Omaha clicking, Project 2026

From today session lets post biggest losing and biggest winning hands. Both were versus same villain in same table btw.

Losing one in HU:

Game #1540494755: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:02:26 2021/08/19
Seated players
Seat 1: Tintat (€25) (sitting out)
Seat 4: Woottoa (€114.03)
Seat 5: Rusoposki (€24.64) (sitting out)
Seat 6: godjul3 (€43.49)
Blinds and button
Woottoa has the button
Woottoa posts small blind €0.10
godjul3 posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Woottoa 5♠:J♠:3♣:T♣:
Preflop
Woottoa raises €0.65 to €0.75
godjul3 raises €2 to €2.25
Woottoa calls €1.50
Flop 4♠:4♥:6♠:
godjul3 bets €2.25
Woottoa calls €2.25
Turn 6♣:
godjul3 checks
Woottoa bets €6.75
godjul3 calls €6.75
River 5♦:
godjul3 checks
Woottoa bets €22.50
godjul3 calls €22.50
Showdown
Woottoa shows [5s Js 3c Tc], Two pairs, Sixes up
godjul3 shows [Td 4c Ac Jd], Three of a kind, Fours

So hand is obviously not that great but does fall in top 40% according to oracle. So in HU mandatory open and call to 3bet I suppose. Flop not sure if its better to raise or call. I thought having just J high fd its better to just call. On turn villain check and most of time he only has overcards or overpair so having no showdown value currently I thought its nice spot to take stab and went for 75% which I would have made with most 4x+. I doubt we face x-r almost ever.

On river my hand seemed reasonable bluff and with dynamic we had I would have bet pot with A4+ probably. For river bluff its good we dont block A♠: imo.

Actually this was biggest pot BB wise I think but it was on PLO25.

Game #1540499176: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:08:13 2021/08/19
Seated players
Seat 1: Tintat (€25)
Seat 2: kloceps (€25) (sitting out)
Seat 3: migeluu (€24.65)
Seat 4: Woottoa (€87.60)
Seat 5: Rusoposki (€27.91)
Seat 6: godjul3 (€69.94)
Blinds and button
migeluu has the button
Woottoa posts small blind €0.10
Rusoposki posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Woottoa A♠:J♠:A♦:T♦:
Preflop
godjul3 raises €0.85 to €0.85
Tintat folds
migeluu folds
Woottoa raises €2.70 to €2.80
Rusoposki calls €2.55
godjul3 calls €1.95
Flop A♥:4♥:4♦:
Woottoa bets €2.50
Rusoposki folds
godjul3 calls €2.50
Turn K♦:
Woottoa bets €10.05
godjul3 calls €10.05
River Q♣:
Woottoa bets €33.50
godjul3 calls €33.50
Showdown
Woottoa shows [As Td Js Ad], Full House, Aces full
godjul3 shows [8c 2s 4s Ac], Full House, Fours full
Woottoa wins €98

Not really much to say about this one. Though I did make mistake on turn in bet size imo. When we barrel this turn at least big we kind of say we have KK+. So I should have just used pot size and not make it like 75%. On river I potted but I doubt it matters too much on villain calling frequency whatever I pot or 75% so most likely I end up losing 9€ value. 3 more on turn would have made it possible to bet 6 more on river. 9€ is almost 40bb...

Flop I think is fine to bet small theory wise as it makes stabs with air pretty cheap. But then just pot, pot and no silly sizes imo ♦

Originally posted by ghaleon
Will ask from Unibet support for data on last few month omaha games what sort of BB/100 there has been and how much hands. Might be reasonable to try and play up to 6 tables but I really want to keep focus on quality decisions over volume.

Having sauna day and not working today but got data from Unibet support. So below is hands played, profit and BB/100 on last 3 months of omaha. Mostly before start of BR challenge that has lasted two days now. Would not mind if same run continue. Though with this empiric data it would mean that PLO100 = 40bb/100?!

