[OFFICIAL Support Thread] ICMIZER 2 - SNG analysis tool & SNG coach

Originally posted by slippyjim
ICMizer & SnG coach discrepancy
I was doing the SnG coach trial and I saw a few hands that seemed a bit weird so I then put the details in ICMizer afterwards and I got different results
case 1 - SnG coach says they are all pushes but ICMizer says all folds

Case 2 sng says 66 is a push ICMizer says no

Case 3 ICMizer says ATC, SnG says no

Whats wrong, have I mistunderstood or done something wrong?

Hi. Here there is nothing wrong. SNG Coach is using FGS setting on, and in your ICMIZER calculations the setting is off.
If you set it on the results will match.

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi Q,

In the sng coach, it allows us to icmize the question.
Could you possibly split the screen to sng coach and the calculation page so I can compare the ranges I edit in the icmizer calculator vs the sng coach range?

Thanks.

Hi. I am not sure what you are trying to achieve, could you elaborate more on your scenario? Note that you can launch multiple ICMIZERs on the same machine.

Originally posted by lihogyejev
Hello!

If I click on the button called "Calculate Nash equilibrium" the program load the ranges of the players, but those ranges are not exactly the same as the ranges, that this site show.

Here is a picture of the difference.

For which calculation should I believe?

Thanks for the advice!

Hi. You should believe ICMIZER 2 ranges. The ranges from the site use restricted ranges and ICMIZER 2 uses unrestricted (Full Nash) Nash equilibrium calculation.
This can be clearly seen in HU scenarios, where this error can reach two digit percentage size:

Huge ICMIZER 2 Update v2.5.0

• You can now perform calculations and find Nash ranges using FGS depth of 2
• You can now calculate hands and find Nash ranges for knockout tournaments with FGS depth 1 & 2
• Improved performance of FGS depth 1 calculations. For 9 player situations Nash ranges are now calculated more than 2x faster

Hi, Q

I've noticed sng coach loading time has become much slower than before.
Is there something within icmizer software or its my computer?

Thanks.

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi, Q

I've noticed sng coach loading time has become much slower than before.
Is there something within icmizer software or its my computer?

Thanks.

Hi. Yes, right now quiz questions are generated generally a little slower than before but this will be fixed in a few days.
Just to make sure, what kind of questions are you referring to, what tournament and how many players are at the table?

Hi Q,

Icmizer won't allow me to copy paste hands from clipboard.
All hands from the specific tournament will not copy hand text into icmizer. (saved 4 hands from this tournament for review)
Unable to load hands from provided text is the error message.

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Villain stack in the picture in the diagram is 3691.
Below that the stack size is 3716 P 16% range.
Why is villain stack different from the actual hand that I copied into icmizer.

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi Q,

Icmizer won't allow me to copy paste hands from clipboard.
All hands from the specific tournament will not copy hand text into icmizer. (saved 4 hands from this tournament for review)
Unable to load hands from provided text is the error message.

Thanks in advance.

Hi. Please send the text history file to our support email: support@icmpoker.com
I cannot help without the hand history text.

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi,

Villain stack in the picture in the diagram is 3691.
Below that the stack size is 3716 P 16% range.
Why is villain stack different from the actual hand that I copied into icmizer.

Hi. If I understand your question correctly, the table display is splitting stack into ante part and all-in part without ante.

Originally posted by Qicmizer

Hi. Here there is nothing wrong. SNG Coach is using FGS setting on, and in your ICMIZER calculations the setting is off.
If you set it on the results will match.

Does SNG Coach always have FGS selected?

Can you explain the results in this thread please - https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2532347#post2532347
Its a hyper with 1 BS and 2 SS yet ICMizer says the BS should call pretty tight, it just doesnt seem right

Originally posted by slippyjim

Originally posted by Qicmizer

Hi. Here there is nothing wrong. SNG Coach is using FGS setting on, and in your ICMIZER calculations the setting is off.
If you set it on the results will match.

Does SNG Coach always have FGS selected?

Hi. No, you can choose FGS on/off on the screen with gauges in the upper right corner.

Originally posted by slippyjim
Can you explain the results in this thread please - https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2532347#post2532347
Its a hyper with 1 BS and 2 SS yet ICMizer says the BS should call pretty tight, it just doesnt seem right

I've answered there.

Hi, Q

In the next icmizer update could you please change the villain 3bet range to appear when we hover mouse instead of clicking on the range to see the entire range? It allows the see the range on the final range and not for the 3bet range.

Thanks in advance

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi, Q

In the next icmizer update could you please change the villain 3bet range to appear when we hover mouse instead of clicking on the range to see the entire range? It allows the see the range on the final range and not for the 3bet range.

Thanks in advance

Hi.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will add this asap.

Hi Q,

One more suggestion ; allow us to move around range pop up so we can see the chart behind where the pop up appears.

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by Qicmizer

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi, Q

In the next icmizer update could you please change the villain 3bet range to appear when we hover mouse instead of clicking on the range to see the entire range? It allows the see the range on the final range and not for the 3bet range.

Thanks in advance

Hi.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will add this asap.

Changes haven't been made yet to see villains 3bet range.

Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by dddq8842

Originally posted by Qicmizer

Originally posted by dddq8842
Hi, Q

In the next icmizer update could you please change the villain 3bet range to appear when we hover mouse instead of clicking on the range to see the entire range? It allows the see the range on the final range and not for the 3bet range.

Thanks in advance

Hi.
Thank you for the suggestion, we will add this asap.

Changes haven't been made yet to see villains 3bet range.

Thanks in advance.

Hi
Expect that soon! As for range popup moved around, can't make any promises.

Okay.

Thanks again.

Originally posted by dddq8842
Okay.

Thanks again.

We've just added this in the latest update