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New challange - #1 - Hands i marked while playing PLO5 rush

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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

As part of my new challange i will post here at least 2 hands from my session befor heading into the next one - so first question is this format ok to post here`? - second question - what can i do better in regards of posting?

#1 So here i know my hand isn't exactly premium, but blocking AA / KK, ds and decently connected this looked like a great spot to squeeze preflop against a bunch of loser opponents with a good chunk of potential deadmoney.
As played when SB donks potsize i put him pretty much on exactly what he had - JJ - holding a double gutter and 2nd nut flushdraw i was kind lost and decided to send it. him holding a fd aswell, blocking mine ofc turned this into an not exactly profitable move. Main question, is my hand good enough to go broke here when i am pretty sure villain holds JJ ?
Just by posting and with the fact that there is still 1 player behind i am quite sure this was risky, but is it really to risky?

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Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] 17ff57b5 (8 $)
[BB] Hero [HERO] (10.92 $)
[UTG] fab1ed46 (11.87 $)
[HJ] adaaf41f (5.14 $)
[CO] 131647c2 (4.79 $)
[BTN] ec356d25 (5.71 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
17ff57b5 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
Hero [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP A♠ K♥ 9♥ 7♠
fab1ed46 [UTG] : Folds
adaaf41f [HJ] : Raises 0.17$
131647c2 [CO] : Folds
ec356d25 [BTN] : Calls 0.17$
17ff57b5 [SB] : Calls 0.15$
Hero [BB] : Raises 0.80$
adaaf41f [HJ] : Folds
ec356d25 [BTN] : Calls 0.68$
17ff57b5 [SB] : Calls 0.68$
FLOP T♥ 5♥ J♦
17ff57b5 [SB] : Bets 2.72$
Hero [BB] : Raises all-in 10.07$
ec356d25 [BTN] : Folds
17ff57b5 [SB] : Calls all-in 4.43$
Hero [BB] : Uncalled bet 2.92$
SHOWDOWN
Hero [BB] : Shows A♠ K♥ 9♥ 7♠
17ff57b5 [SB] : Shows K♣ J♠ J♥ 6♥
TURN T♥ 5♥ J♦ 6♣
RIVER T♥ 5♥ J♦ 6♣ 6♠
17ff57b5 [SB] : Wins 16.80$
SUMMARY
SB : 17ff57b5 | 61%
BB : Hero [HERO] | 39%
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#2 well a flop that doesn't connect too well with my range - a turn that didn't bring to many news besides for A4/64xx and a river he decides to then suddenly bet, is my fold to nitty? Felt like i am beat here and he probably called the turn making a straight / or a top pair that riverd two pair.

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Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] 4c723e69 (10.33 $)
[BB] be42d565 (12.32 $)
[UTG] 1d09c041 (6.24 $)
[HJ] Hero [HERO] (14.37 $)
[CO] b259b029 (2.35 $)
[BTN] bcc0648d (5.76 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
4c723e69 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
be42d565 [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP A♥ A♦ 9♥ 5♠
1d09c041 [UTG] : Folds
Hero [HJ] : Raises 0.17$
b259b029 [CO] : Folds
bcc0648d [BTN] : Folds
4c723e69 [SB] : Folds
be42d565 [BB] : Calls 0.12$
FLOP 5♦ 2♥ 8♠
be42d565 [BB] : Checks
Hero [HJ] : Checks
TURN 5♦ 2♥ 8♠ 3♣
be42d565 [BB] : Bets 0.18$
Hero [HJ] : Calls 0.18$
RIVER 5♦ 2♥ 8♠ 3♣ T♥
be42d565 [BB] : Bets 0.36$
Hero [HJ] : Folds
be42d565 [BB] : Uncalled bet 0.36$
be42d565 [BB] : Wins 0.69$
SUMMARY
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#3 1 gap low ds rundown, should be ok open, on the flop against 2 opponents holding quite a disguised strong hand *edit 75% felt ok here*, turn i saw a chance of being behind and just wanted to keep the pot small, river???? was kinda close to folding but due to checking turn felt like i had to call here?