Oh man what session today. In short I ended up to play measly 10 hour session. I tend to have mental issue that if I run bad I end up playing longer session which is obviously not so great. Though I was aware of this during session but at the same time I just couldn't stop with how bad opponents there was in couple tables.

Anyway in short 2-3 first hours nothing went my way. Nasty board runouts and allins with 60-80% equity just didn't hold. I think I were down close to 400€ at some point which with two plo25 and two plo50 tables would be around 10 bins. Game still felt ok and in the end got back to around breakeven. Have to check some hands tomorrow and probably ask on hand analyze area about them.

Time to sleep now

Oh how I hate that!
I know that when a bunch of bad players are at the table, if I play a solid game, I'll get my $ back, so like you, I also extend sessions if I am set a bit.

The problem is that too often the terrible rivers come one after another and instead of being set a bit, I'm down 3 BI.

well nice that you could turn it around. usually its pretty tough if you run that bad. Even if the guys are super bad it gets harder and harder to play a solid game. That kind of normal that if gets worse and worse that people quit their sessions before it ends in a disaster. I tend to train that to just play a little bit longer session per session. I take notes like TMGP suggests and try again. You can also use fixed hours to get the volume in but I think the charm of poker is that you can be a bit flexible in playing times especially if you play cash.

Will work two session tomorrow as well and let's see where it ends week 1 result. Has been rough few last sessions. Was up to 800€ profit but now it's bit below 300€ at this point.

But yeah today lost several big pots with high equity after turn all-in. Biggest was this one:

MP open raise, I call, BU 3bet and we both call. Flop BU cbet and both call. Turn MP donk shove for some reason, I iso shove and BU tank called. Checked with oracle that I had 83.3% equity on turn. Have to say that one hurt. Didn't love the spot as BU obviously can have AAxx but he had been pretty active in 3betting.

But in that everyone had pretty decent hands. I also lost couple big pots versus VPIP infinity guys. Like today same guy cold calls 3bet with crappy single pair hand twice, faces 4 bet and 5bet behind, calls and wins both times. Those type get under my skin perhaps the most. Obviously it's good for EV that those guys exist but man you sometimes wonder how hot can they run.

Well there was one guy also going all-in pre with 9432sss and wins

Ok I went to do some exercise which I should do more anyway and was bit tired to play day session. So ended up with just evening one. Unfortunately run was rough in lot of spots with boards not running in my favor most of time. Some 70€ down in the end. Bankroll stands now on 2211,76€ so some profit from first week but overall couple last days have been nastier side of variance. Sure some bad play in some pots also.

Today some of the bigger pots were:

Aggro BB 3bet, I 4bet getting less than SPR 2 on flop. High, low, low flop with nfd blocker and mid pair I cant fold. Weird donk bet by villain as 4bettor is obviously potting lot on this flop. Unfortunately he gets his miracle flop. I suppose his 3bet is fine though I think calling 4bet is somewhat questionable as hand has 7 as dangler heavily decreasing flop smoothness. Unfortunate spot as on this Qxx flop I have no way to not stack off imo.

Game #1544767211: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:48:56 2021/08/27
Seated players
Seat 1: Jalubasa (€91.54)
Seat 3: Candyyyyy (€64.64)
Seat 4: Dundeeeee (€75.48)
Seat 6: Tjonko (€90.11)
Blinds and button
Jalubasa has the button
Candyyyyy posts small blind €0.25
Dundeeeee posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Jalubasa A♠:A♥:9♠:3♣:
Preflop
Tjonko folds
Jalubasa raises €1.75 to €1.75
Candyyyyy folds
Dundeeeee raises €5 to €5.50
Jalubasa raises €15 to €16.75
Dundeeeee calls €11.25
Flop Q♥:3♥:2♦:
Dundeeeee bets €8.43
Jalubasa raises €59.04 to €59.04
Dundeeeee calls €50.30, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Jalubasa: €0.31
Showdown
Turn 3♠:
River 8♣:
Jalubasa shows [As Ah 9s 3c], Three of a kind, Threes
Dundeeeee shows [Qd 7s Kd Qs], Full House
Dundeeeee wins €148.21

I thought to make some sort of compilation video from first week bigger pots. Of course big pots itself are not always interesting so I try to pick those that has something to think about. Didnt actually plan to play today but in late evening after 10 pm thought to check how games are running. Played for moment four tables of PLO25 with pretty nice 3 bin profit.

