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$2.5 180-man Turbo - 3bet shove with 88 for 20bb effective

 
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mylove190207
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02.02.2016, 14:55

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds + t20 - 8 players
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UTG: t1329 M = 2.89
UTG+1: t2546 M = 5.53
MP1: t2303 M = 5.01 VP: 13/PR: 6/ hands: 38
Hero (MP2): t3974 M = 8.64
CO: t6140 M = 13.35
BTN: t5172 M = 11.24
SB: t2109 M = 4.58
BB: t4121 M = 8.96

Pre Flop: (t460) Hero is MP2 with 8♥ 8♦
2 folds, MP1 raises to t444, Hero raises to t3954 all in, 4 folds, MP1 calls t1839 all in

Can we expect r/f range from opponent with 12bb? Or has he just r/c range with top of the shoving range?
I don't think that opponent will r/f here. So more of the question would be how wide is his range here? Does he do it with 77+, AT+? If yes then we still can't 3bet shove 88 here. I think that here I make a mistake. I think that my 3bet range should not be wider than JJ+, AK. He is probably shoving low EV open shoves and because of that I think that his open raising range is very strong.

What do you think?

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02.02.2016, 22:00

any stats on villain/ villain is unknown?


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03.02.2016, 03:56

Sorry about that. Those stats are for opponent not mine :f_p: will edit post now.


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03.02.2016, 03:58

For other stats I don't have sample.


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03.02.2016, 10:11

It’s already suspicious that he don’t open shoves here for 12bb effective. I don’t know if you have seen him raise before with 12bb or shoved for this amount, but in most cases you up against a pretty tight range and I don’t want to gamble with a hand like 88 here. So your range of JJ+ and AK is most likely a lot better to re-shove here without any reads on him.

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UPAY4DINNER
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03.02.2016, 14:39

Originally posted by SDK1987
It’s already suspicious that he don’t open shoves here for 12bb effective. I don’t know if you have seen him raise before with 12bb or shoved for this amount, but in most cases you up against a pretty tight range and I don’t want to gamble with a hand like 88 here. So your range of JJ+ and AK is most likely a lot better to re-shove here without any reads on him.

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This if he is a reg. It looks like a reggy move.


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