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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

DaPhunk's Messed up September graph.

Well, something what wrong with the partypoker update and elephant meaning that there is a stupid upswing which didn't happen at the end of my graph. I didn't want this to happen so i played without stats on NL50 for some days.

Then i opened Elephant so i could find my september graph and it auto imported all my hand histories. oops! I guess i'll just start playing with stats again.

I'm enjoying playing on NL50 though so i might grind to like $1000 or something before going back to NL100. Not sure.
(this would be to partly help work on my multitabling. I only play 13 tables max at the moment, i need to find a better way of arranging them!)

A nice treat also for you guys, two nice images of a powder turn :) Enjoy!

Messed up Setpember graph (It should finish on $470);


By daphunk at 2008-10-02

And the two skiing shots;


By daphunk at 2008-10-02


By daphunk at 2008-10-02

I'm not sure when normal progress will resume as I'm doing some major partying this weekend and won't be able to play till either monday, tuesday or wednesday, depending on how bad my hangover is

Waiting for elephant fix so my graphs can start looking normal :)

P.s. Thanks everyone for the positive comments and...

Hi Gerv! I'll say Hello if i see you on one of my NL50 tables!


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swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

:heart: powpow

btw, try cascading the tables, it's what works best for me, at least when I played SSS on stars (24 tables wasn't too hard with that layout)

nice graph too :)


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

DaPhunks Incredible Downswing!!! (but positive feelings)

Yes! I had a huge downswing! Like, the sickest one i have had so far and hopefully i don't have another one of even half the size. How big was this downswing you wonder? Well, i shall elaborate!

By the way, I think I'm actually milking the term downswing here to make myself sound more impressive. Hence i will give you hand estimates. (possibly completely incorrect except for the NL100 cooler estimate!)

The positive feelings were thus;

  • I felt i was playing well. My multitabling skill was increasing. (Thanks swiss for strongly recommending the cascade option. I dismissed it before, but it really is the best way) I'm quite happy with 15 or 16 tables!
  • Looking back on my hand histories I was always confident that i made the right move with the information i had to hand.
  • I made none of my silly "I think he's an idiot on no evidence" moves and push when i shouldn't have done. (I always used to try and think outside the box a bit Too much)
  • Increased my use of the "fold to flop bet" stat as well as WTS in cbet situations. Eg. low fold to flop bet, low W$@SD and 2.5 AF make me think the opponent coming over the top of my cbet should be called for his "Anti-Shortstack" play. as it where.
  • I increased the number of ways i approach a cbet also. After rereading this article several times; Continuation Bets Yes i already knew much of the content but i was not putting all of it into practice! So better Cbets.
  • I've started to notice more and more people consistently defending their blinds by calling pre and donking flop. I have taken action against it and its worked!

Now the downswing!

Ok here goes;

  1. I start my quest for the "biggest downswing ever" on $810
  2. Over aproximately 3.5k to 5k hands of NL50 i lose 10 buy ins ($100)
  3. Meanwhile i am breakeven Nl100
  4. Bankroll $710. I decide to play another NL100 sesh!
  5. It goes "great". I keep getting amazing hands but in 500 hands all 10 of my all-ins (where i was favourite with a made hand) end in disaster!
  6. You know, full house getting beaten by better full house? etc anyway, Here i lost $200 (NL100)
  7. I switched to NL50 thinking "No prob" i'll just grind back up to $700 and start NL100ing again.
  8. Only problem is that i lose another 6 NL50 buyins in the next 5k hands.
  9. I get 4 buy ins back but lose them again in 1.5k more hands.
  10. Bankroll $450 i lose another 5 buyins over about 6k hands.
  11. Again i get 4 buy ins back and lose them again in 1k more hands.
  12. Bankroll $400 i have another sick cooler and lose 5 more BI in 700 hands.
  13. Bankroll $340 i lose 4 more buy-ins in 5 to 7k more hands.
  14. Bankroll $300 i declare my downswing over as bizarrely i have a huge NL25 upswing (which has been breakeven till this point) and a few NL50 wins too!
  15. I am now back to $400. What a wild ride! I count 41 buy-in downswing!

To Finish
Ok, to end my super long post i will give you a little hand history and a piccy!

