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NL20 SH JJ stack off on flop?

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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

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NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($25.45)
BB ($20)
UTG ($20.82)
UTG+1 ($21.77)
CO ($29.44)
Hero ($20.20)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♦

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, fold, Hero raises to $2.70, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.90

FLOP ($5.70) 8♣ 2♣ 3♦

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.40, UTG+1 raises to $19.07 (AI), Hero calls $14.10 (AI)

47/30/1.7, check/raise 38 (8)

I would have folded, but looked at c/r stat and did go allin. What do you think there? The sample is not big, but at least few times he did that.


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jachis
Joined: 07.04.2008

I would call easily here, what do you expect him to have? What range do you give him when you see his c/r stat? What range did you give him before looking at the c/r stat when considered folding?


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

as he pushes instead of small raise, I am giving him maybe TT+, 88,22,33.

When I looked at c/r stat, I added flushdraws, 8x, 99 to that range. But still, this is allin, not a small raise, so I think we cannot give him cards like 8x, 99 that often. And not all 8x should be there, K8s and A8, maybe 89s.


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jachis
Joined: 07.04.2008

From my expierience I rarely see the nuts in this spot, most of the times its some draw or some small overpair - 99 TT in this spot.

If you give him a range of 22, 33, 88, 99, TT, and a bunch of FD were basicly flipping so with the dead money I cant find a fold here. As we add some 8x hands were doing even better.

Also dont you expect a 40/30 guy who seems quite aggresive to 4bet at least QQ+?


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

yeah, with QQ+ most likely he is 4beting. But from my experience -where are big pots - overpairs are often behind.


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liguolong
Joined: 18.03.2010

In my opinion he also is unlikely to have 22 or 33 in his range. A lot ppl would fold those preflop.


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Hi,

I would also b/c with JJ. Sometimes you see set that wants to protect his hand, but KK/AA would 4-bet pf, so that leaves only QQ that he may also just c/c flop

Best regards,


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VS a 47-30 I would break my mouse snap calling

He will overvalue 8x and 99+.

He can also jam a bunch of flush draws and sometimes 44-77 putting you on AK (fish seem to love the last part)


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