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VorpalF2F
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The problem with muscles, is that after they're warmed up, they reach a peak possible effort rather quickly.
I used to climb mountains for a living (prospector) and pacing is vital. Start out at a reasonable pace, so that breathing and heart rate are just above normal, and continue at that pace. Do that, and going all day is quite possible. Try for a fast start, and an hour in you're hooped and need to rest.

Originally posted by Harrier88
Climbing stairs is no fun at the moment - neither is descending them, actually.

Going down is actually more tiring than going up. In addition to your own mass, you have the acceleration due to gravity to deal with.


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Saffo7
Joined: 31.10.2020

Originally posted by Harrier88

Originally posted by Saffo7
My nephew loves Super Mario Bross legos and honestly I don't mind building the course with him and accumulating points, he's cute. With lego you can do everything, build robots or a fantasy safari but even shin guards have their own reason🤭😁

I don't think I was aware of Super Mario Bros Lego sets before, but now that I have looked them up, it seems like a good match. There is a lot you can do with the theme, both for playing and for building.

And I see this one even features what is now the Troll's favorite Mario character as an antagonist. :f_biggrin:

Originally posted by Saffo7
Plush of pokerstars I love it, the emblem is cute but not suitable for me, if I dive I stay there, I can swim but not at the levels of doing a race with someone, let's say I stay afloat🤦‍♂️😅

I got the plushie back when it was available in the Pokerstars Rewards store. I gave another one to Prim as a birthday present two years ago, I was lucky to find an auction for it on eBay. She gave her plushie a little pearl necklace (originally a bracelet) and called her Megan after the character from the Sherman's Lagoon comic strips, which I was also not familiar with before. So I guess my shark is now Sherman. :f_grin:

Honestly, staying afloat is pretty much all you need to do to get the Bronze badge. :f_biggrin: In the swimming, part that is. I never did it as a kid despite being a decent swimmer because the diving in the deep part scared me, which is why I had to take my swimming classes at grade school in the shallow part.

Bronze is considered the minimum standard for swimming unsupervised, so it doesn't require a great swimming performance. Back in my mother's day, children would have the badges sewed on their bathing suits and swimming trunks so the teachers and lifeguards knew who was allowed to swim where and who had to be watched. I think some kids may still sew them on, but it's not necessary anymore, unless they want to show off. My own badges will stay in the drawer, along with the passport thing I got. :f_grin:

The blue male symbol, if quoto I do not see it but in the post there is...

Spoiler

Since I am not very good at English, I use the translator to understand if I have written correctly
It takes me some time to write, because first I read in English, then I write thinking I know the language, I realize I'm wrong, I check two or three translators to express myself better 🤭
I struggle but I must say that since I interact with you I have improved a lot
The symbol remains and I can't figure out why

The game is just that, recently I discovered the existence of another type but it does not have the electronic part

I'm bronze is already something...
I didn't do classes in the pool, my grandfather taught me in the sea in the summer
Congratulations for the constancy and commitment to sport:f_drink:


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
The problem with muscles, is that after they're warmed up, they reach a peak possible effort rather quickly.
I used to climb mountains for a living (prospector) and pacing is vital. Start out at a reasonable pace, so that breathing and heart rate are just above normal, and continue at that pace. Do that, and going all day is quite possible. Try for a fast start, and an hour in you're hooped and need to rest.

Many problems could have been averted already if I had stretched properly before doing those jumps - but I originally thought that I would only do a jump or two, now that I got my new measuring tape, just to see where I stand. And then I thought that I can make those extra few centimeters too to get the Gold distance, kept trying over and over... and later on, my thighs complained. :f_biggrin:

Climbing and descending stairs is working a bit better now already. My legs should at least be functional by tomorrow. :f_grin:


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by Saffo7

Since I am not very good at English, I use the translator to understand if I have written correctly
It takes me some time to write, because first I read in English, then I write thinking I know the language, I realize I'm wrong, I check two or three translators to express myself better 🤭
I struggle but I must say that since I interact with you I have improved a lot
The symbol remains and I can't figure out why

I'm guessing the version on top is how it is supposed to look like?

I notice that the facepalm emoji changed its shirt color from blue (usually meaning male) to orange (usually meaning "gender neutral") in the bottom one, so what I assume happened is that the code for the blue facepalm emoji contained something along the lines of male/man, which then for some reason got parsed improperly and got attached to the end as a symbol, while the facepalm emoji got changed to the neutral orange version because it was then missing the male signifier.

In this case, let's just facepalm in real life about it. :facepalm: At least that won't change our shirt color or make symbols appear.