Its so fun when this happens;
Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$93.68:255/21 /6 /0.9/28 /13 /75 /53 ;Hero$24.25:///////;CO$85.40:18/67 /28 /1.6/58 /0 /0 /57 ;[/tg]
0.5/1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♦, J♦
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, CO calls $4.00, BU folds, SB calls $3.50, BB folds.

Flop: ($13.00) 3♦, 9♠, J♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.00, CO calls $8.00, SB folds.

Turn: ($29.00) 7♠ (1 players)
CO folds.

and a lovely payout;

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$281.37:35/69 /49 /1.9/61 /50 /50 /36 ;Hero$18.50:///////;MP3$32.88:09/78 /0 /0.0/17 /0 /-/0 ;CO$164.59:133/31 /17 /1.6/40 /57 /40 /43 ;[/tg]
0.5/1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♦, J♦
4 folds, MP3 calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BU folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4.00) 5♥, 7♦, J♠ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($4.00) J♣ (4 players)
SB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00.

River: ($12.00) J♥ (3 players)
SB bets $7.00, MP3 calls $15.50, CO folds, SB calls $8.50.

Final Pot: $43.00

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows four of a kind, jacks (Td Jd)
SB shows a full-house, jacks full of sevens (7s 3c)
MP3 shows three of a kind, jacks (2h Kd)

Hero wins with four of a kind, jacks (Td Jd)

The picture;


By daphunk, shot with Canon DIGITAL IXUS 50 at 2008-10-10

Hope you enjoyed reading! Good luck at the tables!

P.s. If you want to see a graph you will get one just as soon as elephantfix for hands already absorped by elephant comes up.


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Originally posted by DaPhunk

  • I am now back to $400. What a wild ride! I count 41 buy-in downswing!

That's sick buddy - that's really sick... Are you doing table selection? Do you have enough stats of Villains? I can provide you some HH of my DB.

Take care!


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Velak
Joined: 19.04.2008

Originally posted by swissmoumout
:heart: powpow

btw, try cascading the tables, it's what works best for me, at least when I played SSS on stars (24 tables wasn't too hard with that layout)

nice graph too :)

I agree that finding layout that suits you can help a lot when multi-tabling.

I actually stack my tables exactly on top of each other. That way I can have one nice sized table in my view at a time (I use the stars default size) and my mouse or eyes don't have to move at all to see the action. When I click, stars pops up the next window for me that needs action.

I wrote a script which scales and moves the tables so they stack exactly where I want them. If I find an interesting one (A table I want to keep my eye on) I just press one of my GKeys (on my G15 keyboard) and the table pops out to a different position so I can keep my eye on it. When I'm done.. another keypress and it's back on the stack.

I'm sure it would drive some people nuts, but it works well for me.

Great pictures. Keep 'em coming!


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Originally posted by Gerv

That's sick buddy - that's really sick... Are you doing table selection? Do you have enough stats of Villains? I can provide you some HH of my DB.

Take care!

I have no table selection at the moment Gerv. Which is of course going to affect my winrate but i play so many tables i get through most or all of them in an hour or so. I decided to just focus on increasing my hands per hour.

I don't datamine so my DB of stats is slightly short i guess. I only have 300+ on most "regulars" and 500+ on like 60% of the players at my table. But it varies hugely!

Oh, i got this program called "FreePHG" but i'm scared to use it cos i don't know if its legit or not. I'd hate to get VACBanned.


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Originally posted by Velak

I wrote a script which scales and moves the tables so they stack exactly where I want them. If I find an interesting one (A table I want to keep my eye on) I just press one of my GKeys (on my G15 keyboard) and the table pops out to a different position so I can keep my eye on it. When I'm done.. another keypress and it's back on the stack.

I'm sure it would drive some people nuts, but it works well for me.

Great pictures. Keep 'em coming!

Cheers, and that script sounds so handy! I would use it for tables i wanted to rebuy to as well. I'm on partypoker though so is there i way i could do something similar?


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Velak
Joined: 19.04.2008

I don't play on party, but there's no reason why you can't modify it to work, although I set this script to only "recognize" stars tables, so it wouldn't try to rearrange any other active windows I have. I'll make some notes in it and post it below, you could modify it to your liking:

Wow, after going over it for posting here, my notes in it take up more space than the script itself..
click here for more info on other scipts I use

Anyway, if you copy this code, save it to a file, name it whatever you like (ending in .ahk) and you should be good to go. Mine is named tablepop.ahk, for example.