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Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] fab1ed46 (9.78 $)
[BB] b259b029 (2.62 $)
[UTG] 3d106e41 (8.97 $)
[HJ] Hero [HERO] (15.14 $)
[CO] bcc0648d (6 $)
[BTN] ec356d25 (5.08 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
fab1ed46 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
b259b029 [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP 6♥ 5♠ 4♥ 2♠
3d106e41 [UTG] : Folds
Hero [HJ] : Raises 0.17$
bcc0648d [CO] : Calls 0.17$
ec356d25 [BTN] : Folds
fab1ed46 [SB] : Calls 0.15$
b259b029 [BB] : Folds
FLOP 6♠ 5♦ 6♦
fab1ed46 [SB] : Checks
Hero [HJ] : Bets 0.41$
bcc0648d [CO] : Folds
fab1ed46 [SB] : Calls 0.41$
TURN 6♠ 5♦ 6♦ K♣
fab1ed46 [SB] : Checks
Hero [HJ] : Checks
RIVER 6♠ 5♦ 6♦ K♣ Q♠
fab1ed46 [SB] : Bets 1.38$
Hero [HJ] : Calls 1.38$
SHOWDOWN
fab1ed46 [SB] : Shows K♦ K♠ 8♦ 3♠
Hero [HJ] : Shows 6♥ 5♠ 4♥ 2♠
fab1ed46 [SB] : Wins 3.92$
SUMMARY
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#4 another AA i felt like i had to let go here? Cbet flop probably questinable, but figured it looks dry enough and also blocking at least some.... His range should be quite KQJT-ish heavy of which i block none so fold felt like only valid option?

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Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] bd28e8d2 (5 $)
[BB] 29b63cbe (5.29 $)
[UTG] 6a0ef0d7 (5.46 $)
[HJ] 7516daf7 (4.11 $)
[CO] 10569c1d (5.12 $)
[BTN] Hero [HERO] (5.16 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
bd28e8d2 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
29b63cbe [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP A♠ A♦ 9♠ 6♠
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Raises 0.17$
7516daf7 [HJ] : Folds
10569c1d [CO] : Folds
Hero [BTN] : Raises 0.58$
bd28e8d2 [SB] : Folds
29b63cbe [BB] : Folds
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Calls 0.41$
FLOP 8♠ 9♦ 3♣
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Checks
Hero [BTN] : Bets 0.90$
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Calls 0.90$
TURN 8♠ 9♦ 3♣ J♥
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Checks
Hero [BTN] : Checks
RIVER 8♠ 9♦ 3♣ J♥ 4♥
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Bets 1.52$
Hero [BTN] : Folds
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Uncalled bet 1.52$
6a0ef0d7 [UTG] : Wins 2.82$
SUMMARY
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#5 lose preflop play - but villain was very aggro with a nice 45% vpip / high pfr / high 3bet so i felt in position i still have to call his 4bet. IP i want to try to get HU here against such an opponent, even so my hand is only single suited. ds i would've felt better for sure, but its just one of those guys that keep on giving so for that setting is the hand good enough here?

