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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

The Daily Quads

and I even got a call on my attempt to induce a bluff

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 25/50 (5 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 3,172 (63 bb)
UTG+1: 3,140 (63 bb)
MP: 2,971 (59 bb)
MP+1: 2,941 (59 bb)
CO (Hero): 2,926 (59 bb)
BU: 2,931 (59 bb)
SB: 2,933 (59 bb)
BB: 2,986 (60 bb)

Pre-Flop: (115) Hero is CO with Q♣:J♥:
4 players fold, Hero raises to 125, 1 fold, SB calls 100, 1 fold

Flop: (340) Q♦:7♠:Q♥: (2 players)
SB bets 50, Hero calls 50

Turn: (440) Q♠: (2 players)
SB bets 200, Hero calls 200

River: (840) 3♦: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 277, SB calls 277

Total pot: 1,394

Showdown:
CO (Hero) shows Q♣:J♥: (four of a kind, Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 100%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

SB mucks 8♣:3♣: (a full house, Queens full of Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 0%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) wins 1,394


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Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
well, in all fairness, this blog started to document my trip through "The Mental Game of Poker". That book is the single biggest reason I had what small success I do have at the game.

Props for keeping it going for over 12 years and almost 200 pages now. :f_thumbsup:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Harrier88

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
well, in all fairness, this blog started to document my trip through "The Mental Game of Poker". That book is the single biggest reason I had what small success I do have at the game.

Props for keeping it going for over 12 years and almost 200 pages now. :f_thumbsup:
Holy Crap!
I hadn't noticed that!


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AA Gets Paid Off

multi-way

Pacific Poker - 50/100 Ante 10 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 2,951
UTG+1: 1,610 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 2,990 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP+1: 9,355 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 3,486 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 2,906 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 58)
SB: 1,731 (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 1,971 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)

8 players post ante of 10, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 230) Hero has A♦:A♥:

Hero raises to 200, UTG+1 calls 200, MP raises to 300, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 250, BB calls 200, Hero raises to 1,300, UTG+1 calls 1,100, MP calls 1,000, SB calls 1,000, BB calls 1,000

Flop: (6,580, 5 players) K♣:T♣:3♠:
SB bets 421 and is all-in, BB calls 421, Hero raises to 1,641 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 300 and is all-in, MP calls 1,641, BB calls 240 and is all-in

Turn: (11,244, 5 players) 4♦:

River: (11,244, 5 players) 8♦:

Hero shows A♦:A♥: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [8,080]: (Pre 51%, Flop 44%, Turn 68%)
Side Pot#1 [484]: (Pre 64%, Flop 59%, Turn 82%)
Side Pot#2 [720]: (Pre 72%, Flop 68%, Turn 87%)
Side Pot#3 [1,960]: (Pre 91%, Flop 84%, Turn 95%)

UTG+1 shows 7♠:3♥: (One Pair, Threes)

Main Pot [8,080]: (Pre 14%, Flop 16%, Turn 13%)

MP shows A♣:T♠: (One Pair, Tens)

Main Pot [8,080]: (Pre 8%, Flop 15%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [484]: (Pre 8%, Flop 15%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#2 [720]: (Pre 8%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#3 [1,960]: (Pre 9%, Flop 16%, Turn 5%)

SB shows K♦:Q♦: (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [8,080]: (Pre 14%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [484]: (Pre 14%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%)

BB shows J♦:9♦: (High Card, King)

Main Pot [8,080]: (Pre 14%, Flop 14%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#1 [484]: (Pre 14%, Flop 14%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#2 [720]: (Pre 19%, Flop 16%, Turn 8%)

Hero wins 8,080
Hero wins 484
Hero wins 720
Hero wins 1,960


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VorpalF2F
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Desperation Equity Rides Again

3 outs OTR and I get one of 'em

I'm happy either way at this ping — I was 36 of 36 at this point, and made the next pay jump
Really nice to see 888 introduce $200 Freerolls every 3 hours throughout the day

