KK BB vs MP shove, 4 players action preflop 150 bb

Pre flop those guys look quite weak aften one minraises and another calls so when you 4bet your range might be still quite wide. So maybe villain is shoving with wider range. Still it is a bit scary when he does that when he is deep.
Someone might be able to fold this. I probably would call too

Pre flop those guys look quite weak aften one minraises and another calls so when you 4bet your range might be still quite wide.

I do not have wide 4bet range here. Min3bet might be strong plus 3 players action before me. I am not bluffing here

The only problem is that you both are deep.

There is 178 bb in the pot and it costs you 136 bb to call. This is 1.31:1 in pot odds. You need 43% equity, say 50% to account for rake.

Now you take it to Equilab and fill up with 4 or so combos of AA (many would raise smaller to get customers). Then fill up with what else you think he does this with, and with which probability he makes this move.

Yes, that is how we loose money in deep I guess. In 100 BB stacks it is always easy play (most often), but in deep I don't like to call here. Will opponent risk 150BB with QQ after all that action? Yes, button 3b with stupid size, but MP saw his open => min 3b => cold 4b and he shove. I'm not sure he will shove AK in that case. He could just call IP with AK to left the fishy button in the hand, but shove is pretty strong to me.

Originally posted by YohanN7
There is 178 bb in the pot and it costs you 136 bb to call. This is 1.31:1 in pot odds. You need 43% equity, say 50% to account for rake.

Now you take it to Equilab and fill up with 4 or so combos of AA (many would raise smaller to get customers). Then fill up with what else you think he does this with, and with which probability he makes this move.

yea, the thing that he bets AI makes it look bit weaker, cause with AA people want to get customers by riasing smaller. On the other hand if he thinks that he will look weaker by showing, then it also makes sense

But he really has to have at least QQ for us to have 50% equity, and this is possible, but question is - how likely.

So fold would not be bad as I understand.

QQ will not push that frequently when deep. So fold is not that bad.