KK vs AJ - Yet another losing hand !!!

If u only putted him on JJ, 99 and J9, u played totally wrong and should have folded.

IMO, its correct the 3bet all in cause a good amount of draws are possible w J and 9 together on flop... besides that, note that we are, in fact, really happy w hands like AJ, that we are 79,20% favorite in this situation. These hands are also totally possible, making the raise a correct move.

Maybe, for ur surprise, u didnt made ANY mistake. Played perfectly. Just got the bad side of variance acting in this particular hand.
Better luck next time.

Well played, his raise on flop is huge and when this happens you usually stack some overplayed top pair. I would advise you to play with a full stack - 100 bbs.

Well played IMO. You were favorite. About the reading skills you will have to work on indeed. Think more in terms of % of ranges instead of cards alone. This may gives you a broader view of what villain could have.

Was this heads up?

I only put him on JJ or 99 or J9

Well, you are way behind if you put him on this only. Thankfully he can have AJ, KJ, QJ here too. I like the ideaof stacking him on flop.

Originally posted by kriko92
I would advise you to play with a full stack - 100 bbs.

This is propaganda spread to make it easy to identify regs and fish. Your win rate increases the lower your stack is (assuming all players' skill level is equal). That's why short stacking is restricted on most poker sites.

You only put him on JJ or 99? Um....both those hands beat you on the flop. Anyway, other than that, you played well. You had an overpair, he had top pair/kicker. He just got lucky on the river.

Originally posted by NothingIsForSho

Originally posted by kriko92
I would advise you to play with a full stack - 100 bbs.

This is propaganda spread to make it easy to identify regs and fish. Your win rate increases the lower your stack is (assuming all players' skill level is equal). That's why short stacking is restricted on most poker sites.

I can guarantee u that the bigger the stack sizes, making the play more deep, the better for good players.

And thats not "why short stacking is restricted on most poker sites". The sites dont give a shit from who is winning. Its restricted to force the rake to go higher (thats what matters for them).

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by NothingIsForSho

Originally posted by kriko92
I would advise you to play with a full stack - 100 bbs.

This is propaganda spread to make it easy to identify regs and fish. Your win rate increases the lower your stack is (assuming all players' skill level is equal). That's why short stacking is restricted on most poker sites.

I can guarantee u that the bigger the stack sizes, making the play more deep, the better for good players.

And thats not "why short stacking is restricted on most poker sites". The sites dont give a shit from who is winning. Its restricted to force the rake to go higher (thats what matters for them).

It allows you to go all in vs fish with big stacks yes but that's the only positive. I don't think it's true about the rake being the reason for restriction of short stacking. If you short stack you can go all in more often, meaning that you pay the same amount of rake on average in the long run anyway. In addition, the rake you pay short stacking won't be capped either so you may even pay more rake, but it probably evens out approximately.

I would quote Ben86 on this subject, who says (approximately) "For a long time people didn't understand it (referring to why the pros were not reloading), so I just kept it a secret, but everyone gets it now ... The reason is because when you don't reload your win rate goes up."

No limit Starter Course with LemOn36 is a fine way to start a poker carier.

Preflop
Why don't you have a full stack? Hero's stack is smaller than Villain's.
I suppose Villain is an unknown.
KK is a premium hand. So raising to 3bb from MP is oke.

Flop (pot: 14c)
H has position over Villain. Hero is the preflop aggressor.
H has an overpair on a rainbow board.
V checks. H bets about 70% of the pot. That is a nice sized continuation bet.

V raises to 6.5x H's bet. This is a huge overbet. The pot is now 89c. It costs H 55c to call. H's stack is $1.64.

The best hand V could have is a set of Jacks. Then H has two outs with a 8% chance on improving. However JJ is just one of the many starting hands V could have. Hero should not pitch his hand against only one possible hand from Villain.
As Villain is an unknown, he could slowplay a pocket pair of aces. If Villain calls a preflop MP-raise with a range of 22+, A2s+, x9s+ and xTo+ ( = 22% ). Eliminating all starting hands that are not TT+, AK, a pair+ or a straightdraw gives Villain a total of 12% of the possible hands.
Equilab gives Hero a winchance of 71%. Hero needs i.c. an equity of 39%. So a call is here profitable.
However nasty cards may come on the turn and/or the river. So Hero has to protect his hand with a reraise.

If Hero reraises 2.5x the raise-size ( = the cost of calling) he has to raise to $1.37. This leaves him with a stack of 27c. In such a case it is better to go all-in.