Pacific Poker - 10000/20000 Ante 2000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 417,653
CO: 62,066 (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 18.97, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 61)
BTN: 71,390 (VPIP: 83.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 183,712 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 9.46, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 81)
Hero (BB): 10,184
UTG: 194,223 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
UTG+1: 98,888 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: 203,705 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

8 players post ante of 2,000, SB posts SB 10,000, Hero posts BB 8,184

Pre Flop: (pot: 34,184) Hero has A♣:8♦:

fold, fold, MP calls 20,000, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (44,184, 2 players) J♣:5♣:Q♠:

Turn: (44,184, 2 players) 4♦:

River: (44,184, 2 players) 8♣:

Hero shows A♣:8♦: (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 65%, Flop 19%, Turn 7%)
MP shows A♠:5♦: (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 35%, Flop 81%, Turn 93%)
MP wins 3,632
Hero wins 40,552


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Joined: 02.09.2010

First FT in a long while


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Sometimes I feel genuinely sorry for Opponents

and sometimes I smirk, and gather the chips
Pacific Poker - 200/400 Ante 40 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 3,427
BB: 2,852 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 37)
UTG: 7,229 (VPIP: 20.31, PFR: 17.27, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 131)
UTG+1: 5,538 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 3,127 (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
MP+1: 2,512 (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 80)
CO: 2,394 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
BTN: 2,870 (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)

8 players post ante of 40, Hero posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 920) Hero has 9♦:9♠:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3,387 and is all-in, BB calls 2,412 and is all-in

Flop: (5,944, 2 players) 2♦:7♠:5♥:

Turn: (5,944, 2 players) 9♣:

River: (5,944, 2 players) 6♥:

Hero shows 9♦:9♠: (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 95%)
BB shows T♥:T♠: (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 5,944


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VorpalF2F
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Snow Job

hit a gutshot twice in a row in 2-7 triple draw, but still take the pot
PokerStars, 2-7 Triple Draw Limit - $0.25/$0.50 - 6 players

UTG: $7.50 (30 bb)
MP: $7.50 (30 bb)
CO: $15.52 (62 bb)
BU: $13.64 (55 bb)
SB: $7.48 (30 bb)
BB (Hero): $7.50 (30 bb)

Deal: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 9♣:3♥:6♠:2♥:4♥:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.50, 2 players fold, SB calls $0.40, Hero 3-bets to $0.75, MP calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25 <<< Yes, I could have stood pat here, but vs two player, I thought it best to try to improve

Draw One: ($2.25) 3♥:6♠:2♥:4♥:Q♣: (3 players)
SB draws 2, BB (Hero) draws 9♣:, MP draws 2
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Draw Two: ($3) 3♥:6♠:2♥:4♥:5♣: (3 players)
SB draws 1, BB (Hero) draws Q♣:, MP draws 1
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50 <<< 11:1 odds against hitting a gutshot. I'll throw the 5, because it is less likely to get another one

Draw Three: ($4.50) 3♥:6♠:2♥:4♥:5♠: (3 players)
SB draws 1, BB (Hero) draws 5♣:, MP draws 1
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, 2 players fold <<< unless you're me

Total pot: $4.50 (Rake: $0.16)
BB (Hero) wins $4.34


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Desperation Equity

it is astounding how often this happens — and not just to me. Against me sometimes, but in those cases, it seems normal
Pacific Poker - 4000/8000 Ante 800 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 4,760 (VPIP: 25.13, PFR: 4.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 190)
BTN: 9,810 (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 85.71, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 3,231
BB: 3,169 (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 54)
UTG: 15,854 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 9)
UTG+1: 4,772 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: 13,708 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 19)

7 players post ante of 800, Hero posts SB 2,431, BB posts BB 2,369

Pre Flop: (pot: 10,400) Hero has Q♦:5♠:

fold, UTG+1 calls 3,972 and is all-in, MP raises to 12,908 and is all-in, fold, fold

Flop: (18,344, 4 players) A♠:4♠:3♥:

Turn: (18,344, 4 players) J♠:

River: (18,344, 4 players) 2♣:

