 starts at 18.00 CET!
Originally posted by ragney
Hell yeah. Finally the 24 table MSS'ers are gone/useless.
since mss players get it in more often surely they would be earning more vpps`??
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
Originally posted by kukkiwonBG
Originally posted by edismah
Massive sitout on 1.1.2012 starts at 18.00 CET!
Is this Def. on?
It's on if you want to. It's way bigger on 2+2 though.
Originally posted by edismah
Massive sitout on 1.1.2012 starts at 18.00 CET!
I do not play on PS much and I wonder how many people affected by this change(s). Let's see how much player participate on this protest. Good Luck folks!
Originally posted by edismah
Massive sitout on 1.1.2012 starts at 18.00 CET!
in for sure. hope stars does thhe right thing.
Not sure about the numbers but I got the idea why pokerstars wants to get "more fair for all players bullshit"
Originally Posted by Mrtrebus
Just to illustrate the point that stars would be pocketing extra cash on this:A supernova elite who would have earned 1 million vpps under the old system and takes a 20% hit to vpps, now only earns 800,000 vpps.
He misses out on his $20k milestone bonus and because of his 5x vpp multiplier now earns 1 million less fpps worth $16,000. He also doesn't earn his $5,200 wcoop seat
Overall $41,200 less than the previous year
Those 200,000 vpps will be distributed mainly to losing/very loose players. Probably mainly bronze, silver and gold star, in that order.
Even if we use the vpp multiplier of a goldstar, 2x, these fpps are only worth a maximum of $4,800 to the players they go to, in reality these fpps vpps will be going to bronze stars and silver stars too, many less fpps will be earned and they will be cashed in at much lower rate.
The highest amount these vpps are likely to earn in milestones for players is $2,400 (this is how much all the milestones/stellar rewards up to supernova are worth.) Again in reality, these vpps will be distributed amongst a large number of players, who will earn an extra $5 or $10 stellar reward, if that.
So with the change to wc, a sne would have $41,200 knocked off his rewards with a maximum of $7,200 been distributed back to other players. With pokerstars pocketing the extra $34,000+
All of you who don't play at Stars, you should know that all these changes may affect you too. Some of the regs will definitly come to your site.
as party chage it to contribute rake, grinders are still playing the same and they just play more tables and hope to get their 7 hands as often as possible, but i think on stars people especially overseas grinders are LAG and they will remain only europe is so F tight, thanks to all the articles and videos and books avaliable to the public ♦ stars nailed it with this one and i hope the games will become good once again as in 2009
Originally posted by edismah
All of you who don't play at Stars, you should know that all these changes may affect you too. Some of the regs will definitly come to your site.
yes, for sure. But there is nothing we can do, right?
In the so called Golden Age of online nobody knew shit about poker and played loose to gamble. Now, everyone who loosens up will do it in a profitable manner and fuck you up! Loose or tight doesn't mean winning or losing in poker. It's bad so many think this way!
Making games looser doesn't mean they will be eazy peazy. Not to mention this whole change to WC is not going to make the games looser it just puts money into Stars' pockets.
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
In the so called Golden Age of online nobody knew shit about poker and played loose to gamble. Now, everyone who loosens up will do it in a profitable manner and fuck you up! Loose or tight doesn't mean winning or losing in poker. It's bad so many think this way!Making games looser doesn't mean they will be eazy peazy. Not to mention this whole change to WC is not going to make the games looser it just puts money into Stars' pockets.
1. WC put more money for pokerroom than dealt. As a company PS always looking for more profit. They'll do everything they can to improve provit
2. WC is more fair than dealt for the players because you do not get point if you do not contribute to the pot.
3. WC make the game more interesting for recreational players (i.e player who play for fun).
Poker room need healty reg : rec player ratio in order to run. In the past, rec is too much (easy to get) so they use dealt to invite more reg player. Nowadays, reg is too much so rooms tend to change to WC.
I think these changes (dealt to WC) are normal and unavoidable
Originally posted by patszerdonk
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
In the so called Golden Age of online nobody knew shit about poker and played loose to gamble. Now, everyone who loosens up will do it in a profitable manner and fuck you up! Loose or tight doesn't mean winning or losing in poker. It's bad so many think this way!Making games looser doesn't mean they will be eazy peazy. Not to mention this whole change to WC is not going to make the games looser it just puts money into Stars' pockets.
1. WC put more money for pokerroom than dealt. As a company PS always looking for more profit. They'll do everything they can to improve provit
2. WC is more fair than dealt for the players because you do not get point if you do not contribute to the pot.
3. WC make the game more interesting for recreational players (i.e player who play for fun).Poker room need healty reg : rec player ratio in order to run. In the past, rec is too much (easy to get) so they use dealt to invite more reg player. Nowadays, reg is too much so rooms tend to change to WC.
I think these changes (dealt to WC) are normal and unavoidable
So you are saying cancelling poker as a profession is the way to go?
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
In the so called Golden Age of online nobody knew shit about poker and played loose to gamble. Now, everyone who loosens up will do it in a profitable manner and fuck you up! Loose or tight doesn't mean winning or losing in poker. It's bad so many think this way!Making games looser doesn't mean they will be eazy peazy. Not to mention this whole change to WC is not going to make the games looser it just puts money into Stars' pockets.
1. WC put more money for pokerroom than dealt. As a company PS always looking for more profit. They'll do everything they can to improve provit
2. WC is more fair than dealt for the players because you do not get point if you do not contribute to the pot.
3. WC make the game more interesting for recreational players (i.e player who play for fun).
Poker room need healty reg : rec player ratio in order to run. In the past, rec is too much (easy to get) so they use dealt to invite more reg player. Nowadays, reg is too much so rooms tend to change to WC.
I think these changes (dealt to WC) are normal and unavoidable
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
Originally posted by patszerdonk
Originally posted by EmanuelC16
In the so called Golden Age of online nobody knew shit about poker and played loose to gamble. Now, everyone who loosens up will do it in a profitable manner and fuck you up! Loose or tight doesn't mean winning or losing in poker. It's bad so many think this way!Making games looser doesn't mean they will be eazy peazy. Not to mention this whole change to WC is not going to make the games looser it just puts money into Stars' pockets.
1. WC put more money for pokerroom than dealt. As a company PS always looking for more profit. They'll do everything they can to improve provit
2. WC is more fair than dealt for the players because you do not get point if you do not contribute to the pot.
3. WC make the game more interesting for recreational players (i.e player who play for fun).Poker room need healty reg : rec player ratio in order to run. In the past, rec is too much (easy to get) so they use dealt to invite more reg player. Nowadays, reg is too much so rooms tend to change to WC.
I think these changes (dealt to WC) are normal and unavoidable
So you are saying cancelling poker as a profession is the way to go?
Of course it will be harder, but I'm not saying/suggest that!
(sorry for double post)