This was one of the bigger pots. Good example of how SPR affect stack off requirements.

Game #1545448901: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 19:49:34 2021/08/28
Seated players
Seat 1: MissLay (€20.91)
Seat 2: s3x_m2chine (€8.86)
Seat 3: Mipusa (€25.39)
Seat 4: kaviSakai (€7.85)
Seat 5: euwe (€25)
Seat 6: KrustyTClown (€39.91)
Blinds and button
Mipusa has the button
kaviSakai posts small blind €0.10
euwe posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Mipusa 4♦:A♠:T♠:J♦:
Preflop
KrustyTClown folds
MissLay calls €0.25
s3x_m2chine folds
Mipusa raises €1.10 to €1.10
kaviSakai folds
euwe folds
MissLay calls €0.85
Flop T♦:3♥:4♠:
MissLay checks
Mipusa bets €1.91
MissLay raises €8.28 to €8.28
Mipusa raises €22.38 to €24.29, and is all-in
MissLay calls €11.53, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Mipusa: €4.48
Showdown
Turn K♠:
River Q♥:
MissLay shows [6s Ad Ah Kc], A Pair of Aces
Mipusa shows [4d As Ts Jd], A Straight
Mipusa wins €40.90

If villain just open raised I would have called in position though hand being ds its close to 3bet also but not sure with 4 dangler. Anyway villain limped and called my iso raise. Then gets it in with his rainbow AAK6. So that was obviously pretty bad line and literally worst type. If villain had limp-3bet then SPR would be around 2 and potting and stacking off would be good. Now its 8 and when I give action to pot x-r on flop villain will have hard time to be in good shape versus any part of my range. Well sure I dont like to fold with some of the top pair combos but stacking off with those without like ton of backdoors would be really bad idea.

Biggest losing one was this. Bread and butter spots of omaha but seeing that river is not so nice anyway. Called preflop, x-r pot on flop, pot turn and yeah x-f river. Villain had not been bluffing type anyway and after calling flop and turn its very difficult for him to have bluff here imo.

Just got possibly biggest pot (bb wise as well) I have ever had on PLO50. So table had been very loose and quite maniac type plays. Often kind of hard tables to navigate and variance is through the roof but also offer good edges to be gained. So in this one MP was new player and other three opponents prety loose so far. Crazy action pre and on flop pot is made into almost 100bb already.

I flop very good with second pair, wrap with two high cards and bd fd. I thought that I cannot really fold whatever happens on flop and I do block 88 and 98 so perhaps donk pot would make sense. Two opponents fold but SB who I were deepest against shoves. Not what I wanted to see but obviously I call. He has top set with bd fd but luckily was not blocking my outs.

Game #1546476027: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:00:37 2021/08/30
Seated players
Seat 1: FAKE7chinese (€41.66)
Seat 2: Chippingyou (€94.34)
Seat 4: Rapsson (€311.24)
Seat 5: Sindrej9393 (€132.70)
Seat 6: Pullervo2 (€229.87)
Blinds and button
Rapsson has the button
Sindrej9393 posts small blind €0.25
Pullervo2 posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Pullervo2 J♦:T♣:8♠:7♣:
Preflop
FAKE7chinese calls €0.50
Chippingyou raises €2.25 to €2.25
Rapsson folds
Sindrej9393 calls €2
Pullervo2 calls €1.75
FAKE7chinese raises €10.75 to €11.25
Chippingyou calls €9
Sindrej9393 calls €9
Pullervo2 calls €9
Flop 8♣:9♦:4♠:
Sindrej9393 checks
Pullervo2 bets €45
FAKE7chinese folds
Chippingyou folds
Sindrej9393 raises €121.45 to €121.45, and is all-in
Pullervo2 calls €76.45
Showdown
Turn A♦:
River Q♠:
Sindrej9393 shows [As 9h 3h 9s], Three of a kind, Nines
Pullervo2 shows [Jd 8s 7c Tc], A Straight
Pullervo2 wins €284.90

Afterwards I thought that maybe I were even ahead and checked and kind of funnily it was literal flip!

