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Thin valuebet on the river?

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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

PokerStars, $0.50 + $0.05 - Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (12 ante) - 9 players
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UTG: 3,344 (28 bb)
UTG+1: 5,144 (43 bb)
MP: 16,674 (139 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 5,000 (42 bb)
LP: 5,962 (50 bb)
CO: 5,000 (42 bb)
BU: 7,157 (60 bb)
SB: 1,216 (10 bb)
BB: 18,630 (155 bb)

Pre-Flop: (288) Hero is MP+1 with Q A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 528, 1 fold, Hero calls 528, 2 players fold, BTN calls 528, 2 players fold

Flop: (1,872) A K 4 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (1,872) 9 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 960, Hero calls 960, BU folds

River: (3,792) K (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: 3,792

Showdown:
UTG+1 shows 6 8 (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 7%, Turn: 20%, River: 0%)

MP+1 (Hero) shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 93%, Turn: 80%, River: 100%)

MP+1 (Hero) wins 3,792

I decided to call this 4,4x open raise with my AQs because villain is a fish. My plan was to play it cautiously. He can have strong hand on the flop like AK, AA, KK so I check behind. On the turn he bets only halfpot so i call with my TP Queen kicker. River king is very good card for me I guess but I was too scared he traps me so I just check back. Is it a mistake? Should I go here for thin valuebet?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

We are playing multi way on a coordinated board and I expect the original raiser would Cbet with at least top pair and I would go for a thin value bet on the flop and her-evaluate on further action in a micro tournament like this.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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lila28
Joined: 31.05.2013

I can see argument for starting to bet flop, in theses games you might get calls from Kx/Weak Ax or even worse hands more then you should.
As played i would consider raising small turn for value. You still can get value from AJ/AT/Draw, if he is bad player he might even call you Kx.


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mortzlefish
Joined: 25.10.2009

Personally i would never raise the turn here with having BU behind. He has more one pair type of hands than draws that he bets against 2 people. On the turn, AA,KK,99 still in the range. I prefer a call also because of river actions. even if he calls and River bricks, You Dont have a clear River bet anymore. Prefer call turn and call bets and if he checks, valuebet
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sebralane
Joined: 18.09.2009

My question is: What kind of hand you but button on? Is he/she a good player? a nit? a fishy?
If button is kinda loose, i would bet flop. If I get raised by button fold and if raised by utg I´d shove. But only considering the fact, that utg raised 4x pre and is kinda ??? player to me.
My logic would be: What kind of hand would open 4x utg? (logigally speaking) Tens,jacks and queens maybe? 4x pre shows alot about this opponent. Yes, they wake up with Aces,Kings and Ace-king from time to time but that´s top 1% of theyr range. And we kinda crush it on flop.


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

BTN's range is I think: 44+, 45s+, AJs+


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sebralane
Joined: 18.09.2009

considering all the facts here.
I think right play is to bet flop.
It might scare our customer from utg away but it´s like w/e


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