;
; AutoHotkey Version: 1.x
; Language:       English
; Platform:       Win9x/NT
; Author:         Velak
;

#NoEnv  ; Recommended for performance and compatibility with future AutoHotkey releases.
SendMode Input  ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir%  ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.

#SingleInstance, Force
SetTitleMatchMode, 2

;I have 'GKeys' on my G15 programed to send an unusual key sequence, 
;such as CTRL-ALT-Z, CTRL-ALT-X, CTRL-ALT-C.. etc.. to move the windows.
;This script picks up those keypresses, so I only have to hit the one
;GKey depending on where I want my window to be placed.  
;if you don't have a G15 keyboard, you can just use the keypresses 
;CTRL-ALT-Z, CTRL-ALT-X, CTRL-ALT-C.. etc. or assign your own keys. 
;Maybe assign them to the numpad, or function keys, or something. I am 
;Right handed, and use the mouse with my right hand, the Gkeys are on the left
;hand side of the keyboard, so they work well for me. 
;[G13] [G14] [G15] 
;[G16] [G17] [G18]

;note that I have set these to only recognize and move PokerStars Tables.
;since that's where I play. If you play at party, you could just change 
;"PokerStarsTableFrameClass" on each of the keys to .. whatever it is for party.
;you can find that out by using the "window spy" that came with AHK, click on the
;table, and see what it tells you for "ahk_class" under "Window Title and Class"

;If you want to change the coordinates where the window is placed, or the 
;window size, just change the values on the lines:
;WinMove, %Title1%,, 146, 0, 800, 580
;The first two numbers are the coordinates, the second two are the window size.
;
;I have the line "Send F5" below commented out of each one, but I have my pokerstars
;client set to refresh the windows with F5. By default, I don't think this is
;enabled. If you play on stars and want to be able to refresh your windows 
;with F5, go to your stars client, help menu -> open my settings folder
;when it opens your settings folder, CLOSE the stars client, and open the file
;"User.ini" once it's open, right under [Options], add f5redrawtable=1
;so it looks like:
;[Options]
;f5redrawtable=1
;Save it. Then you can reload stars, and use F5 to redraw your tables. 
;If you want you can uncomment out one (or all) of the "Send {F5}"
;lines below, and it will send the redraw when it repositions the table. 
;normally this is not needed, or needed rarely enough, that if I use it I just
;press F5, so it's commented out, but it's there if you want to enable it.
;CTRL-ALT-Q will close the script. I add this to all AHK scripts so I can just 
;use one command to close down all of my AHK scripts. 
;Hope this helped a bit.


;MY SETTINGS BELOW FOR 1600 x 1200
;G13
~^!z::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinGetClass, ahkclass, %Title1%

if (ahkclass = "PokerStarsTableFrameClass") {
WinMove, %Title1%,, 146, 0, 800, 580
;Send {F5}
}
return

;G14
~^!x::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinGetClass, ahkclass, %Title1%

if (ahkclass = "PokerStarsTableFrameClass") {
WinMove, %Title1%,, 473, 0, 800, 580
;Send {F5}
}
return

;G15
~^!c::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinGetClass, ahkclass, %Title1%

if (ahkclass = "PokerStarsTableFrameClass") {
WinMove, %Title1%,, 800, 0, 800, 580
;Send {F5}
}
return

;G16
~^!v::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinGetClass, ahkclass, %Title1%

if (ahkclass = "PokerStarsTableFrameClass") {
WinMove, %Title1%,, 146, 600, 800, 580
;Send {F5}
}
return

;G17
~^!b::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinGetClass, ahkclass, %Title1%

if (ahkclass = "PokerStarsTableFrameClass") {
WinMove, %Title1%,, 473, 600, 800, 580
;Send {F5}
}
return

;G18
~^!n::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinGetClass, ahkclass, %Title1%

if (ahkclass = "PokerStarsTableFrameClass") {
WinMove, %Title1%,, 800, 600, 800, 580
;Send {F5}
}
return

~^!q::
ExitApp
return

That should help. let me know if you have any questions.


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Mining is Allowed ;) I use FreePHG too

I use skype: gervified and am like 24/7 online


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Cheers Valek, I'll try some scripting out.