This is how the post looked like to me, in any case:

So you're Italian, then? Nice country, I've been there once with my Latin class at school, visiting the ruins of Pompeii and Herculaneum, and the National Archaelogical Museum in Naples. We also went to Mount Vesuvius and even took a trip to Capri.


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

All right, Trolls and friends, Primrose is on vacation, as you know, but I got you covered when it comes to sports and cooking.

In fact, as of tomorrow, the Trollympics will be officially underway! :f_love:

I'm honestly not even sure what awaits me tomorrow... I have exchanged some emails with the local person in charge before and had one longer phone call with him - the way I understand it, I can keep showing up in the late afternoons on Monday this summer and then practice for the events there and eventually take shots for the examination. My idea is to practice some of the strength and coordination events and then slowly come up with a plan about which events I will choose to compete in.

This will be the venue for my Trollympics challenge... hey, look, you can even see some of the tennis courts where I practice on Wednesday evenings on the left:

I will be on my own when it comes to the exams for the aquatic events, I can take them whenever I want. If I understand correctly, I can also take them as often as I want, but I better ask again tomorrow to be sure, since it would naturally change my approach quite a bit if I need to get it right on my first official attempt.

And I suppose I have not yet explained how the scoring for the actual badge works in the end. Well, there are certain requirements you need to meet for Bronze, Silver and Gold in each event you compete in. You need at least Bronze in all four of them in order to qualify for the badge - if you fail one, it won't matter how well you did in the other three.

In the final evaluation, Bronze will be worth one point, Silver two points, and Gold three points. You will get Bronze in the total rating with 4 to 7 points, Silver with 8 to 10 points, and Gold with 11 to 12 points.

In other words, it is impossible to win the Gold overall if you get Bronze in one event, and you could only afford one Silver and will have to Gold the other ones. Similarly, if you want to go for the Silver, you will have to compensate each Bronze with at least one Gold. Four Silvers would be barely enough for Silver in the overall rating.

Based on my practice attempts so far, I seem to be on pace for Silver in three events already - so I would need Silver or better in the fourth one too if I want the Silver badge in the end. Well, first I need to qualify at all, I have no idea how well I would do in any of the coordination sports. And Gold overall would be really tough for me right now...

Ah, whatever, let's just see what tomorrow brings. :f_grin: This could be a fun trolling week, even while Primrose is enjoying her well-deserved vacation.


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Troll Trivia of the Week

How Harrier will do in the "Trollympics" this summer remains to be seen... but eleven years ago, he already placed first in one team event on his university's "Sport-Dies" (pronounced 'dee-ehs', it's Latin for "day"). Which one was it?
(I participated in all three)

1) Rowing
2) Beach volleyball
3) Team handball


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Saffo7
Joined: 31.10.2020

The video has an extreme vision of Italy...
Italy is beautiful, offers spectacular landscapes, maintains small villages very charming and depends on what you do and where you go, there are different realities I assume like many other countries

Originally posted by Harrier88
Troll Trivia of the Week

How Harrier will do in the "Trollympics" this summer remains to be seen... but eleven years ago, he already placed first in one team event on his university's "Sport-Dies" (pronounced 'dee-ehs', it's Latin for "day"). Which one was it?
(I participated in all three)

1) Rowing
2) Beach volleyball
3) Team handball

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I'm going with rowing...


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

First Gold for the Trolls!

Day one of the Trollympics, and we already have our first Gold to report! :f_drink:

Medicine Ball Throw (2kg)
Bronze: 8.25m
Silver: 9.75m
Gold: 11.25m

No comparable Olympic or World Records available.

Harrier's distance: 12.30m

It took two tries, I had to experiment with several throwing techniques. First I tried a standard push with both hands, and I think I made somewhere around 9 meters with it. Then I let the young guy who was the pool attendant last Sunday when I practiced for the swimming events try. He attempted using a different technique, which looked more like shot-putting, with more of a hip movement and only one arm throwing.

He made a little over 14 meters, qualifying for the Gold in his category. I tried again, using a similar technique as he, and got the 12.30 meters, good enough for Gold in my age group too. That's all we need! :f_grin: My distance is in the books now, so the Strength category can be wrapped up with Gold.

Only Stamina, Speed and Coordination remain, and I already announced that I intend to do the swimming events for Stamina and Speed. This leaves Coordination...

Sling Ball Throw (1 kg)
Bronze: 28.50m
Silver: 33.50m
Gold: 38.50m

Not an Olympic event.
World Record (2kg): 86.92m by Alwin Wagner (GER) on August 21st, 1982.