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Xeester - Cash game GGPoker
Blindes : 0.02 $/0.05 $
[SB] 29f46028 (7.84 $)
[BB] 7a0f38f2 (1.40 $)
[UTG] f1814f89 (3.05 $)
[HJ] b610c32a (5.69 $)
[CO] e5057229 (6.70 $)
[BTN] Hero [HERO] (6.79 $)
BLINDS-ANTES
29f46028 [SB] : Posts small blind 0.02$
7a0f38f2 [BB] : Posts big blind 0.05$
PREFLOP J♠ T♣ T♥ 8♠
f1814f89 [UTG] : Folds
b610c32a [HJ] : Folds
e5057229 [CO] : Raises 0.15$
Hero [BTN] : Raises 0.52$
29f46028 [SB] : Folds
7a0f38f2 [BB] : Folds
e5057229 [CO] : Raises 1.48$
Hero [BTN] : Calls 1.11$
FLOP T♦ 2♠ 3♥
e5057229 [CO] : Bets 1.80$
Hero [BTN] : Raises all-in 5.16$
e5057229 [CO] : Calls all-in 3.27$
Hero [BTN] : Uncalled bet 0.09$
SHOWDOWN
Hero [BTN] : Shows J♠ T♣ T♥ 8♠
e5057229 [CO] : Shows J♦ T♠ 9♦ 7♠
TURN T♦ 2♠ 3♥ 7♣
RIVER T♦ 2♠ 3♥ 7♣ 8♦
e5057229 [CO] : Wins 13.25$
SUMMARY
CO : e5057229 | 11%
BTN : Hero [HERO] | 89%
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i marked more hands but don't even know if this format will function when posting and will leave it at this for now, hope there is something interesting in here for you guys to check :)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Post each hand on separate thread unless they are related to each other like giving read for other hand. Its just much more easier to talk of just one hand per thread. Otherwise hh are easy to read and going through your think process and reads is always good.


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

Originally posted by ghaleon
Post each hand on separate thread unless they are related to each other like giving read for other hand. Its just much more easier to talk of just one hand per thread. Otherwise hh are easy to read and going through your think process and reads is always good.

thanks - will do in the future!


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

1: Squeeze is fine though this is pretty much weakest of AKxxds I could personally go for it. 97 not being in connection with AK makes it bit borderline imo. Flop I kind of doubt we can define villain range that heavily. If we can then call would be better play as we can fold pairing turn cards. Anyway even versus JJxx we have 40% equity which is not quite enough but its not far away. Versus JT we would have around 50% so I would not fold.

2: I would bet flop having all cards somewhat connected on flop. As played if we call turn bet then I would not mind to call river as well. Our hand is rarely improving on river and T doesnt change board much.


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naDanje
Joined: 01.04.2007

1.) agreed
in regards of preflop, just saw some villains in there that definetly play too many hands and that made it feel like an ok spot.
and yes, not reasonably defining the range this accurate is what lead to my play, but i indeed was convinced he's holding jj here - my "spidersenses" just went off based on his timing aswell. but i also know i cannot trust this 100% so i could not find my way out. glad to hear my train of thought in that hand wasn't too crazy(preflop/flop).

2.) i think you are right and should've fired on that flop.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

3: This one was in different topic.

4: I would pot flop with SPR 4 or less. I think its around 4 in here. Though if villain call we would have to give up on this turn anyway. But idea in potting is to create max fe having some blocker value into flop but not that much playability. Personally I simplify my bet sizes into half or pot in this spot. If villain raise versus pot we are stacking off.

5: Just call in position. This type of hand is not good for 3betting. Even as ds I would just call. Especially versus crazy villain as we dont want to face 4bet. Thing is that with higher SPR we have more benefit from position.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

4: I would pot the flop too and get it in if raised. Turn is check-fold.
5: Hard to see 3betting that wide being profitable in the long run. First, in 3bet game money goes in often on the flop. We want to hit flops (multiple components in our hand) and we want to dominate. Domination is the key to make money in 3bet game. That means high cards, high draws. So when you and opponent have a flush draw, you are the one who has higher one more often. Same with 2 pairs etc. JTT8ss, hardly dominates anyone, unless you get that set which happens 1/8 times. 7/8 times you don't have a set, and you either have weak hand or you rely solely on FE on the flop. Second, when you 3bet you lower SPR which gives away positional advantage. You don't want to do that, unless you have such a strong hand that you want to make the pot big already in the preflop. JTT8 is not that. It's a call preflop even double suited.


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