Gerv, unfortunately my Skype is broke but i'll add you if i get it fixed. I'll get my FreePHG mining some hands after my session is over :)


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

DaPhunks Mini Update!

Well, My roll is now back up to $500 after my horrific downswing. Despite getting really unlucky on several hands and losing a couple of multiway pots where i was favourite. Only $200 more to go before i allow myself to get back on the NL100 boat. At this rate I'll be there in 3 or 4 days lol.

Now, i bring you DaPhunks worst moment in poker!

Now, to explain i get more pissed off at pc lag and program bugs than i do with bad luck as a bit of a background. It sends me on life tilt! anywho;

  1. I get dealt QQ raise preflop. 2 opponents call.
  2. I hit a set on the flop! Both opponents bet into me! Yay!
  3. Just as i try to use the bet slider a different table pops up
  4. I click fold on the other table and go back to my QQ hand.
  5. However, much to my despair, THE BUTTONS AND BET SLIDER HAVE DISSAPEARED!
  6. I have to watch the timer tick down and at 1/2 a second left the buttons reappear but i am too slow to click on the call/bet button!
  7. AAAGHHH! This is aggravating, Partypoker just lagged and cheated me out of a nice multiway pot!
  8. LIFETILT! HIT SCREEN, Then calm down. Then curse Partypokers designers outloud.

I've never had lifetilt so bad as to hit my screen before... Thankfully its a sturdy crt monster and hitting it straight on in the glass hurt me more than it, but thats kinda worrying that i did that. Anyway, i decided at that point i should end my session and cool off. So i did.

If you are reading this and are amused by my story maybe you could share with us an instance of when you have gone on lifetilt due to poker. Was it because of luck, playing so many tables you couldn't handle the action, pc lag or bad programming by the pokersite designers?

Let us know, it would be reassuring that I'm not alone in acting so adversely to frustrating situations like the one i have just mentioned!

Now, to lighten the mood another picture! This is a scenic picture taken in the mountains above Engelberg. It took a lot of effort to get to where the picture was taken from so enjoy it ;)


By daphunk, shot with Canon DIGITAL IXUS v3 at 2008-10-11

Good luck at the tables and check back for more updates in the near future!


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Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

I guess I was allowed to hijack your thread with my bad beat :)

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG r11111r ($4.45)
UTG+1 RantanplanBK ($25.60)
MP1 egni49 ($34.05)
MP2 dp_tlt ($5.15)
MP3 Chubaka_tactic ($4.40)
CO weideshun ($12.75)
BTN Hero ($4.65)
SB Lodorek ($5.00)
BB Linaza ($5.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BTN A♣ A♦
1 fold, RantanplanBK raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, 2 folds, RantanplanBK raises to $5.50, Hero calls $1.40

Flop: 2♣ 9♠ A♥ ($10.50, 2 players)

Turn: Q♠ ($10.50, 2 players)

River: Q♣ ($10.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $9.65
Hero shows: A♣ A♦
RantanplanBK shows: Q♦ Q♥

RantanplanBK wins $10.05 ( won +$4.55 )
Hero lost -$4.65

1. It was just after my 200$ sng downswing that I don't stop talking about :)
2. I see his Queens and my mind goes... "I know I'm gonna be beat... I'll just block it it's just 5$" normal tilt thinking... I hit my set and I'm like "YESSS finally I win with AA today"
3. My mom walks in and says some random things I can't recall... And too try to listen to her I take my eyes away from the screen...
4. I look back at my screen and what? I just lost my stack... what how?
5. I take a look at the hand history and see them running queens... and that was a punch in the face...
6. I just felt numb wasn't sure if I wanted to scream and punch my monitor or just laugh :rolleyes:
7. I somehow try to think about it as if it was funny and try to laugh a little bit
8. That's when I understand I'm getting crazy of this tilt shit... And decide to take a break.

Tilting in 8 easy steps imo

probably not the worst moment in poker... but that's just one I could remember since it just happened few days ago

nice blog and nice pictures btw :)


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

Holy Sh*t Hlynkinn thats a completely sick hand right there. I like the description you gave also. Good way to describe Tilt. I think i might have opted for madman laughter at that one!

Good luck at the tables, Thanks for posting and thanks for the nice comment :)


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

DaPhunk is Going Nowhere Girl!

i am going Nowhere! After several swings which took me +/- 5 buy ins from $500 i am back, yet again to that figure. I am going Nowhere girl!