Harrier's distance: 30.30m

This one took several tries... We had no idea about technique and had to experiment a little as well. This is not just about strength, but also timing, which is why this is considered a Coordination event.

At one point, I even made negative meters, when I tried to throw the sling ball after two full 360° swings, sending the ball flying high in the air - backwards. :f_ugly: Also slightly to the left. I almost hit a picnic table with it. Other attempts were way too flat, others a little too high - but at least they went forwards.

When I finally did hit a decent angle on my last attempt, I got the 30.30 meters, which would be good enough for Bronze, at least. We noted down the distance, and if I won't improve in any of the other Coordination events, I can take it.

Remember the calculations in my opening post yesterday? I am currently on pace for Silver in the aquatic events, so if I can grab Silver in both, Gold in the medicine ball throw and Bronze in the sling ball throw would be good enough for Silver overall already - a more than satisfactory result. In fact, if I fail to make gold in at least one of the swimming events, there is no point in even aiming for anything better, as it would be impossible to reach Gold overall with two Silvers.

Still, we are not quite done here - let's at least try for the Gold, even if we won't make it. :f_grin: I will be back next Monday with some attempts at long jump, high jump, and possibly the 100 meter dash. Maybe some other stuff too. But for now, we can be satisfied with the results from the first day of the Trollympics, with one Gold locked up and a Bronze that we may improve on in the future.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

That´s awesome, Harrier. More good sporty news from the trolls here!


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by Primrose6789
That´s awesome, Harrier. More good sporty news from the trolls here!

It's great that the Trolls are staying active. :f_thumbsup:

Prim loves her "action" vacations, she couldn't just go somewhere where she would simply relax at the pool or on the beach all the time. Not that there's anything wrong with that, this can be very nice too - but it's not for the grindette. :f_grin:

Originally posted by Saffo7
The video has an extreme vision of Italy...
Italy is beautiful, offers spectacular landscapes, maintains small villages very charming and depends on what you do and where you go, there are different realities I assume like many other countries

The video is hyperbolic for sure, but it is making fun of both Germans and Italians in about equal measures. :f_grin:

Yes, I have been very impressed by the Italian landscape when I was traveling there. I have been wondering what the name of the town was where I was staying, but I just found an old newspaper article about my old school's Pompeii trip which mentions it, I was staying in Meta di Sorrento.

Even more so, I was impressed by the Swiss landscape on my way there. I had only seen the Alps in photos and videos before that, but seeing them up close for real was something else.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Indeed! Only relaxing at the beach or at the pool is definitely not for me, no matter if this is at home or on vacation, I personally prefer to stay active and do something. Whenever I go to the pool, I do a swim-workout. I very quickly feel bored when it comes to relaxing at the pool or beach. This could be maybe for people who can sun-tan (skin type III and higher?).


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Harrier88
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We had a good day at the Trollympics yesterday, with Gold locked up for Strength and an improvable Bronze that could be taken in a pinch for Coordination. So where exactly do we stand? Could I grab the Gold in my first year?

I have briefly discussed it before, but the most likely outcome right now would be Silver. In order to settle for Bronze (or even an outright fail), I would have to do significantly worse in the two aquatic events than I did during my practice attempts about a week ago, and I don't see that happening, because I don't think I was even at my best back then.

After Silver, which would just require a roughly similar performance as in my practice runs, the next likely outcome would indeed be Gold. For this one, I would have to improve to at least Silver in my Coordination event, whether it is the sling ball or something else, and also improve in the swimming events. Tough, but not impossible.

It mostly depends on the Coordination event. Gold would be huge, that way I would only need to shave a few seconds off my 25 meter freestyle time. One Silver would be fine, as long as I Gold the rest. I don't think I can get Gold with the sling ball, so the long jump would probably be my best bet next Monday.

If I were to get Silver in the Coordination sport, which may even be achievable with a better timed sling ball throw, I would have to Gold both the Stamina and the Speed event, which would be really hard to do, I believe, with only this summer remaining to train for it. Keep in mind, though, that I don't have to do two swimming events, that is just my current plan. Maybe I can get a good time in the 100 meter dash, for example, which would make things look differently already.

So odds are on Silver right now, which is almost in the bag already, but Gold may still be possible. I will have some time in the evening, so maybe I will do a swimming attempt already. I may even take a shot at the DLRG Gold badge, which is also still left to do.


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Harrier88
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No DLRG Gold badge today, I need a partner for the transport swimming part. Prim would be ready to do it during our next meetup, but maybe I can find some other volunteers in the meantime.

Until then, the Trollympics continue, where I can take the aquatic events at my own leisure, without being restricted to the Monday evening meetups.