Hero shows Q♦:5♠: (Straight, Five High)

Main Pot [15,076]: (Pre 25%, Flop 26%, Turn 30%)
Side Pot#1 [186]: (Pre 31%, Flop 26%, Turn 30%)

BB shows T♥:8♣: (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [15,076]: (Pre 21%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)

UTG+1 shows K♦:8♦: (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [15,076]: (Pre 13%, Flop 0.5%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [186]: (Pre 17%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#2 [3,082]: (Pre 22%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)

MP shows A♦:K♥: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [15,076]: (Pre 41%, Flop 72%, Turn 70%)
Side Pot#1 [186]: (Pre 52%, Flop 74%, Turn 70%)
Side Pot#2 [3,082]: (Pre 78%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)

Hero wins 15,076
Hero wins 186
MP wins 3,082


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

If Only

Opening hand of a freeroll
I would never join a 4-way preflop all-in with K6o even when it would have flopped a boat
Pacific Poker - 15/30 Ante 3 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 3,000
MP: 3,000
MP+1: 3,000 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 3,000
Hero (BTN): 3,000
SB: 3,000 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 12)
BB: 3,000
UTG: 3,000

8 players post ante of 3, SB posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 69) Hero has K♥:6♣:

UTG raises to 2,997 and is all-in, fold, MP calls 2,997 and is all-in, MP+1 calls 2,997 and is all-in, CO calls 2,997 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (12,057, 4 players) K♦:6♦:6♠:

Turn: (12,057, 4 players) 2♠:

River: (12,057, 4 players) 9♦:

MP shows J♣:5♦: (One Pair, Sixes)

MP+1 shows K♣:Q♦: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)

CO shows A♣:7♣: (One Pair, Sixes)

UTG shows 4♥:2♣: (Two Pair, Sixes and Twos)

MP+1 wins 12,057


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VorpalF2F
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The Daily Quads

overkill, actually. just the pocket pair was enough

Pacific Poker - 25/50 Ante 5 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 6,418 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BTN): 2,862
SB: 2,936 (VPIP: 21.82, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
BB: 2,806 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 2,986 (VPIP: 24.39, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
UTG+1: 3,053 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 2,998 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP+1: 2,941 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 8.93, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 65)

8 players post ante of 5, SB posts SB 25, BB posts BB 50

Pre Flop: (pot: 115) Hero has 5♦:5♥:

fold, UTG+1 calls 50, MP calls 50, fold, CO raises to 100, Hero raises to 2,857 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 2,757

Flop: (5,929, 2 players) 5♣:9♠:7♠:

Turn: (5,929, 2 players) 2♦:

River: (5,929, 2 players) 5♠:

CO shows A♣:3♠: (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 30%, Flop 7%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows 5♦:5♥: (Four of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 70%, Flop 93%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 5,929


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Physics Girl Recovery

I follow several science popularizers on Youtube — Physics Girl was one of my favourites
Suddenly, she just disappeared

She got COVID around the same time I did, however, she ended up spending two years in bed. I was lucky, I guess. It was by far the worst respiratory infection I had ever experienced. I had been fully vaccinated, but at my age, I was at high risk, so Mrs Vorpal and I were still masking in crowded spaces.

I know nothing about how or when Dianna got the disease, but it hit her much, much harder.

Here is an update just released today.


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Boredom Equity

I was bored, and there was nothing I wanted to watch, so I opened PokerStars to see what was happening.
I spotted a $0.10/$0.20 stud hi/lo going, so what the heck...

