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Hello, I would also like to ask something, playing 7$ hu sng on a stars and I often bump into people who have 3-bet pf like >35%. I am not sure how to deal with it, its kind of annoying because they just take a lot of my chips before I recognize he is 3-betting like every second hand and even then I am not sure what to do...

When I start calling he simply has the initiative and can easily take pot with c-bet, floating is so damn expensive and dangerous in 3-bet pots...When I start 4-betting light he stars shoving light. Ofc I can just limp and call pf from BU so I play normal size pot but again he has an initiative(but floating is possible and cheaper so maybe this way)? I also tried tighten my range a lot (~20%) and 4-bet / shove every 3-bet, but I think that just every way is easily exploitable by anyone atleast little bit thinking. I am begging for advice

I am now trying to move from 5$ to 10 $ hu sng games.
I am using brm 50+5 bi 50 current level and 5 for next level.
I play 5s till I reach 300$ and then play 10s. If my br reaches 250 I go back to 5s(so far happened once).
How do you think 5 bi for next level is fine or I can use less or should have more?

not sure this is the right place to ask but i didnt find anything with search.

how accurate is EV for HU SNGs?
i dont have much of a sample but i thought i was getting it in good nearly every time, but my EV is WAY below my actual winnings.

Originally posted by qnb07
not sure this is the right place to ask but i didnt find anything with search.

how accurate is EV for HU SNGs?
i dont have much of a sample but i thought i was getting it in good nearly every time, but my EV is WAY below my actual winnings.

mine is below too, only somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 of my actual winnings over 400Sng sample. I dont feel like Im running that good ... maybe Im :/

Originally posted by Tavbi123
@pleno1
What stakes do you play? Are you willing to comment on some hands?
ty

+1 answer this please, i kinda want you to review some hands i played but also i dont wanna bother you

1)What is the expected bb/100 in nl50 limit?
2)Is this a profitable format of poker?
3)How many hands you need in order to have a good sample that you can beat hu cash games?
4)Which is the best bankroll management including the taking shots for an aggro player?
5)Why so small database of videos in our community about hu cash?

Hey guys, missed so much of this :/

Have allocated one hour tonight and one hour tomorrow to answer q;s, please post hand historys itt for analysis/discussion.

Muchos Danke.

Originally posted by elesarrrr
1)What is the expected bb/100 in nl50 limit?
2)Is this a profitable format of poker?
3)How many hands you need in order to have a good sample that you can beat hu cash games?
4)Which is the best bankroll management including the taking shots for an aggro player?
5)Why so small database of videos in our community about hu cash?

Pleno is obv the expert on the subject but here is my opinion on some of your questions

1) There are huge variation between players about WR in HU so it is very hard to give an expected WR it is however where you probably can get the highest WR if you are good enough and choose the right opponents

2) It is definitely a profitable format of poker providing you play opponents that are weaker than you

3) I don't think you can really think you can say you can ever beat HU cash game. You should see rather the number of hands you need to see if you are better than another players as skills between players probably vary greatly.

4) Again it depends how fast you are willing to go down limit, how good you are and how good you are at table selection.

5) I would say because of the demand probably. i would imagine that a minority of players play HU CG. There are however a number of good HU videos I believe

IMO in HU, because you are only playing one opponent , if you select you can be sure than no other reg at the table will get the table from the fish. you can also concentrate on every move and get a real good edge on that opponent. however as you go up in limits you will see that the proportion of regs increase and table selection becomes more important. also stretch in BRM can be sued for example if you find a known fish that you know you beat easily and you probably need a few BI to cover variance

I hope this is of some help

Heya!

What do you think of this hand? I dropped opponent to 450 chips then I get only unplayable hands like 85o, 74 and he goes into maniac mode. He stabbed every single pot. I did a few check-raises, 3 times with hands and one time as a total bluff. He folded all the check-raises and called that one time when I bluffed. At some point, after gaining back a lot of chips he calmed down and actually checked behind a one card nut straight on the river because there were 3 clubs on the board. So what should I do in this spot? It looks like he stabs again, I raise but he goes allin. He certainly has a hand but could he have a better one? In terms of pot odds it's a clear call against 8s but he can easily have a flushdraw himself. How would you react?

