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Originally posted by lood88
Hello,
need help finding new room. ATM I'm playing on PartyPoker, NL50 FR. My goal is to boost my BR so I can play NL100 and go for Palladium in 2nd quarter. I'm getting platinum status tomorrow so by the end of march i'll hopefully be ready for next level. I'm looking for some site with loose and fishy games with decent bonus. I would be grateful if you could suggest me something and give me basic info about games and bonus, how much points is needed, how much rake is that and release conditions. RB isn't that important as I'm planing to move back to PP, but some additional boost wouldn't hurt, right? :P

Thanks upfront!

Hi lood88,

Depending what your priorities are, I can either recommend 888 Who have a $888 deposit bonus. This clears in $10 chunks per 100 points (EDIT- 2 points per $1 rake). To clear the whole bonus it requires around $4500 rake. So works out around 20% rakeback from the bonus.

The games are exceptionally good and have a lot of traffic for FR. As I have mentioned before, winrate > rakeback. So if you can find a soft network rakeback shouldn't be as big a priority.

If you are keen to have better rakeback and a better deposit bonus. I would recomend William Hill. The deposit bonus is 200% up to $2k. So you can deposit $1k and qualify for a $2k deposit bonus. This clears in $5 chunks for every 350 points. You earn 20 points per $1 rake so it works out at 28% rakeback from the deposit bonus. The downside being with William Hill is the games are a bit tougher than 888.

You can always deposit on both, depending what your bankroll is. To game select between the two and take advantage of the soft games of 888 and the slightly better bonus of William Hill.

Hope that isnt too much text and is easy enough to understand


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010

Isn't it 30 WH points / $1 rake, or has that been changed?


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Its 30 points for tournament fees. Also for SNG's

For cash games we cant give a exact figure as it depends on table size and other factors, so the best estimate we give is 20 points per $1


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lood88
Joined: 26.09.2010

Originally posted by CallumN
Hope that isnt too much text and is easy enough to understand

The more the better! Information you gave me is very helpful, I only have one question about 888 bonus:

5 points = $1 rake -> 100 points = $20 rake = $10 bonus?
So to clear it, you need to rake exactly $1776 or 8880 points, I don't understand how did you get $4500? Or did i miss something?

My main priority is fishiness and softness of games, think I can benefit more from it then rakeback. Also you said the traffic is good, so I won't have problem finding 4-6 good tables.

I won't be able to deposit on both. My online BR is around $1500. I do have additional money for poker but I only use it for live games and wouldn't like to deposit it unless I really have to.

Yes and one more question, is it true that there is no auto-top up on 888?

Thank you


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Sorry Lood88, I think i have been silly!

You get 2 points per $1 of rake. So it will take $50 of rake to clear $10 worth of bonus (100 points required per $10 of bonus). Working out at 20% rakeback.

So for the full $888 you will need to rake $4440.

Sorry for the confusion.

Also, I can confirm from playing there myself, 888 does have auto top up.

Sorry for my mistake, let me know if you have any more questions

Callum


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Hello again,

I currently play on iPoker (Betfred) 6 tables of PLO20 but sometimes the tables are just nitting up or it's hard to get a seat on 6 especially in the morning and noon.

Any idea of a good secondary room where I get decent return even if I don't grind it?

Let's say for something like 5k hands/month. Preferably flat rakeback.

I was thinking PKR but how is their 2D software and can I use hud on 2 tables there? And what clearance rate does the FDB have? Is it deducted from the rakeback? Any cashout problems recenlty there?


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Originally posted by EmanuelC16
Hello again,

I currently play on iPoker (Betfred) 6 tables of PLO20 but sometimes the tables are just nitting up or it's hard to get a seat on 6 especially in the morning and noon.

Any idea of a good secondary room where I get decent return even if I don't grind it?

Let's say for something like 5k hands/month. Preferably flat rakeback.

I was thinking PKR but how is their 2D software and can I use hud on 2 tables there? And what clearance rate does the FDB have? Is it deducted from the rakeback? Any cashout problems recenlty there?

Hi Emanuelc16,

If flat rakeback is your priority I would suggest Unibet. They offer 30% flat rakeback. They also have a €1k first deposit bonus. I believe this is deducted from the rakeback though.

Looking now there are atleast 6 tables going at PLO20.

If your priority is for more traffic then Bwin with the Ongame network would be best. The only downside is that the rakeback/VIP system is not flat and will work out at less then 30% considering your volume.

I would not recommend PKR for PLO20 as the rake is extremely high at these limits so the 30% rakeback doesn't make up for it. Also you cannot run a HUD on their software.

Hope this helps

Callum


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lood88
Joined: 26.09.2010

Alright, thank you.