PokerStars, 7 Stud H/L Limit - $0.10/$0.20 ($0.02 ante) - 7 players

Seat 4: $4.68 (47 bb)
Seat 5: $4.95 (50 bb)
Seat 6: $13.70 (137 bb)
Seat 7: $3.64 (36 bb)
Seat 8: $1.74 (17 bb)
Seat 2: $4.30 (43 bb)
Seat 3 (Hero): $3.74 (37 bb)

Third Street: ($0.14) Hero is in Seat 3
6♣:7♣:2♣: Hero bring-in $0.04____Hero calls $0.06 <<< 3 suited low cards, and great pot odds, so we're in for sure
Xx Xx 2♦: UTG folds
Xx Xx A♠: UTG+1 raises to $0.10
Xx Xx 3♠: MP calls $0.10
Xx Xx 5♥: MP+1 calls $0.10
Xx Xx 9♦: CO calls $0.10
Xx Xx 6♥: BTN folds

Fourth Street: ($0.64) (5 players)
Xx Xx A♠:K♠: UTG+1 bets $0.10
Xx Xx 3♠:Q♣: MP calls $0.10
Xx Xx 5♥:T♠: MP+1 folds
Xx Xx 9♦:8♠: CO folds
6♣:7♣:2♣:5♦: Hero calls $0.10 <<< another low card, all other have cards that make low difficult, so sure, I'll call another small bet

Fifth Street: ($0.94) (3 players)
Xx Xx A♠:K♠:A♦: UTG+1 bets $0.20
Xx Xx 3♠:Q♣:Q♠: MP folds
6♣:7♣:2♣:5♦:5♠: Hero calls $0.20 <<< not too good, but now it's looking like a split pot, unless I can hit a low club

Sixth Street: ($1.34) (2 players)
Xx Xx A♠:K♠:A♦:T♦: UTG+1 bets $0.20
6♣:7♣:2♣:5♦:5♠:K♣: Hero calls $0.20 <<< well there's the club for a K-high flush, now we just need a low card

Seventh Street: ($1.74) (2 players)
Xx Xx A♠:K♠:A♦:T♦: Xx UTG+1 bets $0.20____UTG+1 calls $0.20
6♣:7♣:2♣:5♦:5♠:K♣:3♣: Hero raises to $0.40 <<< and there it is for the scoop

Total pot: $2.54 (Rake: $0.10)

Showdown:
Seat 3 (Hero) shows 6♣:7♣:2♣:5♦:5♠:K♣:3♣: (HI: a flush, King high; LO: 7-6-5-3-2)
Seat 5 mucks 4♠:A♥:A♠:K♠:A♦:T♦:Q♥: (HI: three of a kind, Aces)
Seat 3 (Hero) wins $2.44


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The Day We Met


Fifty-three years ago today, Mrs Vorpal and I met for the first time.

We didn't do anything special today, but 3 years ago, we took a floatplane to an island near Vancouver to have dinner.

Appropriately enough, the aircraft was a De Havilland Beaver — my all time favourite airplane.
Of all the bush planes I flew in[1] during my stint as a geologist, the Beaver was the best.

[1] Passenger only. I didn't fly as a pilot until several years later, and never on floats.


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Drawmaha

I had never heard of this format before
I played a freeroll on a bitcoin site just for the fun of it. (I finished 3rd of 44 entrants)

Drawmaha, also known as Sviten Special, is a split-pot poker variant that combines elements of Omaha and Five Card Draw

Game Structure
• Blinds and Deal: The game begins with forced bets (blinds). Each player is dealt five hole cards face down
• First Betting Round: Players act in turn, choosing to call, raise, or fold
• Flop: Three community cards are dealt face up to the center of the table, followed by a second betting round
The Draw Phase
• Card Exchange: After the flop betting, each player may exchange up to all five of their hole cards (stand pat or draw 1-5)
o If only one card is drawn, the top card of the deck is revealed face up; the player can accept it or take the next card face down
o The number of cards you can draw may be limited (to three) if there are six or more players, to avoid running out of cards
• Draw Action: Players announce how many cards they wish to exchange in turn, with the button acting last
Turn and River
• Turn: The fourth community card is dealt, followed by another betting round
• River: The fifth and final community card is dealt, followed by the final betting round
Showdown and Pot Splitting
• Omaha Hand: Players must use exactly two of their five hole cards and three community cards to make their best Omaha hand
• Draw Hand: Players also use all five of their hole cards to make their best Five Card Draw hand[1][3][4].
• Split Pot: The pot is split equally:
o Half to the best Omaha hand.
o Half to the best Five Card Draw hand.
o The same player can win both halves (scoop) if they have the best hand in both formats
Additional Notes
• Game Format: Most commonly played as Pot Limit, but Fixed Limit games are also available
• Hand Rankings: Standard poker hand rankings apply for both the Omaha and Draw hands
• Unique Feature: The one-card draw “face up or face down” twist adds a layer of strategy and transparency
• Player Cap: To accommodate the draw round, the game typically supports up to five players for full five-card draws; with more players, the draw limit is reduced
Example Hand Flow
1. Players post blinds and receive five cards each.
2. First betting round.
3. Flop (three community cards), second betting round.
4. Draw phase: players exchange 0-5 cards.
5. Turn card, third betting round.
6. River card, final betting round.
7. Showdown: best Omaha and best Five Card Draw hands split the pot.


