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SH Zoom QQ, BTN Facing Cold 4bet

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.57 (105.7 bb)
BB: $18.46 (184.6 bb)
UTG: $12.25 (122.5 bb)
MP: $3.51 (35.1 bb)
CO: $35.47 (354.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $13.47 (134.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB folds, BB raises to $1.65, MP folds, Hero ??

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Hero raises to $3.40, BB calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.05) 6 8 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.05) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $3.23, Hero ??

Preflop: Decided to 3bet and try to get it in vs MP fish, but then the BB decided to cold 4bet. We are a bit deep and he is unknown, so I think it's best to call, but in the hand decided to 4bet.

Flop: I didn't hit an overpair, so I don't think I should cbet. If I would hit an overpair, I believe I should put a small (below 1/2 pot) bet.

Turn: He decided to probe bet and since AK is probably a big part of his preflop 4bet/calling range, I think my plan should be to try to get to the showdown by checking and give up to any aggression, so I believe I should fold.

BB: 33/33/6 (VPIP/PFR/H)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You cannot fold here. He has 13 combos of QQ+ and 16 combos of AK.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I wouldn't fold here.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

PLus he can have bluff range...


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

What river? We are still preflop... :)


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

IS the author contemplating either to call or shove? I wouldn't suspect anyone could fold those Queens in that situation


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
What river? We are still preflop... :)
I thought that we are discussing turn play... :)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I didn't see the Spoiler. I would cbet flop...


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
I didn't see the Spoiler. I would cbet flop...

Could you explain the reason behind? Value or protection? Or both?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

One reason to bet is that he checked. This indicates that you may have the best hand. This is never a bad reason to bet. Another (secondary or ternary!) reason to bet would be to stop bluffs. Calling subsequent bets is difficult, making this a possibly profitable bluff spot for villain if you check.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Agree with above and we set the price. We are not comfortable calling and not knowing where we are.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by YohanN7
One reason to bet is that he checked. This indicates that you may have the best hand. This is never a bad reason to bet. Another (secondary or ternary!) reason to bet would be to stop bluffs. Calling subsequent bets is difficult, making this a possibly profitable bluff spot for villain if you check.

Originally posted by nitrol
Agree with above and we set the price. We are not comfortable calling and not knowing where we are.

OK, something between value bet, protection bet and blocking bet! I agree with it and I would probably do it in a 3bet pot. In 4bet pot I wasn't sure what would be the best move. I could now imagine he has something like AK-AQ, JJ. In the hand I was affraid of slowplayed KK+, but I would expect him to shove that and not to be tricky since I had shown him a villingnes to stack off.


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