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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

So this was a weird hand, I have AAT5 single suited, I am not against 4-betting this hand to get it in but I wanted to avoid the swings, lol the irony, it would have cost me 100bb if I lost AI but instead I paid 160bb or so. :crazy:

PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 136.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.67, 3Bet Preflop: 9.89, Hands: 241)
Hero (CO): 163 BB
BTN: 146.2 BB (VPIP: 52.46, PFR: 17.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 124)
SB: 117.4 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 27.6 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♥ A♠ A♥ 5♥

fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, BTN calls 3.4 BB, SB raises to 14.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 11.2 BB, BTN calls 11.2 BB

Flop: (44.8 BB, 3 players) 8♣ T♠ 5♣
SB bets 43 BB, Hero raises to 148.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 131.6 BB and is all-in, SB calls 59.8 BB and is all-in

Turn: (410.8 BB, 3 players) 3♠

River: (410.8 BB, 3 players) 2♦

Spoiler

Hero shows T♥ A♠ A♥ 5♥ (Two Pair, Tens and Fives)

Main Pot [353.2 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 36%, Turn 33%)
Side Pot#1 [57.6 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 50%, Turn 43%)

BTN shows 6♠ K♣ 4♠ 3♣ (Straight, Six High)

Main Pot [353.2 BB]: (Pre 37%, Flop 37%, Turn 50%)
Side Pot#1 [57.6 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 50%, Turn 58%)

SB shows 9♣ 9♠ 2♣ J♥ (One Pair, Nines)

Main Pot [353.2 BB]: (Pre 25%, Flop 27%, Turn 17%)

BTN wins 394.8 BB

Besides 4-betting pre which I will definitely do now having seen this fish's 3-bet OOP. But to expand, how do you play flop with deep stack behind. I have middle two and at the time with multiple tables running I was running out of timebank and just decided that the best decision was to GII on the flop vs what I assume is a very top heavy 3-bet range.

I think my flat pre to then pot raise flop kind of disregards my flat preflop but I had to protect my hand on the flop from what I thought was a hand that would fold.


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After SB pots on the flop, he is never folding.
He only needs 24% after your shove and when BU calls 17%.

SB is SPR 2.3, so you need 41% to stack off here.
You will have that against most off his range.

I don't know how or if BU affects your decision.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

You need to isolate By 4-betting. Now BTN gets the right price to call with everything he has, which leads into trouble especially deep OOP against him. By 4betting you make his decision harder and flop will be SPR under 1 where you cant make mistake, and SB might just shove pre. It's nasty if SB has AA too, but more likely in PLO5 and his stats he is just a whale who is doing this with random junk hand.


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Originally posted by SeagalSteven
You need to isolate By 4-betting. Now BTN gets the right price to call with everything he has, which leads into trouble especially deep OOP against him. By 4betting you make his decision harder and flop will be SPR under 1 where you cant make mistake, and SB might just shove pre. It's nasty if SB has AA too, but more likely in PLO5 and his stats he is just a whale who is doing this with random junk hand.

I understand I should've 4-bet pre but I was wanting to ask how you think I should play on the flop. What should I consider with the deeper stack to my left.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

The idea of not 4betting a hand like that when you can get a lot of your stack in to "avoid swings" is terrible here, as calling is a worse play on EV for sure then 4betting. Especially since you are facing a squeeze here your 4bet can be bigger then usual, therefore the fact that you are 150 deep makes the spr pretty much the same as if you faced a regular 3bet being only slighly more than 100 deep. And it's not like you have the worst aces out there either.

Postflop there's nothig alse you can do than what you just did.

But i have to say again that not 4betting here is just terrible. Keep in mind that if you get both callers you don't have to be stubborn and ship every flop if it's really terrible for you.


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Yeh not 4-betting was a stupid move and one I don't understand looking back on it now haha. Hey well, we move on.


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