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Drawmaha

I had never heard of this format before
I played a freeroll on a bitcoin site just for the fun of it. (I finished 3rd of 44 entrants)

So you finally discovered it. :f_grin: I played my first game just about a year ago, and immediately thought that you would probably like that game too.

The strategy mostly seems to be to play solid 5CD ranges, and see if you hit something in the Omaha part. "Suited aces", for example, can offer some nice Omaha potential, so they are a great addition to a good 5CD hand. If you then have reasons to believe that you are ahead in the 5CD pot and hit at least a good draw, if not a made hand in the Omaha pot, it is time to pull the trigger, as you are likely to be at least freerolling for one pot, or ideally already close to scooping.

As it is usually the case in split pot games, you always want to play for the scoop, so there is little use in Omaha-only hands apart from steals. If you get a freeplay with them or have your stealing attempt called, you can always try to hit a decent 5CD hand with them too, of course.

Not yet sure about flush and straight draws. The ability to decline cards after drawing one essentially doubles your odds, and especially with high cards, there may be good Omaha potential too, so they seem to be strong hands. However, I have sometimes read that these hands are often overvalued, though I'm not sure if those articles referred to the same rule set. I also wonder if accepting your first draw could be useful as part of a bluffing tactic, even if you don't hit, as it announces to the rest of the table that you like your hand.

I find it interesting how the Omaha side pot influences your carding decisions, making you keep certain "kickers" and other cards that you would normally discard in standard 5CD. Sometimes, it may even make sense to stand pat with an incomplete hand without it being a snow, because the extra cards to your made hand may offer you good Omaha equity, as either a draw or a made hand. This post shows an example (you need to scroll down a bit to get to the Drawmaha part).


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Originally posted by Harrier88

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Drawmaha

I had never heard of this format before
I played a freeroll on a bitcoin site just for the fun of it. (I finished 3rd of 44 entrants)

So you finally discovered it. :f_grin: I played my first game just about a year ago, and immediately thought that you would probably like that game too.

I almost never play on that site, but I did find that game amusing. I found that a lot of the players were playing for the Omaha pot, and hoping that they could get a 5-Card Draw hand along the way. I did the opposite, and from your linked post, you appear to agree with that strategy


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I found that a lot of the players were playing for the Omaha pot, and hoping that they could get a 5-Card Draw hand along the way. I did the opposite, and from your linked post, you appear to agree with that strategy

I do agree, for the reasons outlined above. You want to play for both parts of the pot, and while a good 5CD hand can often hit the board well for a good Omaha hand, a good Omaha hand is almost worthless in the 5CD pot if it doesn't at least contain a pair.

I think it was David Sklansky who said in the Super System (writing about Stud Hi-Lo) that if you are going for only one half of the pot, your hand must be really good in that direction - and we know how close preflop equities are in Omaha, let alone 5-card Omaha.

Not surprisingly, players in Drawmaha cash games tend to be a lot more competent than the ones seen in freerolls, though.


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Originally posted by Harrier88
Not surprisingly, players in Drawmaha cash games tend to be a lot more competent than the ones seen in freerolls, though.

I had a look today but couldn't find any going.


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I had a look today but couldn't find any going.

Traffic has declined a lot since last year, you often have to start tables yourself now.


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