Hand Information
Holdem NL, 40 BB (2 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 3 bolland36 ($1250) Dealer
Seat: 8 BadeaCeaRea ($1750) Small Blind
Dealt to BadeaCeaRea
K♥: 7♣:

Preflop (Pot:60)
bolland36 CALL $20
BadeaCeaRea CHECK

Flop(Pot: $80)
8♥: 5♥: 7♥:

BadeaCeaRea CHECK
bolland36 BET $40
BadeaCeaRea RAISE $200
bolland36 RAISE $1210
BadeaCeaRea CALL $1010

what up everyone?! I play HU sng's now! Where is pleno?!

Yea where has he gone, please give him a nudge would love to see more of his insights and input ty

Originally posted by Toothless32
Hello, I would also like to ask something, playing 7$ hu sng on a stars and I often bump into people who have 3-bet pf like >35%. I am not sure how to deal with it, its kind of annoying because they just take a lot of my chips before I recognize he is 3-betting like every second hand and even then I am not sure what to do...

When I start calling he simply has the initiative and can easily take pot with c-bet, floating is so damn expensive and dangerous in 3-bet pots...When I start 4-betting light he stars shoving light. Ofc I can just limp and call pf from BU so I play normal size pot but again he has an initiative(but floating is possible and cheaper so maybe this way)? I also tried tighten my range a lot (~20%) and 4-bet / shove every 3-bet, but I think that just every way is easily exploitable by anyone atleast little bit thinking. I am begging for advice

Hey,

Early on in the match you can make your raises smaller, for exampleif you are normally raising 3x, you can now make it 2x and defend 3bets lighter, trash hands that you would usually raise/cbet like 64 you can just open fold.

When the stacks get shallower, if he is still 3betting the same frequencies, that you can adjust by limping the button and defending some hands, if he checkss and folds to lots of cbets we can limp/cbet 1/2 pot. To be balanced we can limp our big hands too and to be balanced further, we can limp/jam a4s kind of hands too.

Originally posted by daun666
I am now trying to move from 5$ to 10 $ hu sng games.
I am using brm 50+5 bi 50 current level and 5 for next level.
I play 5s till I reach 300$ and then play 10s. If my br reaches 250 I go back to 5s(so far happened once).
How do you think 5 bi for next level is fine or I can use less or should have more?

It just really depends, so many factors come into consideration when talking about BRM.

I have a friend that uses 7bi and I have a friend that uses 100. They both are hugely winning players and have a style (brm) that suits them.

If I were to go back to HU SNG's I would have a relatively aggresive BRM, using 20bi bankroll and giving myself xbi amoutn shots.

So for example, if I started with the $50's and won 7 bi's, my br would be around $1350. I would then give myself a 3bi shot at the 100's, if that went bad I would go back to the 50's and rebuild. Once the roll got to say $2000-$2200 I would move up to the $100's. If I were to win 6/7 bi's then I would give myself a 2/3 bi shot at the $200's etc.

Originally posted by qnb07
not sure this is the right place to ask but i didnt find anything with search.

how accurate is EV for HU SNGs?
i dont have much of a sample but i thought i was getting it in good nearly every time, but my EV is WAY below my actual winnings.

Yeah not very, I wouldn't realy take it into account. I think analysing sng's in blocks, 5 games, 10 games etc is the best way. Or maybe looking at the hands onlyt after level 120/240 etc is better than looking ta ev calculations.

Originally posted by BadeaCelRau
Heya!

What do you think of this hand? I dropped opponent to 450 chips then I get only unplayable hands like 85o, 74 and he goes into maniac mode. He stabbed every single pot. I did a few check-raises, 3 times with hands and one time as a total bluff. He folded all the check-raises and called that one time when I bluffed. At some point, after gaining back a lot of chips he calmed down and actually checked behind a one card nut straight on the river because there were 3 clubs on the board. So what should I do in this spot? It looks like he stabs again, I raise but he goes allin. He certainly has a hand but could he have a better one? In terms of pot odds it's a clear call against 8s but he can easily have a flushdraw himself. How would you react?