Is it possible to make some kind of rough estimate how much hands would cover that amount of rake on 888 at NL50?


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Unibet has 30% rakeback if you use pokerstrategy link to register .Also you get fdb of 20% and it is not deducted from your rakeback ,so you actually have 50% rakeback until you clear your fdb and you have exactly 60 days to do it. There is however one big downside of this: you release your fdb in chunks of 100 euros,which means that you need to rake 500 euros to get 100 euros of your fdb. Lets say you rake 499 euros during this 60 days and you will get 0 of fdb,if you rake 980 euros you will get 100 for first 500 of rake but nothing for remaining 480 you raked.


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

From what I remember I have some Unibet account on which I didn't even log on, never had it installed on my PC. I only found out about it a couple of months ago when I wanted to create an account via PokerStrategy there.

Could I get it retracked?


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Originally posted by EmanuelC16
From what I remember I have some Unibet account on which I didn't even log on, never had it installed on my PC. I only found out about it a couple of months ago when I wanted to create an account via PokerStrategy there.

Could I get it retracked?

Hi EmanuelC16,

We checked on our database and you havent been tracked on Unibet via us before. Was it through a diferent site that you signed up? If so I need to speak to one of the account managers regarding this. They are in London at the moment but they should be back tomorrow so i will speak with them then and get back to you.

The issue is that if you have signed up with Unibet elsewhere we may not be able to get you a account with them. We have Ladbrokes but their rakeback works slightly differently and you probably wont earn the full 30% playing 5k hands a month.

I will also speak to them to confirm if the FDB is deducted from the rakeback.

Sorry for the delay

Callum


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Hi Callum,

I think it was directly through them and the account hasn't been active for over a year. I probably made it before I knew anything about poker. :f_biggrin: Thanks for the help with this!


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Originally posted by lood88
Alright, thank you.

Is it possible to make some kind of rough estimate how much hands would cover that amount of rake on 888 at NL50?

Hi Lood88,

For NL50 fullring the average rake is 6bb/100. So for every 100 hands you will pay $3 of rake on average. So for every hand you rake roughly $0.03

$4440 (rake required to complete bonus) divided by $0.03 (average rake per hand) is 148000.

So to unlock the full bonus it will require of average 148000 hands at 50nl FR. This can of course vary depending on your play style.


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lood88
Joined: 26.09.2010

Great, you helped me a lot, thank you very much and have a nice day!


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Originally posted by lood88
Great, you helped me a lot, thank you very much and have a nice day!

no problem _biggrin: Good luck at the tables!


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After contacting Unibet I got this response regarding the deposit bonus

Dear Callum,

Thank you for contacting Unibet with your enquiry.

Please be advised that the deposit bonus and rakeback system are not linked to one another, therefore the answer to your question is no.

If you have any other queries please dont hesitate to contact us once again.

We thank you for your understanding and wish you a nice day.

Best regards,
Amy

Unibet Customer Support

The bolded part basically implying that you will still receive your 30% on top of the deposit bonus.

Will follow up with the rest of your query tomorrow EmanuelC16


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--edited by DtotheC--

The information in these reviews you posted isnt accurate and is just opinions, for example Stars does have rakeback through their VIP system and no their tables are not soft.

Please only use this thread for finding out what your best room is given what you want to achieve (i.e soft tables, traffic at X limit or game type, rakeback etc).

Please refer to my post further on in this thread as to why I removed this post.


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ignelis192
Joined: 25.07.2010

Hi guys, I'm thinking of making a deposit. I'm not tracked via pokerstars so I would like to start gathering PS points and improving my game

1. NL 5, PLO 5 Both short-handed
2. Will probably play 30 h/week
3. BR ~300$
4. And my goals would be to finally follow BRM, keep improving the mindset and to start reading articles, watching videos.


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Originally posted by ignelis192
Hi guys, I'm thinking of making a deposit. I'm not tracked via pokerstars so I would like to start gathering PS points and improving my game

1. NL 5, PLO 5 Both short-handed
2. Will probably play 30 h/week
3. BR ~300$
4. And my goals would be to finally follow BRM, keep improving the mindset and to start reading articles, watching videos.

Hi Ignelis192,

I would recommend you play at 888. The games are good there and there will be enough traffic for your to play 5-6 tables most times of the day.

You also mentioned that you wanted to use our videos and articles. With 888 you earn 4 strategy points per $1 rake so will be able to unlock the higher content even quicker!

Good luck!


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Heave112
Joined: 27.03.2009

888 POKER IS THE BEST ****** SITE IN THIS YEAR, BIGGEST FISH, VERY NICE SOFTWARE, DONKEYS AND FREE MONEY SITTING AT THE TABLE EVEN @ NL 50 FREE CASH

edited by Pleno1 - Glad you enjoy it!


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