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QQ in the CO Vs BB betting flop. Call,Call,Call??

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Hi guys,
Kingardo in here, posting my first hand and introducing myself.

PokerStars - €0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 91.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
BB: 64.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 132 BB (VPIP: 45.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 20)
Hero (CO): 115.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6♠ 9♣ T♣
BB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 6♥
BB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

River: (34.5 BB, 2 players) 7♣
BB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

POKERSTARS ZOOM

PREFLOP:
I raise to 3BB, as per NL Begginer Strategy states, he calls.

FLOP:
After BB bets pots sice I don´t really know what to do, I´ve got overpair, but I think BB could have called preflop with any 66,99,TT,T9s, AT+,KTs+, maybe he bets big to protect the flush draw??, I just call.

TURN:
6h, I don´t think it changes a lot the situation, he bets I call.

RIVER:
7c, completes the flush draw (I personally don´t think he has the flush, but I wouldn´t be 100% sure), he bets I call.

I don´t really now, if there was another way to play this hand, maybe re-raise in the flop afterhe bets.

Anyway, thanks for helping.

See you on the tables ;)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Raising on the flop is a natural reaction, but quite wrong. (You'll frequently see it in hand discussions, including people arguing strongly for it.) This is not the time to build a big pot. If he is bluffing, keep him bluffing. If he is betting a draw, well, then he has paid for drawing in advance and you aren't really giving free cards. Besides, you don't know is betting a draw. He might be betting the nuts in which case raising is insanely wrong from a monetary perspective. (Again, you don't know.) Keep these possibilities in mind.

Those arguing for a flop raise may say that you get the most "information" by raising. Blatantly true that is, but what does it cost you? It costs you more than the information is worth.

Flop and turn, well played. River is probably a fold, but his bet is small and calling can not be a huge mistake.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like the flop raise too. It is an expensive way to collect contradictory info and not realize your equity.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think this was well played. Villain might be a bit fishy (stack size). River card is ugly but villain bets pretty small and there is a good chance he does this with a worse hand. I would call here.


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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the answers.

Another question raise my mind when I was rewing it again:

WHAT IF I WAS HOLDING AJs-A7s, I would have raise the same way, BB calls me and bets straight away on a flop (8h 3s 5c), I´m holding a made hand (middle pair), should I raise just in case he is betting me to get me out of a "bad flop", and protect this pot from posible high cards coming from Turn and River. Or should I keep calling, or folding?

Anyway, lots of questions on my mind hahahaha, I´m starting myself and I see myself understanding quite well the theory (BSBegginerStrategy) but I´m still fishing in some situations hahahaha

I´ll keep playing and analysing, I´ll keep posting hands, THANKS A LOT


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Kingardo
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WHAT IF I WAS HOLDING AJs-A7s, I would have raise the same way, BB calls me and bets straight away on a flop (8h 3s 5c), I´m holding a made hand (middle pair), should I raise just in case he is betting me to get me out of a "bad flop", and protect this pot from posible high cards coming from Turn and River. Or should I keep calling, or folding?
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Don't fall into the trap of betting and raising weak hands and slowplaying and chucking and jiving with strong hands. You'd be the easiest opponent in the world to beat. There are times for deceptive moves, but they should be exceptions rather than the rule. If you have nothing with no draws, just fold. If he bluffs you out with an even worse hand, well, he's allowed to win some pots too - he's even allowed to make a few good plays of his own. The way to defend against these maneuvers is to be loose enough preflop that you hit a few trash flops yourself. But this can wait until you get more experience.


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Nice one YohanN7, thanks for answering, I needed to hear it, :f_smile::f_smile:. I went back to the Theory part, and re-read it again, I found it too, I need to learn how to leave those hands,

I´ll remember it, maybe my bankroll gets a bit happier too


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