25m Freestyle
Bronze: 35.0 seconds
Silver: 26.5 seconds
Gold: 18.5 seconds

Olympic Record (for 50m Freestyle): 21.07 seconds by Caeleb Dressel (USA) at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, August 1st, 2021.
World Record (for 50m Freestyle): 20.16 seconds by Caeleb Dressel (USA) at the International Swimming League in Budapest, November 21st, 2020.

Harrier's time: 21.45 seconds

Slightly worse than the 21.2 during my practice attempt, but this may as well have been a timekeeping error, looks like my performance was comparable.

I did two attempts, my second one was a little better, by a bit under a second, I believe. Odd, because that attempt felt slower to me. I tried to replicate the crouching starting jump done by professional swimmers on my first go, then went for a standard jump that felt more natural on the next one.

There is definitely room for improvement, I think I started exiting the diving part too early, already trying to crawl when I was still underwater, leading to too much water resistance. I also got noticeably fatigued on the final meters, since I had been swimming for a while by that point. So the time can definitely be improved on, but I have some serious doubts that I can crack the 18.50 seconds for Gold this summer...

For now, let's take the 21.45 seconds, worthy of Silver. I can try to improve on it at a later point, or go for another Speed-based event. Gold in the final rating just got a little more unlikely, though.


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Harrier88
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I guess my body could use a bit of a break now... but it won't get any. Tennis practice this evening, which is not a Trollympic event.

I hope you like following along, I haven't heard any feedback about this yet. I'm doing the Sports Badge for myself anyway, but I thought it would be good blogging material too, while I'm at it.

There should be more swimming tomorrow, but until then, let's present some Aqua Challenges for the grindette too. :f_grin:

Challenge #1: Gear Up!
Prim has lost enough contact lenses to treacherous waters - it's time to get some proper swimming goggles. They don't have to be optical goggles like mine, just something functional so she won't have to go underwater with the naked eye. Swimming will be a lot more enjoyable that way too. :f_grin:

Challenge #2: Catch that Squirrel!
Puppies love chasing cute little squirrels, don't they? Well, go for it, then. :f_grin: My second challenge for Primrose is to beat my time for the 25 meter freestyle event in the Trollympics. Right now, that would be 21.45 seconds, but it may be improved upon - my best result by the time we wrap up the Trollympics will count.

Challenge #3: Red October
It's tough to match Prim's speed and endurance on the surface, but can she rule underwater too? My third task for her is to dive down and swim through a full 25 meter lane entirely underwater. I managed to do it during our first trip to the pool together about a month ago - now it's the grindette's turn. :f_grin:

Challenge #4: You Go, Girl!
We don't know yet if Prim will go for the Sports Badge herself next year, but if she does, those puny ladies' times won't be much of a challenge for her in the swimming events. So let's spice it up a little: My fourth and final challenge for Primrose is to dominate the Sports Badge's Gold time set for men in their best age (20-24) in the 800 meter freestyle event, which would be 16:25 minutes. Some men like to be dominated, you know... :f_wink:

Those are my Aqua Challenges for Primrose, to be done at her first convenience. I heard some swimming goggles were on her shopping list during her vacation anyway, the rest is probably best done at home - after healing up a little, of course.


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Primrose6789
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That sounds cool!

Challenge 1 should be done during this vacation - I will go to the shop for that one.
For the other three I may need BOTH legs, let´s see, when my leg will be healthy enough to do that. :f_thumbsup:


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Harrier88
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More sports adventures today. First some water gymnastics, then another shot at a Trollympic event:

800m Freestyle
Bronze: 28:50 minutes
Silver: 24:00 minutes
Gold: 19:15 minutes

Olympic Record (Long Course): 7:41.28 by Mykhailo Romanchuk (UKR) at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, July 27th, 2021.
World Record (Long Course): 7:32.12 by Zhang Lin (CHN) at the World Championships in Rome, July 29th, 2009.
World Record (Short Course): 7:23.42 by Grant Hackett (AUS) at the Victoria Championships in Melbourne, July 20th, 2008.

Harrier's time: 20:30 minutes

Another good Silver time... almost 1:30 minutes faster than my practice attempt, and that is just about the amount of time I need to shake off in order to qualify for the Gold. It should be within reach...

Anyway, with this result, Silver in the Trollympics is already secured! :f_thumbsup: My current results are:

Stamina: Silver (800m Freestyle) - 2 points
Strength: Gold (Medicine Ball Throw) - 3 points
Speed: Silver (25m Freestyle) - 2 points
Coordination: Bronze (Sling Ball Throw) - 1 point

That makes 8 points in total, barely good enough for Silver overall (8-10 points).