Thats the beginning of mike wilsons segment from the ski movie Teddybear Crisis. One of my favourite ski movies ever. It misses off a couple of really cool tricks he does at the end of it though. If you're interested the extremely cool trailer can be found here on googlevideo!

TeddyBear Crisis

Now, my play has been far from perfect in the last few days! There have been several Way Ahead/Way Behind situations where i auto-bet without thinking. I've had several lower full house hands where i did this, i also hit a straight on a 3 :heart: board and decided to bet for protection. I then decided i had to call a 4/5 Pot Size bet on river because there was an A on the board and i figured villain could be betting with a pair of Aces. Would have been so much more comfortable just Checking and calling smaller bets.

Anyway, those vague descriptions arn't really enough to judge anything on and I've lost the hands in question somewhere in elephant just treat them as ramblings :)

Now i will post a hand that i think epitomises what seems to have been happening to me an awful lot of late, enjoy! (sorry it didn't convert properly);

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 10 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

: $39.56
: $87.66
: $17
: $55.32
: $10.50
Hero (): $10
: $50
: $84.09
: $49.25
: $62.94

Pre-Flop: Q♣ A♣ dealt to Hero ()
calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2, folds, calls $2, 3 folds, calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.75) 4♣ A♦ A♥ (3 Players)
checks, Hero checks, checks

Turn: ($6.75) 4♥ (3 Players)
checks, Hero bets $4, calls $4, calls $4

River: ($18.75) 8♠ (3 Players)
bets $13.36, Hero calls $4 and is All-In, raises to $30, raises to $81.66 and is All-In, calls $48.09 and is All-In

Results: $178.93 Pot
showed 4♦ 4♠ (four of a kind, Fours) and WON $179 (+$94.91 NET)
Hero mucked Q♣ A♣ (a full house, Aces full of Fours) and LOST (-$10 NET)
showed A♠ 7♠ (a full house, Aces full of Fours) and LOST (-$84.09 NET)

p.s. I think I'm on track to get at least 15,000 points for the PokerStrategy/Partypoker promotion by November 30th. W00t!


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DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

DaPhunks Second Post In A Row! Warning - Ramblings, don't read!

I can't sleep so I'm posting again. I have 2 Questions.

Question 1)

How come party seems to have starting lagging when i play over 1000 hands in a session and starts to use more processing and memory power than Half-Life 2 does. Surely to render highly detailed environments and handle the dynamic physics engine would take more than simply displaying 16 1 dimensional tables with just a few buttons to click on each. Its ridiculous and frustrating when the lag causes party to take 5 to 10 seconds to bring up the buy-in / rebuy window.

It is really annoying.

Question 2)

Why the hell is it that whenever i see a formula i have to write it down in a different way to learn it/ understand it? Its like i have to reinvent it or something. This even goes for a simple formula like the ± EV one for a push. I am somehow unable to just look it up and use the one provided, i have to "invent" a new one which takes a different aproach.

Pleas note - I do NOT expect Anyone to read this. In fact i would be Amazed if anyone read this. Not just EV formula, these are just ramblings, mathematical dribble, lots of stuff i will miss out and lots of errors too. I'm sure. (gag me with a spoon - get the reference?)

So, without further ado, My EV formula;

EV ≈ A + B (Simple huh?)

A ≈ Mean value of profits from the opponent folding.

B ≈ Mean Profits/Losses from the opponent calling.

So B ≈ % times opponent calls(x) Multiplied by our mean winnings(y) ± mean losses(z).

Now, to work out A and B;

A ≈ Fold Equity x Pot Size

B ≈ (x)(y + z)

x ≈ 1 - FE

y ≈ Equity(multiplied by Pot Size + Our new contribution to it)
so y ≈ Equity(Pot Size + Remaining Stack)

z ≈ (1 - Equity)(Remaining Stack)

From this we can construct Simple Formula Number 1.

EV ≈ (Fe x Pot) + x(y + z)

Now we have that out of the way can examine what FE and Equity are.

Fe ≡ % of hands villain will continue with.

Fe ≈ % of time villain thinks he is not ahead or does not have a strong enough draw to continue with or bluffcall with.

