KQs BB Vs Several players, Is there odds? Is it a good idea?

I prefer to squeeze in this situation. We are suited, we have blockers, we have decent playability.

Thanks nitrol, quick question though, what is a blocker? Just starting in here hahahahaha:f_thumbsup:

Originally posted by Kingardo
Thanks nitrol, quick question though, what is a blocker? Just starting in here hahahahaha:f_thumbsup:

We have K and Q in our hand so our opponents have less combinations of strong hands like KK, QQ, AQ or AK in his range.

Yes, we decrease the possibility that our opponent has KK, QQ, AK, AQ. But this does not hecannot have these...

p.s. I prefer to squeeze as we will be out of position postflop and I prefer to have the initiative too.

We could squeeze it as nitrol said (meaning 3bet bigger when there is a raiser and a caller preflop) but I think just calling is ok too. wjd1990 explained blockers pretty well. Basically it means that when we have a K and a Q, it is less likely for villain to have one.

Thank you all for your help, learned a lot.

I'll keep, reading and posting

Thanks again

This is an ideal situation for a call. (Folding is criminal.) Squeezing is pretty bad because you will virtually never take it down preflop against 3 players already in, you'll instead pretty much every time be facing tough postflop decisions out of position whether you hit a pair or not (if you don't you usually have K high). Squeezing costs some 15bb, a call costs 2bb. If the preflop opener calls, the rest are likely to follow like little lambs (pot odds). This is probably to prefer before having only one caller due to the nature of your hand.

What I am saying is that KQs isn't a value raise 4-handed OOP. It has an element of bluff. That element of bluff doesn't succeed often enough.

We are vs all late positions. Our squeeze will win this preflop enough times.

this is villian dependent if there is a fish in the hand (that calls with a very wide range) then i like a squeeze to isolate the fish.
if you have no reads, then flatting is good as you have a hand that you can try to make a big hand with post flop, as QKs plays very well multiway, and has great implied odds with 3 villians in the hand.

Originally posted by nitrol
We are vs all late positions. Our squeeze will win this preflop enough times.

And how much is "enough times" do you think?

Some math: Say, for simplicity, that each opponent will fold 75% of their range (independently). The probability that they all fold would then be (3/4)(3/4)(3/4) = 27/64. This is far from autoprofit since you need much more than 50% folds for that (about 15bb into a 10bb pot for a squeeze).

What about 80% folds individually and independently?
(4/5)(4/5)(4/5) = 64/125
Now we are getting closer, but we aren't quite there. But we are also getting unrealistic. See what I mean?

Oops, double post.

For a beginner I think Yohan's math holds up pretty well. A squeeze here also really is a much tougher way to start the pot. Only likely to be profitable if you know what kind of opponents you are facing and judge your ability to outplay them post flop to be good.