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Pocket aces oop with almost a 300bb raise on river

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MajesticOdds
Joined: 02.03.2015

(BTN) $1.88 - VP:0 PFR:0 AF: W: STL: 3B: CB: N:0 Hands:1
(SB) $1.07 - VP:38 PFR:28 AF:Inf. W:17|100 STL:44| 3B:0|67 CB:50| N:0.29 Hands:29
(BB) $1.83 - VP: PFR: AF: W: STL: 3B: CB: N:0
(UTG) $3.19 - VP:20 PFR:10 AF: W:50|100 STL:0|50 3B:20| CB:0| N:-0.21 Hands:10
Hero(MP) $5.94
Villain(CO) $5.94 - VP:50 PFR:50 AF: W: STL:100|100 3B:0| CB: N:0 Hands:2

Pre Flop: Hero(MP) with [Ah,Ac]
(UTG) folds, Hero(MP) raises 0.06, Villain(CO) calls 0.06, (BTN) folds, (SB) folds, (BB) calls 0.04

Flop: (5s,9c,2h) (3 players) (Pot 0.19)
(BB) checks, Hero(MP) bets 0.12, Villain(LP) calls 0.12, (BB) folds

Turn: 8s (2 players) (Pot 0.43)
Hero(EP) bets 0.20, Villain(LP) calls 0.20

River: 5d (2 players) (Pot 0.83)
Hero(EP) bets 0.30, Villain(LP) raises 5.56, Hero(EP) folds

Final:
Returns 5.26 to (CO)
(CO) wins 1.38

I lost a lot with pocket aces post flop in the past thinking my opponent was making it look like bluff shoving, was I wrong in this spot? It was especially hard because its almost a 300BB/3 buy-ins bet with only top pair. Was that too tight considering I know next to nothing about my opponent ?(


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think unknown villain at NL2 can do this with any overpair and sometimes as a bluff, but he has some hands that beat us also. 67 got there on the turn, would he have raised us when he hit straight and FD came in? Would he raise with sets? Would he call OTT with 5x? I think you can bet bigger OTT and OTR, sometimes your small bet OTR will induce villain to raise. You have invested only 34bb to this hand so I think you can let it go since we are very deep but I think calling would not be a huge mistake.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Moved your hand to the hand discussion board, because it’s fits better there.
As cash game fish I would bet turn and river more for value and folding on his shove on river as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Pretty easy fold for 260BB to an unknown villain at micros. If he's bluffing then good for him.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I think that stacking off with this hand postflop is way different thing than stacking off preflop.
Draws got there, board is paired. ... we fold and move on.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

To OP: It would be almost irresponsible for anyone to speculate about calling. When it comes to hero calls and gigantic laydowns, you simply must be on your own because it is all based on reads and meta-game when done right. There is no meta-game here (two hands on this guy) so I dare say it takes an idiot to call.

By the opposite side of same token, overbetting massively with absolute nuts can sometimes be the optimal play.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like overbetting with nuts on micro limits.


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This seems like a good lay down here. Bet a little more for value on the turn, maybe the river too, But easy lay down to his shove.


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MajesticOdds
Joined: 02.03.2015

Thanks yall, I definitely need to bet a lil higher on the river, I thought the turn was ok because I wanted him to call so I just betted half pot for value and the second 5 on the river scared me a bit thats why I betted pretty small OTR, I just had a bad feeling and I wanted to bet smaller for protection but I think that was a mistake.


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wimNP
Joined: 11.03.2011

I do not understand your basic strategy.
a. SH-full stack micro's strategy: steal the blinds LemOn36
b. SH-deep stack micro's strategy: try to get Villain in a -EV commitment desicion

ad a. Hero's stack is way to deep
ad b. Hero's betsizings are way to small


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

There's not really any such thing as having "too deep a stack" if you have an edge in the games and are properly bankrolled.


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