JJ 3-bet CO vs BU

both draws get ther, there Q on board, only hands we beat calling flop and turn are TT,99, but i guess he would checked them down, so fold here is correct imo

Yeah, definitely fold... he c/c you twice, and bets when the draw gets there, plus he could show up with stuff like 87

I actually like your bet on the turn, because i think you would also bet your bluffs on the turn. But the river is definitly a fold vs. this guy. All draws got there. And people bluff less often with this line. So when his bluffs you, so be it.

On nl10 his line is mostly for value. So folding is right.
Draws got there and we cannot call.

Fold is good. Villain doesn't bluff here often.

Why bet less than half-pot on the flop and plenty more than half pot on turn? The other way around is much better (two spades are a very small part of his range), and you are essentially not value betting on the turn.

It is standard in 3-bet pots to bet between 1/3 and 1/2 pot on the flop. the turncard hit my range much better than his so that's why i'm am betting slighty more than half pot there.

Would also bet a bit more OTF than OTT. Further, I would've played the same and fold OTR.

Originally posted by crazyguy
It is standard in 3-bet pots to bet between 1/3 and 1/2 pot on the flop. the turncard hit my range much better than his so that's why i'm am betting slighty more than half pot there.

Standard cbet size for flop is 1/2 in 3b pot. 1/3 is for 4b...or mw on dry boards where you can easily go AI by river.

Originally posted by crazyguy
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does villain ever do this with worse?

Yes, when he is bluffing. That river is a pretty good card to bluff on, and not all draws got there. He can easily have a hand like 9♦:8♦:. You should still fold J♣:J♥: imo.

Bet sizes should be such that villain cannot profitably draw to beat you if you are ahead (in which case you are rooting for a call), or such that the EV for a bluff is maximized and higher than zero (in which case you are rooting for a fold unless you think you can profitably double or triple barrel, in which case you are again rooting for a call). Possibly stack depth has an influence, but it doesn't rule alone. Screw everything that is advertised as standard. "Standard" may be good for some hands and boards (like perhaps flopped nuts exactly 100bb deep before the hand).