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inlovewithamsterdam
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Joined: 08.07.2009
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11.02.2012, 19:51

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $400(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,100)
BB ($2,768)
UTG ($3,620)
UTG+1 ($1,500)
UTG+2 ($1,760)
MP1 ($4,273)
CO ($1,934)
BTN ($3,045)

Dealt to Hero K♦ A♥

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $1,760 (AI), fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $900 (AI), fold

I have put this situation in ICM Explorer and it's come up with this:

Fold: 900 chips, 0.0501, SD: $11.32
Win: 3700 chips, 0.1804
Lose: 0 chips, 0
Tie: 1850 chips, 0.0978

Equity needed: 27.79%
Chip odds: 24.32%
Risk premium: 3.47%
Chips gained by marginal call: 128.4.
Ties count as 54.23% of a win.
SD of marginal call: $11.64.

Have put in wrong details or do we really call here with any two? (72o has more than 28% Equity vs. his range [30% of hands])

EDIT: this is the corrected result from the ICM:


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masfe
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11.02.2012, 20:08

you can y.

you can also fold the bottom % of your hands just because you just paid the blinds and you'll have a bunch of hands to get something better, so i might fold the bottom 20-30% of my hands.

ICM doesn't take that into consideration.


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Th0m4sBC
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11.02.2012, 20:14

I think the calculation is wrong. I just simply do not get how you can win 3700 chips in this hand. There are 400 (the bb) in the pot. He raises to 1760, but you only can call 1100, which totals the pot at 2*1100+400 = 2600 Chips?

Somehow it seems to assume that BB will call you as well. (but then again, the tie score would make no sense :P)


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inlovewithamsterdam
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11.02.2012, 21:02

done it again and that seems to make sense:

Dunno what the fuck I've done the time before. :)


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inlovewithamsterdam
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11.02.2012, 21:09

according to the corrected result:

Given he open shoves 19.76%
(22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KJo+,QJo)

78s, T9s and A2o is a borderline +EV call (38-9% equity vs. his range)
KTo is a call (40% equity vs. his range)
QTo is break even (37.97%)


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Th0m4sBC
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11.02.2012, 21:46

Seems to make much more sense too me now :)


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chenny8888
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13.02.2012, 17:03

Hi all,

Yeah the corrected result seems better. Keep in mind that BB can overcall, I don't think your calculations took that into account.


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