Hand Information
Holdem NL, 40 BB (2 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 3 bolland36 ($1250) Dealer
Seat: 8 BadeaCeaRea ($1750) Small Blind
Dealt to BadeaCeaRea
K♥: 7♣:

Preflop (Pot:60)
bolland36 CALL $20
BadeaCeaRea CHECK

Flop(Pot: $80)
8♥: 5♥: 7♥:

BadeaCeaRea CHECK
bolland36 BET $40
BadeaCeaRea RAISE $200
bolland36 RAISE $1210
BadeaCeaRea CALL $1010

Hey, thanks for the detailed descriptions, makes it a little easier.

Firstly I think "donking" on this board is good, we can expect opponent to defend with all straight draws, all pairs, all good flush draws, of course all combo draws, but I think c/calling just leaves us exploitable to multiple barrels, so I prefer to lead here and get value from his calling range as his bluffing range is probably quite similar to his calling range, but with the inititive it probably swings the likelyhood that he will win the hand.

Once you c/raise you' probably have you go with the hand as you certainly wern't raising as a bluff, unless he has axhh you still have DECENT equity. I'm guessing you didnt win though :/

Originally posted by IngridN
what up everyone?! I play HU sng's now! Where is pleno?!

Get posting

Originally posted by daun666
Hi,
Do you have some stoploss point? And what you think about it?
If I am playing good game and not tilting but keep loosing because I run bad should I stop or keep playing?

Had nice upswing won 30 husng of 35 but downswing is coming, today down 4 bi, running bad

And question about strategy. Today played some guys who only fold or 3-bet my button raises. 3-bet about 15-20 % all rest fold and they dont raise my limps. So what should I do? Raise all time or limp and play postflop? But in post flop play OOP they are folding almost everything except nuts. So i limp, bet flop, they fold or call TP +

1) Yeah I ususally give myself a 6bi stop loss, I randomly increased it to 7 recently though.

2) Min raise so we can defend his 3bets lighter and get a better price for when he folds, it may also make him call more, and if he isnt used to playing multistreet poker AND he is out of position then you are probably going to be able to steamroller him. GL!

Originally posted by WinnerInside
Hey.

1)Which hands you would never fold preflop against an unknown opponent in hu sng?

2)What speed of hu sng you prefer the most (nbi, regular, turbo, super turbo)? Why?

1) I would never fold AQ+, 99+ against an unknown in the first 5 hands of SNG against a random, later on I will probably never fold JJ+, not just because of opponent, btu because I'm aggro and even nitty opponents will 3b/call 10's, aq against me

2) It is obviously easier to win regular, NBI are the most tilting things ever, but if you're prepared to play them you can crush pretty hard. Super Turbo I/most good players hjave a big edge in when not playing against good regs as everybody plays them terribly. I like turbo's because people don't really understand nash and its quite easy to just 3b myself a dominating stack and then win a flip.

Originally posted by WinnerInside
Hey.

1)Which hands you would never fold preflop against an unknown opponent in hu sng?

2)What speed of hu sng you prefer the most (nbi, regular, turbo, super turbo)? Why?

1) I would never fold AQ+, 99+ against an unknown in the first 5 hands of SNG against a random, later on I will probably never fold JJ+, not just because of opponent, btu because I'm aggro and even nitty opponents will 3b/call 10's, aq against me

2) It is obviously easier to win regular, NBI are the most tilting things ever, but if you're prepared to play them you can crush pretty hard. Super Turbo I/most good players hjave a big edge in when not playing against good regs as everybody plays them terribly. I like turbo's because people don't really understand nash and its quite easy to just 3b myself a dominating stack and then win a flip.

maybe it is a dummie question but

Can someone make a living playing superturbo heads up?