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Missed draw bluff river

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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.26 (105.2 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.05 (101 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.40) 3 2 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.70) T (2 players)
SB bets $1.35, Hero calls $1.35

River: ($5.40) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.45, SB folds

Results:

Spoiler

$5.40 pot ($0.22 rake)
Final Board: 3 2 5 T 3
SB mucked and lost (-$2.60 net)
Hero mucked Q A and won $5.18 ($2.58 net)

Villain 18/18, 3bet 10, sqz 25(4), postflop agg% 42... Only 45 hands

My thoughts:
Pre: standard call
Flop & turn: we have FD+gutshot, we have good odds to call both streets
River: He most likely has an overpair, maybe a set sometimes.. He checks and if I check back I lose my the pot for sure. What do you think about bluffing here? I only have half a pot left so my bluff has to work only 33% of the time? What do you think, is this bluff profitable in the long run?

Ps. I'm a bit lost with my math. How often does villain have to be right if he decides to call my bluff?


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by la55i

Ps. I'm a bit lost with my math. How often does villain have to be right if he decides to call my bluff?

He needs about 23%. If he had an overpair, huge mistake he did without proper info. It was risky. I'd raise MP pre and this dude on the flop to generate larger folding equity and continue bluffing on the turn as well on the river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

If we know that SB likes to squeeze we can 3bet preflop.
On flop we can raise nut draws and weak draws too.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by la55i

Ps. I'm a bit lost with my math. How often does villain have to be right if he decides to call my bluff?

He needs about 23%. If he had an overpair, huge mistake he did without proper info. It was risky. I'd raise MP pre and this dude on the flop to generate larger folding equity and continue bluffing on the turn as well on the river.

Thanks. My brain didn't work at the time. Now I got it. :)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

You are essentially targeting 66/77/88/99/AK. This is 36 combos. He has JJ/QQ/KK/AA + :Jx: to call (bluff catch) with. This is X combos. I think X < 72. Adjust the number 36 (weight the probabilities that he fires twice with the 36 combos you target) . Adjust the other number (does he check AA/KK OTR etc).

Oh man, this boils down to pure guesswork. I think I'd check to get to see his hand for sure, and take a note for next time:)


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

You have around 51% equity against a range of QQ+ on the flop so I'd be looking to raise and get it in there.

I don't think he's ever folding an overpair on the river btw. I also disagree that if you check back you lose the pot as often as you think. This villain is perfectly capable of squeezing with AJ etc.


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

Why are you even discussing overpairs on the river, he just doesn't have those. The question is whether he plays AK like that and whether he folds it on the river. If we're not sure, AQ is not the hand to bluff with because we have decent showdown value, bluff with something else.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Originally posted by kriko92
Why are you even discussing overpairs on the river, he just doesn't have those.

That's a bizarre claim to make. He 3bet preflop, bet two streets and then checked when the draws bricked out. It's a pretty standard line to take with an overpair.


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

I would be very very surprised to see JJ+ bet this small on flop/turn and then check river on that board (from nl5 reg-ish player). If we think he can show up with those then bluffing AQ makes no sense at all - he won't fold them.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would put overpairs to his range. If I recall correctly, villain thought about his fold veeeery long. If he had A high or a busted draw I think he would have folded quicker. My bluff wasn't good but I think he folded a better hand here.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by kriko92
I would be very very surprised to see JJ+ bet this small on flop/turn and then check river on that board (from nl5 reg-ish player). If we think he can show up with those then bluffing AQ makes no sense at all - he won't fold them.

I would be surprised if there aren't JJ+ in his squeeze range. Some have 88+


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