Fe ≈ 1 - [Ø(D + S+B)] D = % Villain has Draw he will play.
S = % villain thinks he has Strongest hand. B = % Villain will Bluffcall.
Ø = % How often we make this push play.

Equity ≡ Chance we will win.

Eq ≡ % chance μ Beats φ.

μ ≈ Our Hand range. Determined by interpretation of image of opponent/ stats of opponent, our adjustment to our opponents image and our propensity to bluff against opponent.

μ ≈ [k + α(shr - ρ)] + [k2 + α2(shr - ρ)]

k = starting hand range played against average opponent
k2 = Hand range we bluff against average opponent
α = % adjustment in terms of hands we play "valuewise"
α2 = % adjustment in terms of hands we play "bluffwise"
ρ = opponents deemed % of played hands
shr = opponents % of played hands

φ ≡ Our opponents Hand range which is determined by the same factors we use to adjust our Hand range to his image except that we replace k with g. He has already invested money into the pot so will have to play with more hands.

g / g2 = opponent handrange.

φ ≈ [g + α(shr - ρ)] + [g2 + α2(shr - ρ)]

please note - for φ [g2 + α2(shr - ρ)] is reffering to bluffcall range rather than bluffing range.

Now we have established what determines some ranges we can compare the difference. Lets see if we can get something to work;

Difference between μ and φ. (μ : φ)/2 This gives us our % of hands played.

Eq ≈ 1 - [(μ : φ)/2]

Assumption; The smaller our handrange the more often we win. The lower the % the closer more often we have the absolute nuts so win. Neither player ever makes a mistake.

Yay! A lovely little formula for Eq! This makes me so happy. Even though its gonna be wrong because of our assumption. Now i have to think through Fe again so i can see if i can draw any comparisons to Eq.

Fe ≈ (1 - φ) = % hands opponent folds with.

Ok, now I'm going to create the not so simple simple little EV formula 2 to and plug in some arbitrary numbers to see what happens, playing around with different variables to help me think. Remember Formula 1;

EV ≈ (Fe X Pot) + x(y - z) x ≈ 1 - FE
y ≈ Equity(Pot Size + Remaining Stack)
z ≈ (1 - Equity)(Remaining Stack)

P = pot R = remaining stack in this formula.

Ev = [(1 -φ) x P] + φ[(1 - [(μ : φ)/2])(P+R) + R[1- [1 - [(μ : φ)/2]]

Ok, i am now going to go to bed, I shall return again and work myself a sample formula for g. It is required for me to test my model which is trying to prove that;

α = % adjustment in terms of hands we play

Is important.

I'm tired now! What wonders a bit of mathematical rambling can do to help you sleep! Especially for people like me who are terrible at math lol. Good luck at the tables everyone!


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Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

It's just not FAIR that someone can have nice bloq like you or Gerv!

So I will try to answer your questions.

Question 1)

yes the new party look is gross feeder , I'm not certain but I think its rather CPU&RAM matter than GPU&RAM. And Ofc. your HUD is maybe importing every single hand "real-time". here's etting to do it after 5 hands and so on.. but I'm buing new computer also, I can't handle this lags.

Question 2)

You're right, I didn't read it


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

'Now, to work out A and B;

A ≈ Fold Equity x Pot Size'

I don't think that's right. I think the more common/appropriate phrasing would be A = fold equity = fold probability X pot size, with fold probability element of [0,1]


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swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

ya, party just sucks monkeyballs when it comes to performance...probably a bug that makes it not erase whatever's not needed anymore from the ram, and just bad coding that makes it use way more cpu power than necessary...but getting them to fix it is another story...
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Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

Originally posted by swissmoumout
ya, party just sucks monkeyballs when it comes to performance...probably a bug that makes it not erase whatever's not needed anymore from the ram, and just bad coding that makes it use way more cpu power than necessary...but getting them to fix it is another story...
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So Quad Core (Q6600) would be definitely better than Duo Core (E7200-E8400), Am I right or Am I right? :)

I'm currently playing also Party but I look for a switch, If you want really heavy multitabling than you wouldn't find that amount of good tables there :(


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swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

it'll be better, sure.. but just to give you an idea, I got a quad-core amd (9600+ methinks), 4gb ram etc.. despite that, I got a 2nd computer so I could have ONLY poker on that one.. yep, even a quad-core doesn't always keep up with party software -_-


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