Is Gold still realistically possible? We will see on Monday. There is no way around improving in the Coordination event if I want the Gold. Silver in there should be possible with the sling ball already, Gold would probably require another event, which is also a possibility. Get the Gold in there, and I only need to improve in the Speed or Stamina event to get the Gold overall - and I'm close in the 800m Freestyle, as you can see. Get Silver, and I would need to improve both Speed and Stamina... which is a whole lot tougher.

Again, we will see on Monday. But either way - we have the Silver! :f_drink: The only way to lose it would be if I lost the documents with my swimming times... :f_ugly:

Also, I heard that Primrose got her swimming goggles today, maybe we will see pictures soon. :f_grin: We should have some pictures of my cooking tomorrow too - the Recipe Raiders were at it again. :f_wink:


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Harrier88
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Awwwwww, check out what else arrived in the mail today. :f_love:

Do you know who this is? :f_grin:

This is Misha, the official mascot of the Olympic Summer Games 1980 in Moscow. In my opinion one of the most adorable Olympic mascots ever.

I'm glad he made it through customs. :f_grin: (he was shipped from America, not Russia - that would have made things a lot more complicated...)

He (or she - I'm not even sure if it's a guy or a girl) can award me my Sports Badge when we are done with the Trollympics. The badge itself is in the bag now, the only remaining question is what color it will be.

But guess what - I will finally have a day without any sports now, giving my body some time to recuperate. :f_grin:

New recipe should be coming up soon...


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Primrose6789
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Aaaaaaaaaw, that is a cute one! :f_love::f_love::f_love::f_love:


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Harrier88
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It has been a while... let's get raiding:

The best part about going to IKEA has always been to grab some köttbullar after your long shopping trip, right? No? Okay, maybe that's just me.

Thing is, my apartment is currently well-furnished as far as I'm concerned, so I don't plan to do any trips to IKEA soon. I do intend to do some redecorating at home soon, though, so maybe something will come up.

But why wait until we have to buy a new shelf? Let's make some köttbullar ourselves at home. :f_grin: I made those yesterday.

Today's Dish: Köttbullar
Cuisine: Swedish
Recipe: https://www.carolinescooking.com/swedish-meatballs-kottbullar/

We start with about 15-20 grams of breadcrumbs (I used panko) and 60 ml of cream, letting the crumbs soak in it.

Meanwhile, we fry some chopped onions. The original recipe called for about 8 tablespoons, I believe, I just cut up a small onion. We are only supposed to soften the onions a little, though, they are not supposed to brown. We will set them aside when they are done.

We now get about 450 grams of mixed ground meat (beef and pork), and combine it with the soaked breadcrumbs, the onions, an egg, a teaspoon of salt, half a teaspoon of pepper, and about a quarter teaspoon of allspice.

The recipe recommends getting spoonfuls of the meat mixture ready, and then rolling the meatballs all at once when you're done, keeping a small bowl of water ready to wash your hands a little in order to keep the meatballs from sticking. Come on... were making meatballs here, not sushi! I just rolled them all up real quick, grabbing whatever amount felt right with my bare hands.

I think they turned out a little bigger than köttbullar are supposed to be. I guess I will just have to deal with the fact that I have the bigger balls in the end.

It's time to cook the meatballs in a pan, and the recipe recommends cooking them in batches to avoid overcrowding the pan. Whatever, I went for German efficiency once again - toss them all in, my pan is big enough.

One mistake I made, though, was that I didn't add any more grease to it. I was using the same pan I used to fry those onions before, which had some traces of butter left, and I hoped that with the additional fat from the meat, it would be enough. I was mistaken, and as a result, some of the meatballs were sticking a bit to the pan and fell apart when I tried to flip them.

Anyway, we will add a tablespoon of flour once the meatballs are done, and start preparing the sauce. I think the recipe wants us to remove the meatballs first, I didn't bother. Let's add about 240 ml of beef stock and mix in about half a tablespoon of soy sauce.

We can then add 60 ml cream too.

All right, not the best shape, but the köttbullar are ready. I served them with some mashed potatoes here - and almost got mashed meatballs too.

Ah well, some of them held together all right. Taste was good. Normally, they are served with lingonberries - also at IKEA - but it's not for me.

The sauce was pretty good, and honestly, that's what this was mostly about for me. Maybe I will make the sauce again for a "lazy squirrel" version with store-bought meatballs.

Pretty good overall, but if you are making those at home, you might want to follow the original recipe instead of my write-up here. :f_biggrin: But that's why I always include the link.


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