Thank you guys ![]()
@arthurbentley - Vs Maniacs and Whales i play a lot of hands and yeah playing with a maniac who cbet 80% or more i tend float a lot.
Originally posted by ChillingRabbit275
Why you play over 400.000 handds on NL2?
Y'know -- I used to play FL $0.10/$0.20 5-Card Draw all the time.
I did quite well, and just got into a rut of playing what was comfortable.
So I move up stakes and got thrashed, but when I recovered I did well again at the new limit.
I don't know about AgapieGheorghe, but for me "comfortable" is a major factor in poker.
That is why BRM is so important.
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Originally posted by ChillingRabbit275
Why you play over 400.000 handds on NL2?Y'know -- I used to play FL $0.10/$0.20 5-Card Draw all the time.
I did quite well, and just got into a rut of playing what was comfortable.So I move up stakes and got thrashed, but when I recovered I did well again at the new limit.
I don't know about AgapieGheorghe, but for me "comfortable" is a major factor in poker.
That is why BRM is so important.
I agree comfortable is very important in poker, and also BRM. But if you dont try move up you cant move up
Originally posted by ChillingRabbit275
Why you play over 400.000 handds on NL2?
You guys don't read the blog do you ? ![]()
Because i always start to play for a few weeks or months then i cash out and don't play again for months or even a year.
When i start again i deposit 20$ or 50$ and i start again from NL2.
I played this 400.000 hands over 7 years.
Originally posted by AgapieGheorghe
Originally posted by ChillingRabbit275
Why you play over 400.000 handds on NL2?You guys don't read the blog do you ?
Because i always start to play for a few weeks or months then i cash out and don't play again for months or even a year.
When i start again i deposit 20$ or 50$ and i start again from NL2.I played this 400.000 hands over 7 years.
I read first post only, do you think play on higher limits?
I'm leaving to Spain this week-end and i will live there for the rest of the year i think.
From Spain you can't play poker on the .COM platforms so if i will start to play there i will have to play on the .ES.
I will post in the next week if i will start to play there.
That's quite the adventure. The sun there is lovely, but is there no lockdown there at the moment? Are you going there because of a study or relationship?
You will find a way to play poker there too
Originally posted by deuverman
That's quite the adventure. The sun there is lovely, but is there no lockdown there at the moment? Are you going there because of a study or relationship?You will find a way to play poker there too
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I think every country now has a lockdown or something like that, I'm going to work there but for sure i will enjoy the nice weather![]()
Hello guys
I'm already in Spain and today was the first day back to work. You guys probably know it but i have to say : I hate working ! ![]()
I have to get up early ( atleast early for me ) at 6:30 am. In my 3 months of vacation i never got up from bed before 9 ![]()
I get tired really fast ( must be all that weight that i got over this 3 months ).
As i said before, from Spain you can only play on the spanish platforms and it seems that all of them need to verify my identity. I have to do this every year ( it sucks ).
So for now i can't play on Pokerstars, 888 or CasinoBarcelona the only place where i can play is Winamax and Sportium.
I hate Winamax and i don't want to deposit there mostly because i hate their 5 max tables and i think this poker room has the most regs on it.
On sportium i have 5€ so... i think i will play with those 5€ until Pokerstars or 888 will verify my identity.
Anyway i will need a few weeks to adjust my schedule again and i'm not gonna play that much in the next 2 weeks.
I'm gonna focus on the study, I want this month to get to 40 hours of study.
10 hours will be for a course called : Unchain a powerfull mind. This course gonna focus on this aspects :
✓ Controlling your Tilt
✓ Setting & Achieving goals
✓ Identify mental roadblocks
✓ Shift your perspective
✓ Discover your true motives
✓ Find happiness within yourself
✓ Implement Work-Life balance
30 hours left of study will be to learn and improve my game.
And i will finish this post with a graph. All the hands that i grinded on pokerstars.com on NL2 normal tables when i was on Romania.

How did the trip went, everything okay?
Very frustrating that you need to verify yourself
The best is indeed to invest your time in poker study!
Your graph looks so nice! GG
Hey Denny sorry for the late response. The trip was great nothing out of the ordinary.
" The best is indeed to invest your time in poker study! " - if you have the discipline for it sure .
A small update : My Pokerstars.Es account was verified so i can start to grind again.
I made a deposit of 100 Euros and i'm gonna play NL5 from now on. Also i found out that they offered me a nice mission :

That's like 40% Rakeback
so... Let the grind begin !
Originally posted by AgapieGheorghe
That's like 40% Rakebackso... Let the grind begin !
That isn't just "like" 40% it is exactly 40% -- nice!
I am currently working on one as well.
I started it Feb 16 and it expires on the 17th of March ☘️☘️☘️
About 80% done.
The trick though, is to make it through without losing more than the rakeback
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
The trick though, is to make it through without losing more than the rakeback
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Well my main goal is not to play more tables ( not that i can on Pokerstars, 4 max tables ) or to play on auto pilot for this mission. But i'm sure that i will get it in time if i just play my B game and focus on my goals.