Are you getting any rakeback at Unibet?

Also, do you know any coach with HU PLO knowledge?

Yeah there is rakeback in form of shop points and loyalty reward steps. I have no idea really about rakeback percent. It's probably around 10-20% I would guess. If one can rake lot more than I currently do it will get lot better at least in old system where it got to 50-60%.

Unibet recently changed their reward system though so not sure. There might be info on Unibet community forums.

Rake itself is halved if playing two or three handed which is pretty great. Obviously though playing HU versus opponent you don't have clear edge against it's probably not worth it and better to find new table.

Played and recorded session today. Have to check if audio was good and so on but if it's fine will post it to YouTube. Very happy on my play in last sessions from decision side. Results have been good as well.

I might be folding even too much to 3bets in some spots preflop. It's fine though as getting into awkward and very marginal spots with hands that are in risk of being dominated and/or have rough flop playability is nasty. So I have thought that making perhaps smallish mistake is not such big disaster if it allows chance to evade bigger postflop ones.

Had nice two sessions today bringing challenge bankroll to new record into 2.9k€

Hand I remember best was on plo25 when I open raise KJJx on BU and BB called.

Flop AJJr

-"Oh wow hit quads!"
-"Rainbow though, getting value is miracle..."
- Hero bets 1/3 pot, BB calls
-"Ok he probably has top pair or KQT"

Turn 8

- Hero bets half pot, BB raises pot
-"KA-CHING, so he has slowplayed AA or bluff pretty much..."
- Hero call

River T

-BB bet 2/3 pot, hero shoves, BB call and has AAxxss
- "Well this time there was some value"

Can't remember my hand exactly but would have probably called pre versus 3bet. It was actually pretty weird session as there was one other guy also just calling from BB with double suited AAxx. Supreme passiveness.

Related to rakeback I found this graph:

I will probably reach to around that 6 and 6-1 area so perhaps 15-20% rakeback in this quarter.

Tables were really nice today but unfortunately didnt go to my way. It was kind of weird as there was one guy spewing with gutshots etc. versus other players but when I hit he was folding almost always. Then I had mid set versus top set versus this guy for 300bb pot in 3bet 3way pot. Really nasty one. In PLO50 there was one fellow playing very passive but then suddenly he decided to squeeze versus MP open, CO call and my BU call with JJ83sss from BB. Flop came something like T75r and I had QT96ds with two bd fd. BB bet-call that crap 4way and I miss everything. Well I suppose if you 3bet that you are happy to get overpair and gutshot.

Well I actually checked spot and as he blocks one of my bd fd and some other outs I only had 44% though that was enough for SPR 2 spot. Still 3betting that pre was quite a play. Just 40€ down today though so not too bad,.

I asked unibet for hand for first two weeks. Lets see how it has gone bb/100 wise

Originally posted by Axif1
Are you getting any rakeback at Unibet?

Also, do you know any coach with HU PLO knowledge?

And yeah I don't know if there are really people focusing on HU in plo. Are there even tables specifically for HU?

HU itself is perhaps bit tricky especially versus aggro opponent. Ranges tend to be very wide preflop so it makes game less polarized than it usually is. Meaning there is probably point to go for bit more merged approach in postflop ranges. But of course principles are similar.

As side topic this just came out of oven. Have to let it cool down a bit supposedly...

Originally posted by ghaleon
As side topic this just came out of oven. Have to let it cool down a bit supposedly...

Avoiding burned lips is a major factor is enjoying baked goodness!