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Low flushdraw + gutshot facing xr from original raiser

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Anomic
Joined: 15.01.2012

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

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$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU (Hero)$25.80:///////;SB$27.27:///////;BB$49.90:///////;MP2$29.48:///////;MP3$31.92:///////;CO$26.99:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 5:s, 4:s.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB folds.

Flop: ($1.85) 9:s, 6:s, 8:d (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1.40, CO raises to $4.25, Hero calls $2.85.

Turn: ($10.35) K:c (2 players)
CO bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25.

River: ($22.85) 5:d (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $22.85.
Results follow:

Spoiler

Hero shows a pair of fives(5:s 4:s).
CO shows a pair of kings(K:h T:s).

CO wins with a pair of kings(K:h T:s).

Flop: He checks so I semibluff to fold out his high cards. I get checkraised and call because I think I have implieds if he has a monster like 2p+.
Turn: I think I can call with 12 outs if I have implieds.
River: I get some weak showdownvalue and check it down, I expect to see a missed draw or a one pair type hand. Maybe I could have changed it into a bluff because I think he almost never has a 7 here and it could be in my range...

Played ok or is there a better line to take here?


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Hi Anomic,

Why do you expect villain to have mostly value on that flop? Most would cbet the flop with value instead of check/raising.

Regardless i think that you can raise your bigger draw either on the flop or turn and as played you beat all busted draws with the spiked 5.

You also rarely have a 7 in your range and FDs missed so I doubt he folds many better hands.


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Anomic
Joined: 15.01.2012

Because the board is so drawy I think he can go for a xr with his strong madehands to build a big pot faster before scarecards come. Really don't know what other stuff he would do this with except maybe nut draws (and I have horrible equity against that). His flop line just seemed so strong to me that I didn't think I had fold equity.


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MasochisticDesire
Joined: 25.10.2010

Flop: Makes a lot more sense for villain to bet all value & draws. I don't think it makes a lot of sense for them to x/r this board with no equity though so it is hard to estimate a range (I would expect more draws then made hands though.) I think your line is fine.

Turn: Optimistic call I think as well as the assumption of 12 outs. Flop x/r could include villain's better straight & flush draws. I think calling is our worst option. Raising may be valid if you have suitable knowledge of opponent's tendencies but failing that I think folding is best.

As played, River is check-back imo.


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asimos
Joined: 22.07.2011

I think you played hand fine.

1) to say that Villain bets his value hands / draws and check raises only bluffs is pure assumption.
2) a lot of people instantly bet when we check, I don't know if hero is one of them.. but would make sense to check - raise our strong to built the pot vs such guys -so Villain could easily do that vs hero- .

Villain can have all sets in his range, all monster draws. If you raise either flop or turn you iso your self vs a calling range which crushes you... Having that said, re-raising getting all-in on the flop shouldn't be bad vs aggro guys. But your flush is small, so if Villain has a bigger one we are in very bad shape. So ONLY IF Villain is proven aggro I would consider re-raising good play.

Also Villain's cbet stat would be useful in this case.

Now one interesting question imo is what should do on the river when i.e. 4h comes?


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