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Erniastukas
Joined: 14.03.2011

These series of hands will be based on my target to improve playing against really bad players and dealing with bad situations against them. Is it ok to play like that against such players? Should I expect larger variance by playing against them (since they never fold and I keep getting into 55/45 situations)?

This is a art of my thread here: NL25 finishing blow together with Thor - help me deliver it! (trying to keep things organised here). Should you take a look at it I would be thankfull for that.

The opponent was quite loose-aggro with stats of 47/24:

Winamax, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $30.92 (103.1 bb)
BTN: $23.91 (79.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $26.95 (89.8 bb)
BB: $30 (100 bb)
MP: $16.99 (56.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K
2 folds, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, BB calls $0.90, BTN folds

Flop: ($2.70) 6 Q Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($2.70) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.05, BB calls $2.05

River: ($6.80) J (2 players)
Hero bets $5.10, BB raises to $10.20, Hero raises to $23.70, BB calls $13.50

Results:

Spoiler

$54.20 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 6 Q Q 7 J
Hero showed Q K and lost (-$26.95 net)
BB showed 3 A and won $51.20 ($24.25 net)


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

reeeeally super ez bet flop
as played shoving river seems borderline, non-nut flush in paired flop... feel like there are just not enough worse hands there, though i guess it would be doable with A:c.


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Erniastukas
Joined: 14.03.2011

Checked the flop with intention to check-raise.

Showed the river because thinked he's on lower flush.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

well yeah, i got that but he definitely has enough of hands that are better than yours.
minr river is ALWAYS a hand that he perceives to be the nuts... and while that can be some worse flushes, he can definitely have QJ/JJ/77/66/A:c (typical fish slowplay), maybe even Q6s Q7s so you probably need him to have quite a lot of trash in order to shove profitably.

flop c/r is, well, just too fancy without knowing his bet% vs missed cbet.


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Hi Erniastukas,

Preflop: Our default assumption should be that fish are passive unless we have info to tell us otherwise.

So slowplaying here is a pretty bad mistake in my opinion. On top of that fish hate folding paired boards.

So the default line should be bet/bet/bet. If you have reads that he is aggro and likes to stab then go for the checks.

The river is close and depends on if we expect him to raise all flushes (not just nutty ones). We know for a fact that he'd raise the nutty ones (all fish do). But since the flop got checked around he can literally have any flush draw.

PS: great job with the blog. Keep it up. And that's a nice looking dog :)


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Erniastukas
Joined: 14.03.2011

Thanks, he grows fast. Will try to keep my bankroll growing even faster :]


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