Which you did. Well played.

By the way, Poker is not about winning pots as many as possible but rather making good -- and thus in the long run profitable -- decisions.

Getting Started in Hold'Em by Ed Miller
first edition
page 118
"No limit hold'em is actually two veery different games. The first one is complex. full of loose preflop play, trapping, daring bluffs, and other chicanery. The second one is surprisingly simple, ..., and it requires only that you play tightly and bet your good hands.
When you buy into a no limit game, you choose which one you want to play. Buy a lot of chips, and you will be playing the complicated game. Buy the minimum, and you will need only a simple strategy to win. ... the size of your stack dictates your best strategy at no limit.
...
A small stack will usually be enough to make bets preflop and on the flop only, so it will leave you all-in on the turn and river. A big stack is enough for bets on all streets. This is the fundamental reason for the different stategies: Small stack no limit hold'em is a game of only two betting rounds, while big stack no limit hold'em has four rounds."

page 120
"... on average, big stacks tend te generate tricky decisions and therefore benefit those who consistently make superior plays in though spots -- the best players at the table."

I mean saying that better players are going to make better decisions when deep stacks are in play isn't anything extraordinary. That just says given that all players are equal stacks the better players do better, ie. no shit, if you pardon the language.

That doesn't actually tell you what relative stack size is the best vs other players who have 100bb stacks. As Ben86 explains it (and I can link you the video if you want), if you were allowed to buy in for 2bbs each time without a penalty, you would crush any game. Yet on every hand review where Hero is not 100bbs deep, no mater how the hand is played the first thing people say is "Why aren't you reloading to 100bbs?" as if it will increase your win rate. If you actually don't reload you will either win money and get back to 100bbs, or lose money because of variance until such a time where your win rate goes up. It just shows that most people haven't thought about this at all.

And again the reason I'm going on and on about this is just that I hate seeing the mindless comment "Why aren't you at 100bbs?" on every single hand review as if they think they're making some useful comment.

Originally posted by NothingIsForSho
And again the reason I'm going on and on about this is just that I hate seeing the mindless comment "Why aren't you at 100bbs?" on every single hand review as if they think they're making some useful comment.

Man, in this spot, hero had 79,20% equity. He win much, much money in this situation on long run.
Now, imagine the EV with the given stack of 1,80:
1,80 x 79,2 = 142,56
-1,80 x 20,8 = -37,44
EV = 105,12

This time, however, the EV with a complete stack (2,00):
2,00 x 79,2 = 158,4
-2,00 x 20,8 = -41,6
EV = 116,8

Note that hero win MORE MONEY on long run, doing the SAME play, just by having a complete stack.

What u are going to do about it? hahaha

Originally posted by Afulibador

What u are going to do about it? hahaha

Remind me never to post on this website ever again if i ever come back

Guys,

Thanks so much for the analysis. I understand that my play was correct but my read was a bit bad.
@DarkNeo - Btw this was a 6 handed game. Not a heads-up.

Looks like I played it fine.

Thanks

Originally posted by NothingIsForSho

Originally posted by kriko92
I would advise you to play with a full stack - 100 bbs.

This is propaganda spread to make it easy to identify regs and fish. Your win rate increases the lower your stack is (assuming all players' skill level is equal). That's why short stacking is restricted on most poker sites.

Smaller stack can be profitable if you know what you're doing. More profitable? I'm not an expert on short stack play but still I don't think so. At least on micros the bigger is definitely the better because stacking fish deeper is really important for your winrate. That's not the main thing here though.

Winrate is not the most important thing when you begin to study the game. That's why I've always hated the advice "It's nl2/5/10, don't think too much, just valuebet and win". Becoming a better player is what it's all about. Try out stuff, make mistakes when they are still cheap. That got a little off-topic but what I wanted to say is that I believe it's best for the learning process to play 100 bbs. Most of the strategy out there is made for 100bbs and also playing deeper makes you study harder concepts. That's if we compare BSS to MSS play for example. Randomly playing 70/80 bbs without knowing how to play this stack makes no sense of course.

Originally posted by NothingIsForSho
Your win rate increases the lower your stack is (assuming all players' skill level is equal).

that's actually theoretically true (which also assumes that you will play at the same skill level at all stack sizes, which is a pretty strong assumption), but the key is the bolded part.
i think it's rational to play in games where you have a decent edge, and in that case deeper stacks will give you a higher increase in winrate than the theoretical advantage gained by playing shorter would.

Looks good. Stacking is fine here.