I say B game because i don't think my game deserves an A. I still have to improve a lot.
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
That isn't just "like" 40% it is exactly 40% -- nice!
I am currently working on one as well.
I started it Feb 16 and it expires on the 17th of March ☘️☘️☘️
About 80% done.Nice ! And i'm sure you get more than 20$ from your challenge.
I have a friend who plays nl50 and managed to do a challenge where he got 1200$![]()
Good luck to you all !
I "only" get $40 -- I can either play extreme volume at lower stakes, or venture over to the dark side and play higher.
I've done that a few times, and likely will again.
When I do, I spend a large amount of my time observing -- and playing a very straight-forward style, and keeping the hand count low.
Remember too that I play a lot of games that are fairly straight-forward anyway, like Razz and 5-Card Draw.
Good that you are back on the tables. I might look in too challenges myself.. never did that. Maybe missing out of some goods!
How are the players on .es?
Originally posted by deuverman
How are the players on .es?
Some people say that the pool on ES is softer. They have no ideea what they are talking about. There are like 10 schools focused just for microstakes on the spanish community and many more coaches for 1 on 1.
Almost everyone who gives a damn for poker and google " Poker" in the spanish comunity get's free ranges and an ABC postflop gameplan for free.
So most of the players here have a decent stats preflop. Ofc like any platfrom you can find some bad regs or recreational players. but i think the ratio fish/reg is smaller here.

First line :
Notes - Automated notes taken by PT4 for preflop and postflop plays
Player name - Important to know whether you have the right stats on the right place.
Hands - Important for knowing how accurate the stats are
Voluntarily Put In Pot (VPIP) - This is the average total % of times your opponent puts money into the pot voluntarily. That could mean raising preflop, cold calling, completing the big blind...
<22% : Tight Player, mostly plays premium starting hands
22 – 28% : TAG player, plays mostly good hands mixed with some weaker ones
>28% : Loose player, plays a very wide range that will include a lot of trash
Pre-Flop Raise (PFR) - This is the Pre-Flop Raise stat and it’s pretty self explanatory. It’s how often your opponent raises before the flop.
<18% : Tight Player, mostly raises premium starting hands
18 – 24% : TAG player, raises mostly strong hands mixed with some weaker ones
>24% : LAG player, raises a wide range
Second line :
3-Bet – How often they re-raise before the flop
<3%: Tight Player, will only 3-bet with premium hands
3 – 6%: Will 3-bet mostly premiums and maybe some bluffs
>6%: Will 3-bet a wide range of premiums and bluffs
Fold to 3-Bet – Important when deciding whether or not to 3-bet
>80%: Tight Player, you can 3-bet almost any two cards profitably
60 – 80%: Will defend sometimes but often fold, you can 3-bet light sometimes
<60%: Will defend a lot against 3-bets, don’t 3-bet light and 3-bet larger for value instead
4-Bet – How often they 4-bet after getting 3-bet before the flop
<3%: Tight Player, will only 4-bet with premium hands
3 – 6%: Will 4-bet mostly premiums and maybe light sometimes
>6%: Will 4-bet light sometimes after getting 3-bet
Fold to 4B – Important when deciding whether or not to 4-bet
>80%: Tight Player, you can 4-bet light a lot after getting 3-bet in a blind vs. blind spot
60 – 80%: Will defend sometimes but often fold, you can 4-bet light sometimes
<60%: Will defend a lot against 4-bets, don’t 4-bet light and 4-bet wider for value instead
Preflop Squeeze - Squeezing means to re-raise preflop after there has been a raise and one or more callers.
Fold vs Preflop Squeeze - This is the % of time he folds Vs Squeeze ( when he open raise or when he calls an open raise)
Notes : If our opponent has a “Squeeze bet” percentage of 10% or more, it is very likely that they are using a wider range of hands. We can combat this strategy by folding less, and 4-betting a range of hands as bluffs. If our opponent has a “Squeeze bet” percentage of 5% or less, it is much more likely that they are making a squeeze play primarily for value. We can combat this strategy by folding more, and 4-betting mainly for value.
Went to Showdown % (WtSD) - How often a player gets to showdown when he sees a flop. The higher this number is the more likely the player is to be a calling station and the lighter you can value bet. The lower the number the more you can bluff and the less inclined you should be to value bet. This should be looked at with W$SD.<22% - this player is fairly nitty and doesn't get to showdown often, most likely has a high W$SD
22% – 27% - indicates a reasonably tight range and is the most common, should be looked at in terms of W$SD.
27% - 33% - fairly loose range for getting to showdown, a low W$SD would indicate a calling station while a high W$SD would usually indicate a competent LAG.
>33% - this player is almost definitely going too far with his hands. Value bet relentlessly.
Won $ at Showdown % (W$SD) - Represents how often a player wins $ at showdown. This can give a approximate measure of a player's post-flop skill, the higher the number the more likely an opponent is to have the winning hand at showdown.
This really needs to be looked at in context with a player's WtSD and they're overall style of play. A maniac is likely to have a low W$SD while a smart, aggressive player's will be higher. A good LAG will have a high W$SD where a bad LAG wouldn't. This will also separate the nits from the TAGs. You can bluff frequently and use smaller bet sizes against players with high W$SD as they're likely to be weak tight. On the other hand a player with a low W$SD is likely calling too much so we can value bet lighter and bet bigger against them.>55% - this player probably isn't going to showdown too often and can be bluffed more frequently.
48% - 55% - fairly common for TAGs/LAGs, look at in terms of WtSD.
<48% - usually has the worst hand at showdown, value bet relentlessly and don't bluff them.
Won when saw flop (WWSF) - Is how often a player wins the pot when he sees a flop; this gives a good indication of how aggressive a player is post-flop.
>46% – this player is likely to be extremely aggressive post-flop and is probably firing multiple barrels. It's also likely this player goes too far with marginal holdings, usually indicates a maniac.
40% – 45% – this player is playing aggressively, most commonly a good TAG/LAG
35% - 40% - this player is slightly passive post-flop, he gives up easily and may be playing too many hands pre-flop. Usually indicates a weak-tight post-flop player.
<35% - this player is giving up far too easily and may be playing too many hands pre-flop. Usually means that the player is nitty.
Third line :
C-Bet Flop – How often opponent C-bets the Flop
<30%: Tight Player, only C-bets when he hits something
30 – 60%: Will sometimes bet when he misses
>60%: Will bet frequently, whether he hits or not
Fold to Flop CB – Important when deciding whether or not to C-bet
>80%: Tight Player, you can C-bet almost every flop profitably
60 – 80%: Will defend sometimes but often fold, you can C-bet every good flop
<60%: Will float or raise your C-bets a lot, tighten up and only bet when you hit something
C-Bet Turn – How often opponent C-bets the Turn
<30%: Tight Player, only continues on the turn with strong hands
30 – 60%: Will sometimes keep bluffing after C-betting the flop with air
>60%: Will continue on the turn a lot, whether he’s strong or weak
Fold to Turn CB – Important when deciding whether or not to C-bet the turn
>80%: Tight Player, you can C-bet almost every turn profitably
60 – 80%: Will defend sometimes but often fold, you can C-bet every good turn
<60%: Will float or raise your C-bets a lot, tighten up and only bet when you have something
C-Bet River - Bet the river after being the Pre Flop Raiser Preflop and C-betting the flop and Double Barrelling(c-betting) the river
The c-bet-river value on its own therefore has no real significance, it must be combined with the amount of hands villain plays in general, and how often he bets through on the flop and on the turn.
Fold to river cbet - for this stats and for Cbet river you need 800 hands +
Line 4 :
BB fold to Steal - Important to decide whether to steal or not
Sb fold to Steal - Important to decide whether to steal or not>80%: Tight Player, you can steal with almost any two cards profitably
60 – 80%: Will defend sometimes but often fold, you can steal with weak hands sometimes
<60%: Will defend a lot against steals, tighten up and raise a stronger range
Float flop - Known also as "Bet vs miss" . It's the % of time when a player Bet the flop when the player OOP is checking the flop.
Fold to F Float Bet - It's the % of time when a player is gonna check/fold on the flop.
Float Turn - It's the % of time a player bet turn when the player OOP check the Turn.
Fold to T Float Bet - The % of time a player is check/folding the Turn.
WSDWBR - It's the % of time when he bet river and win at showdown.
Line 5 :
3Bet vs Steal from BB - How much a player is gonna 3bet from BB vs OR from Steal position (CO-BTN-SB)
3Bet vs Steal from SB - How much a player is gonna 3bet from SB vs OR from Steal position (CO-BTN)
Raise first in by position - Ep, Mp, Co, Btn, Sb.
You can add or remove some stats from the Hud.
I usualy use another line where i have : Flop Raise Cbet, Fold to Raise Cbet, Donk, Probe Turn and Fold to Probe Turn.
I know some people say that is enough to use a small Hud for micros but if you have such a powerful tool like a tracker why don't you use the full power of it.
First, hats off to the comprehensive and very clear explanations! I, and I think many others will benefit enormously from this when using a HUD. ![]()
I will be expanding my HUD, not yet in the completeness that you use. I agree with you when using a powerful tool like PT4 you have to take it to the extreme. However, I don't think you are learning on the micros for it.
By this, I mean that for example I myself can first apply the fundamentals properly and then add HUDS stats and can apply them. Otherwise, you can't see the forest for the trees, too much information if your game is not solid yet. :f_rolleyes::f_rolleyes:
On the other hand, thank you so much for the post. I will cherish it and go through your blog post every time I add stats.
Cheers